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FEMA Friends Will Be Gone "For Some Time"

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posted on Feb, 19 2012 @ 04:50 AM
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The NMSZ appears to be about 30 years overdue for a magnitude 6.3 quake because the last quake of this size occurred 100 hundred years ago at Charleston, Missouri, on Oct. 31, 1895 (it was a magnitude 6.7). A magnitude 6.3 quake near Lepanto, Arkansas, on Jan. 5, 1843, was the next prior earthquake of this magnitude. About 75 percent of the estimated recurrence time for a magnitude 7.6 earthquake has elapsed since the last quake of this size occurred in 1812.

The probability of a repeat of the 1881-12 (magnitude 7.5-8.0) earthquake is 7-10%

The 1811-1812 New Madrid earthquakes destroyed most or all of the simple buildings in New Madrid and Little Prairie (Caruthersville), the only two towns in the area at the time. The simple, single story log buildings were in fact a very earthquake resistant type of construction. The land in a huge area (about 5,500 square miles or about 3.5 million acres) was also damaged or destroyed by landslides, fissures, sandblows, lateral spreads, subsidence, submergence and uplift. Much of this land became unusable for the subsistence type agriculture of that day. Buildings in St. Louis, 150 miles or more to the north, were slightly damaged. The damage mostly consisted of broken or collapsed stone chimneys and broken stone buildings, a type of unreinforced masonry construction that is especially susceptible to earthquake damage.

Source : www.dnr.mo.gov...

So if we some how get one as bad as the 1800s quake , unless you are with in 150 miles of the quake , you wont get any damage or if you do it will be light.

This quake if it is a huge one of the century , wont destroy America , the ones that need to worry are the people within 50 miles of the quake area.

I live 250 miles almost from the epicenter of the quake. So i am some what close.

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A 1990 Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) report estimates damage and injuries in St. Louis from a 7.6 magnitude NMSZ earthquake to be $2.8 billion, 260 deaths and 1,060 serious injuries. A 1985 FEMA report makes estimates for Poplar Bluff for the same earthquake of $693 million in damages, 1 death if the quake occurs at night or 17 deaths if it occurs during the day (the difference being 15 deaths at schools during the day when schools are in session).

A 1991 Missouri State Emergency Management Agency (SEMA) and FEMA report estimates for a 7.6 magnitude NMSZ earthquake the Bootheel counties of Mississippi, New Madrid and Pemiscot would have 0.2 percent to 2 percent of their population killed, 1 percent to 10 percent of their population seriously injured, 10 percent of their buildings collapsed and 30 percent of their buildings receiving severe structural damage. For Scott, Stoddard and Dunklin counties the percentage estimates are 0.1 percent to 1 percent killed, 0.5 percent to 5 percent seriously injured, 5 percent of structures collapsed and 20 percent with severe structural damage. For Butler, Bollinger, Cape Girardeau, Perry, St. Louis (including the City), Lincoln, Pike, Marion and Lewis Counties the estimates are 0.02 percent to 0.2 percent killed, 0.1 percent to 1 percent seriously injured, 1 percent building collapses and 10 percent with severe structural damage.

Same source.



