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“consolidations and mergers have resulted in a situation in which nearly 18 percent of all hospitals and 20 percent of all hospital beds in health systems nationwide are owned or controlled by the Catholic Church. In some isolated areas, the only hospitals available are Catholic-run.”
“Catholic churches also claim the right to make decisions based on religious conviction, even when employees are not Catholic, and when a large share of their salaries are paid for by tax dollars that flow through broad-based medical programs such as Medicare and Medicaid.”
In a perfect world, patients would have full knowledge of whether the system they choose is compatible with their religious experience and beliefs. But in practice, this doesn't happen. Hospitals and care providers aren't required to disclose anything about their religious preferences, and so patients and families have to make decisions, often in traumatic or even life-or-death situations, without knowing anything about which religious preferences will guide their care
The real question of authority here is what is ethical and moral on the behalf of the patient . Jehovah witnesses don't believe in blood transfusions...would it be ethical to grant These churches an exemption from covering this procedure on religious grounds? Of course not. Is it the patients choice to refuse the procedure ; absolutely. Now let's take a patient with auto-immune disease with high risk of pre-clampsia that could result in a life threatening pregnancy : is it ethical to deny coverage for contraceptive ..no I believe that it is highly unethical and immoral to practice medicine that is not in the best interest of patients , due to unproven claims outside the realm of evidence based practice. The church does not have the ultimate authority to make outlandish claims and apply them to medical practices when it results in patient harm. I believe in the separation of church and state , I do, but when the church takes decisions out of the hands of individuals an appoints itself the moral authority on what is good for the majority even though it is harmful ...I don't believe anyone can rationally defend that.
Originally posted by usernamehere
I see no difference between church and state they each are mechanism of control.
EDIT: Second line and a bit of fill.
I would much rather someone who has at least studied some sort of spiritual texts and is able to recognise a human being not a wallet to make judgements on my behalf than someone who grew with nothing more than a capitalist view and the misnomer of "Survival of the fittest" But then again I would not be so quick to hand responsibility to another something more should do.edit on 16-2-2012 by usernamehere because: (no reason given)
The First Amendment (Amendment I) to the United States Constitution is part of the Bill of Rights. The amendment prohibits the making of any law respecting an establishment of religion, impeding the free exercise of religion, abridging the freedom of speech, infringing on the freedom of the press, interfering with the right to peaceably assemble or prohibiting the petitioning for a governmental redress of grievances.
Originally posted by paleorchid13
reply to post by beezzer
Does a Hospital qualify as a religious institution or more likely ..should it? I see that as a conflict of interest.
Originally posted by paleorchid13
reply to post by beezzer
Does a Hospital qualify as a religious institution or more likely ..should it? I see that as a conflict of interest.
Originally posted by paleorchid13
reply to post by beezzer
I understand that , but I am talking about role reversal here ; the Catholic Church effecting policy and the concerns of them running healthcare facilities with the "right" of prejudice so to speak. The last part is more of a social question and how this effects people.
The church is one thing. But does a hospital qualify as a religious institution?
edit on 16-2-2012 by paleorchid13 because: (no reason given)edit on 16-2-2012 by paleorchid13 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by paleorchid13
reply to post by beezzer
Does a Hospital qualify as a religious institution or more likely ..should it? I see that as a conflict of interest.