Sao Tome das Letras Brazil, Mysterious, Un-explored, Man made tunnels, page 2


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reply posted on 2-3-2012 @ 11:29 PM by MrsBlonde
the world is full of creepy stories about mines

here's one of the best ones not as good as this Brazilian one I have to say but here goes
I was reading about the Daytolov Pas incident and decided to find out about the area
and I found this
Queen of the Copper Mountain

she wears a dress made out of green stone like malachite and inhabits some kind of subterranean world in the Ural mountains in the Region of Daytolov Pass. She is a lizard or a snake somehow, and has a weird mind control ability. and has untold treasures like gems and minerals.She tried to marry a hapless miner who encountered her there around the 30s or late 20s I think, anyway his description of her is terrifying


reply posted on 6-10-2012 @ 11:03 AM by optimus fett
Hi guys and girls, sorry for not posting for a while...real life has had to take preference over the last few months but I have managed to put a fair bit of effort in to a few 'areas' of the original post.

A few facts for you!

'As the crow flys' the distance between Sao Tome das Letras and Machu Picchu (one of the 'supposed' destinations of the tunnel; according to the story of the restaurant owner) is 1905 miles (or 3066 Kilometres) ...that; in anybody's book, is a huge distance to comprehend undertaking on foot!

I was trying to get an idea of how far the Brazilian army would have covered on their 4 day walk before getting to the 'chamber' with the other tunnels coming off it but it's really hard to predict because of not knowing how fast they were moving and for how long they walked each day...the average human being travels at 3.1 mph so that would mean they covered 31 miles in a ten hour day (however they must have been carrying a fair bit of tackle so it was probably less hours than this and less speed?)...however, for arguments sake lets say that they did cover that distance at that speed...that makes the 4 days worth of travelling a distance of 120 miles...

The longest 'man made' tunnel that is completely cut through rock is The 57km (35 mile) Gotthard rail tunnel in Switzerland...ok it's quite big in diameter (around 10m I think?)...kind of puts the tunnels in Brazil in to a whole different perspective doesn't it!!


more soon...


reply posted on 6-10-2012 @ 02:49 PM by Hanslune
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Depends on whether the people are in the region or have to fly in

I'd take anything Childress comes up with a very large piece of salt, about the size of Malta.

Contact the closest University geology department to that town and ask them also check with a local Speleology group, they probably have more accurate information on the cave(s).

There is probably more information on the caves but its probably in Portuguese
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reply posted on 8-10-2012 @ 12:22 AM by LordAdef
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Hi Optimus, great thread! I'm from Rio de Janeiro.

Bad news for you: the cave was officially close for public visitation in order to preserve it.
(In portugues)
Link in portuguese


This is an intersting link in Portuguese too, please use the google translator.

The interesting fact is that our major TV explored the cave with specific gear and researchers. According to the link they managed to cover 15 km of the tunnel until the air was apparently too thin and hot.

The tunnel indeed exists. No one actually found its end. It's all a fact.
I'll look for what TV GLOBO found exactly about this tunnel...

By the way.. Just google "gruta do Carimbado" and you'll find hundreds of pictures such as this one:



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reply posted on 11-10-2012 @ 10:45 AM by optimus fett
The following is translated from the link Lordadef kindly provided in Portuguese...



The Grotto Carimbado brings one of the biggest mysteries of the city of stones, as already deserted the interest of geographers, historians, researchers and the Brazilian media. The TV Headline sent a team to the city to investigate the cave, but they do not realize. Then the Globo TV with a whole specific equipment, technicians and researchers entered the cave with a mission to reach its final, traveled nearly 15 miles and found no exit, the thin air and high temperature of the room, made the continuation of the expedition infeasible.

To date, no one has achieved greater distances or come to some conclusion about where you can get the underground path. For those that take into account the geophysical aspects of the local relief, say it is impossible that will have more than 20 or 30 miles long, which would be an isolated fact, unprecedented in Brazil, but do not know how it could be A study bolder and effective without harming the environment and without changes in the structure of the site.

One person up to 1 m and 70 cm high by walking quietly initial path only slightly sloping path, which reinforces the theory of the slit was made by ancient civilizations and not a work of nature. Ancient civilizations believed that mystical as the Incas, have discovered through mapping astral, the city of São Thomé das Letras and developed an underpass there. Still others believe that there is an intra-terrestrial civilization, people living in the centre of the earth and are more advanced intellectually.

The very legend of Chico Taquara brings up the issue of the powers and mysteries of caves and passages magnetic, the dimensional portals and the interrelationships between humans, aliens and intra-terrestrial, giving lessons to mankind.

The mystical aspect and energy that connect the cities of Machu Picchu and São Thomé das Letras is not able to summarize all existing interactions and builds on these sites that reflect the oldest human rituals, worship the gods and nature. But all this is a mystery that surely will never be revealed, leaving us to accept it or not



Hmmmm...this would kind of dispel the '4 days underground' trip the Brazilian army apparently made? if the film crew only managed 15km before the air became thin and hot...to uncomfortable/dangerous for them to proceed.
(I,d be keen to know what time of year they did it..weather on the surface can effect temperatures inside mines and airflow)

It would indicate that if the air was becoming thin then 'fresh' air is not 'venting' in anywhere...well, certainly not by the point they got to...I,d be keen to know how specialised the 'cavers/miners' were that accompanied them were..what the oxygen levels were at when they turned back?


reply posted on 11-10-2012 @ 11:21 AM by RussianScientists
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I've been deep into this kind of stuff much of my life time, because this kind of stuff interests me. Actually there is another huge, long tunnel that was built by others that exists in the northern USA. A tunnel with traps that were set to keep people out. A group of explorers stopped at the last death trap they ran into after redigging out loads of fill that was designed to keep people out.

Caves and tunnels and old mines are very dangerous, but they are very interesting to explore. Unfortunately I've got to go right now, or I'll be late; otherwise I'd tell more about it.

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