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posted on Feb, 19 2012 @ 08:00 AM
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Originally posted by Vinny5036
I have two friends who both work for FEMA here in Illinois. I periodically touch base with them to see what's going on in the state and in the nation. These guys have worked all over from 9/11 to Katrina to Joplin tornadoes this past year. Both of these guys I have know for about 9 years now and have always been on the up and up with me.
In past meetings they've always said that if they deemed it necessary, no matter what, they would care enough to tell their closest friends and family if something was coming down the pipe.
Well, yesterday I stopped by to chat for a bit while out and about. I seriously don't want to give too many clues to whom they may be. There are things I could mention that if the right person where to pick up on this, they would be found without a doubt. In any case, we were standing in the kitchen shooting the bull and I asked them " don't you guys get enough of each other at work that you hang out when your home too..?" They told me they were leaving tonight for "some time" down to the Illinois-Missouri-Tennessee area. I asked them what was going on and was told that if what happens that they think is going to happen, it's going to be a big quagmire. They said that they've been training for many months on the fault zone of New Madrid and that it could happen sooner than later.
I got this big lump in my throat. "So a big earthquake possibly?" He said if this thing "breaks loose" like they've predicted, it will bring massive casualties to big cities in the midwest including Chicago, St. Louis, Memphis, Louisville, etc. Natural gas pipelines will rupture causing uncontrolled fires along with several nuke plants taking massive damage as well. They said that the massive chaos could be enough to declare a Marshal Law situation. Many communications will be down so the panic of not knowing whats going on will cause widespread looting and disorder. The power grid will certainly be affected as well.
This is my first thread, so please folks, what do you think about this?? I trust these guys 110% because they're very good friends and they're family men. They really don't even like the government that they work for.
I left there very frightened and tense. I have no reason to believe ever that they would make this up. They're straight up people, they just work for the wrong side.
Does anyone think there is any validity to the subject besides myself? Any threads lately backing what they're claiming??
Please, go easy on me, I'm not a fear mongerer, just a father and a husband who cares about his family and the people that surround me.
so when are they going to be where the new Madrid is??



posted on Feb, 19 2012 @ 10:08 AM
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As of 16:00 gmt feb 19 the USGS quake map shows nothing over 1. for the entire new madrid region.
On the West coast, the San Andreas is hopping.



posted on Feb, 19 2012 @ 03:30 PM
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Originally posted by new_here

Originally posted by Furbs

Originally posted by antar
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Like all bureaucracy, each individuals work would be compartmentalized, but you know that.


Regardless of the level of bureaucracy that exists, leaks in Top Secret clearance are not taken lightly. I hope that for the sake of the OP that his friends were having a good time with him and not making him an accomplice to Treason by leaking Top Secret information.


So, giving advanced warning about an impending natural disaster is... treason???
Seems to me, that a government agency with-holding said information from the populous is treason.

Think about it. Think about Life, Liberty and The Pursuit of Happiness, man.


Seems to me that mere the fact that the OP is still posting leads credence to the idea that OP's buddies are full of it.. or the OP is pulling your legs.

Whichever you want to believe.



posted on Feb, 19 2012 @ 03:52 PM
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Regardless of the level of bureaucracy that exists, leaks in Top Secret clearance are not taken lightly. I hope that for the sake of the OP that his friends were having a good time with him and not making him an accomplice to Treason by leaking Top Secret information.

That is such bull.

If your government thinks that telling people about an incoming big quake in the New Madrid area is treason, then your government is treasonous, not the people leaking the info.



posted on Feb, 19 2012 @ 03:52 PM
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i'm not saying this is related in any way to this thread. my military friend gave me somewhat of a warning a couple months ago. they couldn't go into detail unless we were face to face. but, what they did tell me was to: "not believe what you read/see in the mainstream media" (duh, check.). "it's gonna be something that will change our lives (i'm guessing here in the USA) forever." "it's gonna happen before the end of this year."

i asked what i could do to prepare and they said, "stock up on canned goods."

i should be seeing them before this supposed "event" happens, so, i will gladly share any info to the ATS community since i've gotten so much information from this site myself.



posted on Feb, 19 2012 @ 03:56 PM
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Originally posted by darkstar57
As of 16:00 gmt feb 19 the USGS quake map shows nothing over 1. for the entire new madrid region.
On the West coast, the San Andreas is hopping.


Woudn't that be a bad thing? Like its stuck and trying to break, but is being pressured not to? Doesn't this mean that there could be a major quake on the way? The san andreas hopping is continually releasing pressure as the new madrid isn't? But Im not expert just trying to think logically.



posted on Feb, 19 2012 @ 04:37 PM
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Originally posted by FugitiveSoul
Have you ever looked at a map of the New Madrid Fault Affected Area...



...and compared it to a map of the US East Coast Nuclear Power Plants?



There's no wonder why the "elite" chose Colorado as their safe haven.

Should this situation actually go down, there will be a goodly number of people fighting to head out to sea, or out of the affected area via heading West. Those heading west are going to have an exceptionally tough time trying to navigate the damaged terrain, the floods, the radiation, the traffic, and just the distance in general.



