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Chemtrail spraying in broad daylight for everyone to see!

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posted on Feb, 24 2012 @ 09:15 AM
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I will bring you up to speed.
The chemtrail conspiracy discussion on ATS, like the 911 conspiracy, has a regular group of avatars that love nothing better than to respond to chemtrail posts and threads. There are roughly two camps of "regulars". One camp, the "believers that there is good evidence of a conspiracy", and the other camp, the "there is no evidence whatsoever of a conspiracy ".
This second camp is much more persistent than the first camp. They are more regular, more vocal, hanging around daily for years, and not giving any credence whatsoever to anything brought as "evidence of a conspiracy" by the first camp. Any personal observations that the atmosphere is different are countered with "there is no difference", as if they have the final word.
Now, consider that the atmosphere IS different.
ENASA satellite finds Earth's clouds are getting lower.

What does this have to do with chemtrails? Perhaps nothing. Perhaps everything. The point is, camp one will attempt to investigate while camp two will say there is nothing to investigate.

Further, consider the fact that there have been many high level international meetings about global warming, and how to combat this supposed threat. Now, the avatars against the chemtrail conspiracy never seem to discuss global warming, whether it is happening or not, or whether anything should be done. They simply stick to the position that everything that is going on in the atmosphere is normal...PROVE otherwise.
Pretty narrow view of the world, IMO.
But, the fact is, there has been very large amounts of money spent on how to combat global warming. The deniers of global weather modification aka "chemtrail spraying", will say it is all just talk about what might be done, not what IS being done. But,

“In recent years there has been a decline in the support for weather modification research, and a tendency to move directly into operational projects.” ~World Meteorological Organization, 2007

Atmospheric Geoengineering
This is a direct dispute of the position of the aforementioned "narrow" camp of denialists.

But, why would the NGO's or governments that are behind this want to keep it secret? Why would they go out of their way to deny it?
Those are good questions, and this is the reason for the chemtrail conspiracy threads. We want the answers, while the other camp pretends they have them.
Read the following website carefully.

The Holmestead

As for answering the OP....

I would suggest studying on the subject of weather, namely highs and lows and how air moves to fully understand the times of spraying. I note, it is not just global warming we are combating here, we are also combating UV Summer. Global warming could effectively be treated by applications during the night, when the warm air rises. However the UV needs to be treated during the day. This is why on some days one finds that more spraying is done during the day. The UV indexes are monitored constantly for local areas. If the problem were simply cooling the earth, rockets would have been used to suspend particles in the high atmosphere. However the delicate nature of the Ozone Layer precludes this method of shielding. More on this in the answer to Question 6.



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posted on Feb, 24 2012 @ 10:08 AM
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Originally posted by SurrealisticPillow
Now, consider that the atmosphere IS different.
ENASA satellite finds Earth's clouds are getting lower.

What does this have to do with chemtrails? Perhaps nothing. Perhaps everything. The point is, camp one will attempt to investigate while camp two will say there is nothing to investigate.


I feel it was somewhat more like the opposite.

Camp one (believers) will accept this simple misleading characterization of a situation ("the atmosphere IS different") as evidence of a covert spraying program, WITHOUT any investigation.

Camp two (skeptics) actually DID investigate, and found it was only a 1% variation over ten years, mostly due to fewer high altitude clouds being formed, it's only based on ten years of data (as ENSA has only been up ten years), so there's no way of knowing if it's a trend, or a cycle, or just normal variation. It's a very small change within a system that naturally shows large variability, and seems largely due to a single (still very small) drop in 2008, from which the clouds bounced back.

Here's the actual data:



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posted on Feb, 24 2012 @ 10:12 AM
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Camp one (believers) will accept this simple misleading characterization of a situation ("the atmosphere IS different") as evidence of a covert spraying program, WITHOUT any investigation.

Who, in camp one, used this as evidence of a covert spraying program?
You see, you engage in lies to smear your imagined (or real) opponents. This reveals your true nature, and calls into question your motivation for being here.



posted on Feb, 24 2012 @ 11:16 AM
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Originally posted by SurrealisticPillow
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Camp one (believers) will accept this simple misleading characterization of a situation ("the atmosphere IS different") as evidence of a covert spraying program, WITHOUT any investigation.

Who, in camp one, used this as evidence of a covert spraying program?
You see, you engage in lies to smear your imagined (or real) opponents. This reveals your true nature, and calls into question your motivation for being here.


Afterthought did:
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Come on, Mr. Davies. I think we both know why the clouds are floating closer to Earth.

They simply need to admit that they are manufacturing clouds to curb this so called global warming. When are they going to admit it? Are they simply going to keep playing dumb? We already know about NASA's cloud machine and many people's eyes are reporting how CONtrails dissipate after they're released. We also know that there is technology in the works to create clouds that will reflect the sunlight back into space. We also know that they want to manufacture crops that are more reflective so that they will also reflect the sunlight. We know that they want to create a dimming effect over the Earth.

When are you going to admit it, folks? Just come on out and say that you're screwing with our atmosphere.


But the point was more about people accepting the mischaracterization without question or investigation.




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