They Know something?Why so many disaster simulation drills!

You ever seen a dog chasing his own tail?
He will basically run in a continuous circle, while going absolutely nowhere......

Originally posted by diamondsmith

[color=FFD970]Tsunami warning doesn't help too much as we've seen the last one and other disasters cannot be prevented or avoided anyway.

Originally posted by DJW001

[color=91FFD3]Exactly. So what is the point of this thread

Originally posted by diamondsmith

[color=FFD970]I try to figure out what is the real reason behind those drills.

[color=91FFD3]Maybe, just maybe, the real reason could be, because....

Originally posted by diamondsmith

[color=FFD970]......Tsunami warning doesn't help too much as we've seen the last one and other disasters cannot be prevented or avoided anyway.

It's not complicated. It's actually quite simple. If a warning may not give enough time, then a lil bit of preparation might just come in handy.



[color=FF9669]Chaos Vs. Order
Which do you prefer?


Depending on the circumstance, chaos can be amusing, but order is a necessity.

reply to post by BrokenCircles

Depending on the circumstance, chaos can be amusing, but order is necessity.

Not too much order lately in still normal conditions,chaos is not amusing as we have seen last year and necessity as social order..I think the try but they must try harder.

reply to post by diamondsmith

chaos is not amusing

Here, let me help you out:



Maybe if you watch the rest of the movie you'll stop worrying about things so much.

reply to post by DJW001


LOVE that movie! proof that chaos CAN be funny!

Here is your dose of reality.

So many drills happen this time of year because agencies have to get their budgets, and the mandates for that year, around August, and plan based on what they are required to do. So you get your budget, you plan, because planning with agencies from the Feds to the counties takes a lot of work, then they tend to have drills starting this time of year. Then they have to spend the next few months submit the reports. Its all about timing.

You will see the same for next year, and the year after.

Why don't they tell the people? Because the population isn't involved. Just like when they train firefighters, they don't rescue real people, LOL. You rescue a dummy from a fake building.

These drills do more like test communications, equipment,and etas. Nothing the public is involved with.

As for what they test for, sometimes its a general cover all scenario, or its specific. Its up to the area.
But I certainly hope Iowa isn't wasting time testing for a tsunami.

They tend to test for what they would be involved with. For example, transportation functions would test for a chemical derailment.

reply to post by DJW001
Interesting,but I don't get the point,what should I understand that a crowded room is related to the disaster that we may facing?Maybe you are right there will be few corners to live around the world and very crowded.

Originally posted by diamondsmith

Not too much order lately in still [color=D4FFB3]normal conditions,chaos is not amusing as we have seen last year and necessity as social order..I think the try but they must try harder.

You are trying too hard, to find something that is not there. Throughout this thread, you have answered many of your own questions, and you don't even realize it.

Again here, with the [color=D4FFB3]normal conditions. You seem to be concerned, and worried, as to why people would run drills for possible catastrophic events, during [color=D4FFB3]normal conditions. Would you prefer that they wait until after things get more whacked out?

Is there any better time to run such a drill, other than during [color=D4FFB3]normal conditions??




P.S.
Amusement is a matter of personal opinion. I mentioned no possible scenarios.
For example: I have found amusement by attempting to comprehend your chaotic way of thinking.

ie. Chaos can be amusing, at times.

If you want disaster porn...take your pick.
www.exitmundi.nl...

reply to post by BrokenCircles

normal conditions

I refer to "normal conditions" as social order which has began to disappear.

reply to post by nixie_nox

So many drills happen this time of year because agencies have to get their budgets, and the mandates for that year, around August, and plan based on what they are required to do.

I understand that thank you but maybe this year will be different.

reply to post by diamondsmith

Interesting,but I don't get the point,what should I understand that a crowded room is related to the disaster that we may facing?Maybe you are right there will be few corners to live around the world and very crowded.

It's a metaphor. When Groucho sees that the situation is getting out of control, he not only accepts its inevitability, he actually embraces it! Of course, mostly it's just funny because chaos is funny if no-one gets hurt. Hmmm... maybe you should look up "sense of humor" somewhere.

an organized disaster drill... they keep trying to get it right, the government & military get paid to run these scenarios... and a boat load of analysts have to break down all the parts in reaction to a hypothetical event


if the drills were actually productive, then there would be a very active and almost intrusive civil defense program that would involve citizens in real-time exercises

so--- the disaster drills are for Show and the CYA factor that the leaders' must employ so as to retire in comfort

reply to post by diamondsmith


Honey, its the same thing every year. Yes this may be different because they are drilling for a potential disaster scenario. Just like firefighters train for a bad fire. They don't want one, but they need to know how to handle one.

All the events since 911 have made Emergency Services a very hot field to be in. And most of these are a result of mandates that came out of Homeland Security after 911.

You know who does the most planning? Your county. And your police and fire agency and you local health department are all involved. Most plan for pandemics, then they test for other scenarios such as a fukishima, and the rest is local. If your on the east coast, you will see a lot of hurricane drills. If you are on the west, then earthquake drills.
And the reason for the drills every year? To tweak out something that was learned in a previous disaster (Joplin, Irene, 2011 in general) but the conditions will be change. For example, San Francisco may drill for an earthquake, but the supervising agencies may suddenly switch things up on them and take out the Golden gate bridge and say: now what.

If you are in the midwest, then its tornadoes.

You will actually see the drills cut back because of the massive amounts of cuts from Homeland Security, and FEMA.

Even with all the drilling, no one is 100% prepared. The emergency service workers at Joplin are booked for the next two years speaking to emergency service workers all across the country on what actually worked and what didn't.
What happened in Joplin was heartbrake, but in the end may save more lives then were killed.

Originally posted by St Udio
an organized disaster drill... they keep trying to get it right, the government & military get paid to run these scenarios... and a boat load of analysts have to break down all the parts in reaction to a hypothetical event


if the drills were actually productive, then there would be a very active and almost intrusive civil defense program that would involve citizens in real-time exercises

so--- the disaster drills are for Show and the CYA factor that the leaders' must employ so as to retire in comfort

How would you exactly drill a bunch of panicked sheep?

reply to post by St Udio

so--- the disaster drills are for Show and the CYA factor that the leaders' must employ so as to retire in comfort

Yes show what we do without the show,I try to believe this is the only reason,anyway the most important thing is that so far we have not an event...until now.

reply to post by nixie_nox

Even with all the drilling, no one is 100% prepared.

Maybe not even 10 percent.Depending on the event.

reply to post by LazloFarnsworth

plot and a camp they are planning to put you and your family in. That ...in your case...may not be such a bad idea.

Oh sorry,my bad,I just saw a white van outside my house,what do now...but wait I just remembered ...it's my van.

reply to post by DJW001

maybe you should look up "sense of humor" somewhere.

I have a lot.People's lives are more important and they deserve to know some things.

reply to post by diamondsmith


No, it depends on your state. Pretty much at this point states have an idea of what they are up against. No use drilling for something that will barely happen.Like I said, Iowa or Nebraska doesn't need to worry about a tsunami.
Trust me, the professionals prepare for situations you haven't thought of.

What you SHOULD be worried about is NOT what they are drilling for, but how well they are doing.
And if they don't do well, they have funding ripped away.

All your state scores are published, as part of the tranparency under the Obama adminstration you all like to pretend doesn't exist. Because these weren't reported before.

If you have trouble sleeping, I suggest you read the whole thing.

And if you live in Salt Lake City, I would be really concerned....

www.cdc.gov...

reply to post by nixie_nox

No, it depends on your state.

Please don't ask,but what is Fukushima?