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Great visual, but wouldn't a change in wind just take out the rest?



posted on Feb, 19 2012 @ 04:39 PM
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Not if your protected by miles of rock.



posted on Feb, 19 2012 @ 04:54 PM
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I hold steadfast to a surreal dream I had on several occasions several years ago. In the dream I saw the great lakes open up and flood the entire Midwest. This is an event compounded by new madras.



posted on Feb, 19 2012 @ 04:57 PM
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I was also rethinking my family escape routes upon seeing this and considering the prevailing winds had to really make a secondary escape route. As suggested out to sea could be one great idea for the short term, but if that is not possible somewhere near Wyoming might not be such a bad idea either.



posted on Feb, 19 2012 @ 05:10 PM
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remember, those red circles on the radiation map are for iodine only. there are way scarier monsters that can travel through the air/wind via jet stream with way longer half lives.



posted on Feb, 19 2012 @ 05:12 PM
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If HAARP can activate earthquakes, which we know they can, and they do so on the New Madrid fault, will that also activate the volcano?



posted on Feb, 19 2012 @ 05:15 PM
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This seems to be connected imho.

The word logistics again springs forth on the people being called in, and I am not talking about logistics training, this is calling in the professionals it seems...



posted on 19-2-2012 @ 03:18 PM
Not really sure what is going on, however the family I am currently living with, (the father) works for the FBI He has shared that he is apart of a disaster crew that plots things out, draws building plans for a lot of disasters like Oklahoma City Bombing, and 9/11, He was just told he had to pack his things for a flight tomorrow morning early, to an undisclosed location. Not sure where he is going or what he is doing. If I hear anything else I will let you know here on this thread. Has anyone heard of any sort of disaster happening? he usually goes After the disaster, which is why I wasn't sure.


www.abovetopsecret.com...

My heart is racing every time I come on to ATS in the past couple days, seems like I am looking for validation of something eminent in the doom and gloom department. Is this 'it'? I do not know, but it sure seems to be keeping me shaky about things. Remember folks we heard it here first. I for one am NOT prepared for anything really huge...



posted on Feb, 19 2012 @ 05:19 PM
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This is an important piece of this puzzle. Please check into it and get back to us, it could be happening faster than we know. Sheeze should I go out and stock up on some yucky canned goods? I think I might. My main concern is water. It is just so unfair for tptb to know stuff and not share that info with citizens.



posted on Feb, 19 2012 @ 05:34 PM
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Here is the thing, I am in Atlantic Canada. All the information posted so far is regarding the USA, where do I search to find out how something like this would affect us? Or do I open a bed and breakfast for you all? (Just trying to lighten things up a bit).



posted on Feb, 19 2012 @ 06:58 PM
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You know in a worst case scenario I doubt the ordinary American will be able to cross borders, especially in a Martial Law situation.

Do you know how you are affected by the faultlines?



posted on Feb, 19 2012 @ 07:03 PM
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Methinks that are too many people here on ATS that keep forgetting to take their PROZAC, or aren't taking enough!


Seriously...every year DOOM & GLOOM and 99% of the time nothing predicted ever happens.

Worrying about the unknown ain't going to help in the slightest, but it sure can affect how you FEEL, especially if you are OBSESSING over every negative report or prediction.

Not saying that you shouldn't be prudent and have an emergency kit always on hand, as that's just good sense as disasters DO happen.

Let's have some more POSITIVE threads and enjoy each day we have (left) on this amazing planet!



posted on Feb, 19 2012 @ 07:09 PM
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Some people choose to be forewarned and forearmed.
Nobody is forcing anyone to read this thread, be concerned about quakes, or encouraging anyone to be scared.

But, if you want happy news....
www.happynews.com...



posted on Feb, 19 2012 @ 07:15 PM
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Some people choose to be forewarned and forearmed.

Agreed


Nobody is forcing anyone to read this thread
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Agreed


be concerned about quakes or encouraging anyone to be scared.

Can't agree with you there as there are many threads and posters that are doing exactly that

And I did say that there's nothing wrong with being prepared, just don't become 'obsessed' with the whole imminent disaster thing.



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