Whats the best tactics to survive in a martial law USA?

this is another thought that pop up in my head what if America initiated Marshall law and started sending people to death-- i mean fema camps; what state do you think would they go after first and how would you survive? but in my opinion i really hope marshal law does not happen because i live in New York and thats going to be one of the place there going to goand hit hard.

reply to post by Teriq

I'm not getting stars for saying this among this crowd, but I honestly believe it's the best and only approach to get through this until the initial rush of chaos passes and things stablize to figure out who is who and what is what. I can sum my plan up in 2 words.

Submarine Patrol.

Run Silent, Run Deep and attract 0 attention that isn't desired...at least until sides are clear and there is some idea of just what is happening. IF this goes down inside our nation...I don't expect clarity to be something we have for quite some time in the early stages.

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Dang.....now you made me want to start building a mini-sub in the backyard.

Not a bad idea at all.....if you can get a sub.

My theory is get as far from populated areas as possible. Martial law can mean a lot of different things though. Id say play it by ear but draw as little attention as possible and dont be in large groups. Know your area well and try to stay under cover as much as possible. You may actually be in an ok area. You have access to huge areas the government isnt going to have on their high priority list : the abandoned subway tunnels and the sewer system. Might be time to do some exploring and make some alternative lifestyle friends.

Originally posted by Teriq
this is another thought that pop up in my head what if America initiated Marshall law and started sending people to death-- i mean fema camps; what state do you think would they go after first and how would you survive? but in my opinion i really hope marshal law does not happen because i live in New York and thats going to be one of the place there going to goand hit hard.

Marshall law? No worries. Who cares what "Marshall" says? Why should I care? Who is he?
Martial law, now that worries me.

The best thing to do is leave.

If that is not possible, seek shelter in the most remote wilderness you can and live off the land. No one will ever find you again.

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I saw a documentary about a decade ago concerning the interviewing of the last survivors of the Death Camps.

They were asked, "What do you think contributed to you surviving when others didn't".

Remarkably, they all answered, "I tried to blend in, not cause trouble, gave no eye contact which could be considered a sign of aggression or resistance and remained under the radar."

Almost everyone of them said this and that piece of advice struck a chord in me.

The Japanese have a saying, the nail that sticks up the highest gets pounded the hardest.

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Sadly...adapting the look, and training styles and as much insider....small oddities you can about fed/local police.
When they come nocky nockin......throw a few things around make it look like fully searched....and escort wife and kids...and claim "all clear".....
Little further down the road....bail...with wife and kids...
moral is....study ones adversaries...very very well.....

Well enough to be one....even if only a short acting carreer

Originally posted by Ixtab
The best thing to do is leave.

If that is not possible, seek shelter in the most remote wilderness you can and live off the land. No one will ever find you again.

Err.. There is a good reason that so many who have wandered into the deep timber are never found. They became dinner or a health casualty before they got good and comfy in their new surroundings. I'd sure hope anyone taking this route puts serious effort..not just google time...into learning wilderness survival. Raw nature could be a real ugly place without it. I'll bet you know what you're doing personally, since this was your first thought. Imagine the overgrown kid at Burger King or Wal-Mart throwing on the neat new expedition backpack they got and walking away from their car into real back country.

I'd give them a week.... If they came with enough to just hide somewhere and exhaust their personal supplies...perhaps a month.

reply to post by Wrabbit2000
A month? You are generous. I would say it depends on what time American Idol comes on and they realize that their I-Pad cannot pick up any signal before they voluntarily return to their slavery.

No option other than a 1 word response... Leave
well...leave just before it comes to that. OK...that was more than 1 word...but if you don't like it...

The radar, stay under it. Don't attract attention to yourself. Don't tell anyone but close family and even closer friends your plans. Follow the rules and keep your nose clean. Don't run around in fatigues.

Edit: Oh. What those guys and gals up thread said.

Before the death camps they need an excuse to get people scared enough to comply. They will cause a mass disruption in food supply, based on a third party excuse (false flag, plague, pick one) just long enough to make people very uncomfortable, then offer "work" and other services if you tell us were the "Jews" are.

My guess is it will be tough, but they will have people turn in others for food or fuel stipends to reduce the populations to controllable numbers. They will go after political opponents first, then anyone possessing weapons, gold, or anything else of value. Finally, round up and exterminate everyone who doesn't want to serve the beloved leader.

Originally posted by eywadevotee
Before the death camps they need an excuse to get people scared enough to comply. They will cause a mass disruption in food supply, based on a third party excuse (false flag, plague, pick one) just long enough to make people very uncomfortable, then offer "work" and other services if you tell us were the "Jews" are.

My guess is it will be tough, but they will have people turn in others for food or fuel stipends to reduce the populations to controllable numbers. They will go after political opponents first, then anyone possessing weapons, gold, or anything else of value. Finally, round up and exterminate everyone who doesn't want to serve the beloved leader.

You don't think that this is what the coming economic collapse was engineered for?

I have several books on urban survival in hard times to come and some stuff in it says.

-- Keep a hidden stock pile but make sure it is really well hidden because if it is found after Martial Law is declared and you were asked to surrender goods, you may be executed for holding back. (Bury your stuff in sealed plastic containers or within walls).

-- DO NOT TELL ANYONE what you have. Don't brag. If and when times get bad, everybody will be looking out for their own self interest. Don't flaunt your goods to ANYONE.

-- Stock pile now. If you bring home say eight cans of beans or Corn beef Hash and a bottle of aspirin and box of gauge every time you shop, nobody will notice. Stock pile little by little. That way doing it a little at a time, just a few extra cans and bags of beans and rice will not hurt your budget vs. going out all hog wild which again is noticeable.

-- Dog food as well as cat food have long shelf lives............yes gross but I tasted (yes I taste anything once before I give it to my Lucy) and Pedigree Hunky Chunks in a can does not taste bad - it's better stuff than 3/4 of the world eats and it's protein. Not saying I now eat it but I did take a finger dip and the stuff is not bad - Dinty Moore and Hormel tastes worse (IMO).

-- If possible, buy some land away from the heavily populated areas but than the problem of getting to them may not be easy. Get a bike and ride it. That may be your only form of transportation and it can go between cars and off road. Its also good exercise.

-- FEMA, Just got done reading Ashfall by Mike Mullin. Pretty good. If we are herded to FEMA Camps, rest assure Fido and Fluffy will not be allowed in and probably killed

I am not going to any FEMA Camp - I trust my dog more than most humans..........sorry but I've had better experiences in my 59 years of life with four legged vs two legged animals.

Where my dog goes, I go......................and I will fight to the death if anyone tries to harm her, she's been through enough sorrow in her six of seven years (puppy mill breeder / six hours away from being gassed and knows it). No, ain't giving up my dog to be with a bunch of back stabbing humans.

Some good books to read follow:

*** Urban Survival Guide by David Morris
*** The Art of Urban Survival by Stefan H. Verstappen
*** search.4shared.com... (Several articles you can download)
*** www.infiniteunknown.net... (39 page download)

Start preparing now. Little by little. Even my husband who thinks I am a "conspiracy nut" has a bob in his closet I noticed.

Another good book to get and highly recommended is "Where There Is No Doctor" by Jane Maxwell, David Werner and Carol Thuman Paperback: 446 pages
Publisher: Hesperian Foundation; Revised edition (May 25, 1992).

Of importance, you should already have a nice size first aid kit and if you have a dog or cat have a book on dog/cat vet care.

my vet offered free doggie/kitty CPR classes.

I've also been in nursing and done CPR so I am well acquainted with Code Blues..........Learn the ABC of CPR.

Get to know your neighbors but than again......................learn to not brag or talk about what you have.

The books I mentioned are worth the money - buy them and read them now.

There are lots of sites to GoodSearch (vs Google) a penny for every search and when you shop on line your charity going through GoodSearch nets your choice charity a penny.

I'm 59 and things have changed so drastically in America, all over the planet in just the last 40 years it's not funny.

Maybe tomorrow will be better, maybe worse, but storing a little extra away is never a bad idea.

One last thought, try to remain on very good terms with your neighbors..............you may need their good will later on.

Safe journey to us all.

My Lucy.

If the SHTF dogs and cats will be considered a nuisance according to our government...............your beloved companion (furbaby) will have even less rights than you.

My advice is seclusion. Just keep in mind that the number one most important thing is clean fresh water. You cannot survive without it. I live in Michigan so I have many secluded places to go with many fresh water supplies.

People will take you more seriously if you educate yourself and say "Martial Law" (martial pertaining to military and derived from Mars, the god of war) rather than "Marshall Law".....

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I was reading somewhere that society is just nine meals away from anarchy or three days of food .... while across the pond ....

"MI5’s maxim is that society is 'four meals away from anarchy'. In other words, the security agency believes that Britain could be quickly reduced to large-scale disorder, including looting and rioting in the event of a catastrophe that stops the supply of food..."

www.backwoodssurvivalblog.com... meals-away-from-anarchy.html

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We're almost neighbors and I live near a real big fresh water lake.

Seclusion is good but with seclusion one must really know how to remain hidden and defend oneself.

If you plan to be in a rural area, make darn sure you take lessons in firearms (I have).

Seclusion and being able to blend into the area around you is good advice.

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Read the "Foxfire" series of books ... they contain much valuable information which was almost lost ......