It looks like you're using an Ad Blocker.

Please white-list or disable AboveTopSecret.com in your ad-blocking tool.

Thank you.

 

Some features of ATS will be disabled while you continue to use an ad-blocker.

 

Anti-Zionism - An excuse to be openly an anti-semite

page: 17
44
<< 14  15  16    18  19  20 >>

log in

join
share:

posted on Feb, 17 2012 @ 03:22 PM
link   
reply to post by Sintabon3
 


It is hard to know what is the answer to all these things you have asked. Since I believe in Revelation, I believe that this will all come to a head during this time. It seems that Armageddon is even now raging. Since I believe this is the time for the Fallen Angels to be judged by God in their final embodiment, I see all manner of evil happening on the planetary body. The question is, who are these fallen angels? Who are the biggest, most evil troublemakers in high places and with all the power? Who are the most greedy devils today? The plans for a NWO are the plans of Fallen Angels who know that their time is near.
How this all comes to pass is the question. In the meantime, the true Remnant is still the Remnant.




posted on Feb, 17 2012 @ 03:22 PM
link   
Weak! pat condell is a certified hater.Period.I gotta give it to him because he's a master bull#ter.


Patty know's how to play!! He considers jews a godless people!....So he's making things up in a constructive bull# ways to gain favour and support from jews.
edit on 17-2-2012 by DumbTopSecretWriters because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 17 2012 @ 03:30 PM
link   

Originally posted by Sintabon3

Well....maybe my spelling is #ty...but again...i am not a native english speaker...

but unlike you...i don't justify the holocaust or pogroms against jews like you do...that is just pure evil...and after that, you will again claim you are not a jew hater....What a joke...but realy, as pat condell says, if you have problems with the jews...go tell your doctor, i am not interested on hearing your rants about it.



Perhaps the problem is your denials of the split personality from Judaism. Most know that the extremes for capitalism came from the German Jewish Rothschilds (original name Bauer) banking system that catered to the Royalists of Europe, and the other extreme from the German socialist thinking Marx gang. It appears not that odd that both extremes came from one locality. The Socialist Jewish types designed Communism, set off to kill the Czar and his entire family, and the leaders of Socialist Russia began as 90 percent Jewish.

So, the current world's mess appears to be this huge split personality from Jewish leaders, one sect thinking of Kings, Royalists, and NWO globalists control, and the other after Socialism and no kings, no shadow Govt controlled by Corportation wealth. The latter shares values with the Essene and other like religions.

It isn't stange at all that these competing designs are butting heads against Russia and China. One side tells we like the Babylon Talmud usury design, control of countries via their money, and hate the US Constitution. The other side hates Corporatism, the games of ownership and control of corporations to dominate others and they have methods to prevent oligarchic capitalism.

Judaism is even right in the middle of the need for an Atomic Bomb to go battle some little fella named Hitler that got sick and tired of the Versallies Banking deals crippling German and so he boots out the Jewish bankers that then go running to the British Royals (who are Germans borrowing the name of Windsor---who trace their bloodline back to the Throne of David) and crank up a war against Germany.

So, this split personality in Judaism thinking on right and wrong is the fire that lit WWII. Hitler was more than willing to send the Jewish in German anywhere they would like to go, but it appears no country liked that idea. Then the world Jewish decided to basically declair war on Hitler in NYC, so Hitler tosses them in concentration camps. Now he has free labor for war machinery.

Hitler starts out Socialist and ends up with IG Farben Corporate Fascism, which as Hitler looses the war, goes off and mates up with the Rothschild's and Rockefeller fascism designs for world control via one world bank and globalist corporatism. Basically the Bilderberg Models.

Russia has never been ignorant of these problems, and the wool might have been pulled over the American's eyes for a long time due to the propaganda, but the Americans are waking up to the ruthless methods aimed at taking American's Freedoms, exploiting them, and it has Zionist fingerprints and Royalist backers.

So, all is coming to a head and there is no place to hide from the real history, and folks are seeing the issues associated with Zionism and why they can't seem to get along with anyone except other Jewish, as all this old baggage of hate from the Talmud's worship of Babylon to get to the world banking game and one world currency controlled only by them, and their corporations is the battle line between areas like Syria and Iran and their Communist oriented backers.

The problem is these oligarchic methods were aimed to take American's Freedoms and Constititiuonal Values, and American's don't like the thieves that did that.

So, get ready for WWIII and the Zionist again right in the middle with faked up issues of religion. imho

This is a millenea old problem and the very same one that existed between the Babylon Second Temple Pharisees and the Essene and their more Socialist views. It killed Jesus over the Essene pressing to change away from the Babylon Talmud issue, and that is the issue of Evil within the religious communities.


edit on 17-2-2012 by MagnumOpus because: Jewish Denials and History exposed

edit on 17-2-2012 by MagnumOpus because: Defining the Evils



posted on Feb, 17 2012 @ 03:31 PM
link   
reply to post by forklift
 


Wow, I've never seen that quote of Karl Marx, but man that packs a punch. I was right all along, Marx is evil. I've read that Marx was commissioned to write the Communist Manifesto for the Rothschilds. So that quotation completely makes sense. Marx is using his communist ideals to subvert the true Children of Israel for conquest by the Rothschild Satanists who desire the One World Government for their profit.
edit on 17-2-2012 by ThirdEyeofHorus because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 17 2012 @ 03:57 PM
link   
reply to post by MagnumOpus
 





Judaism is even right in the middle of the need for an Atomic Bomb to go battle some little fella named Hitler that got sick and tired of the Versallies Banking deals crippling German an


Hitler was just a pawn in the game. He had a huge ego. He was obsessed with the occult and went after the Spear of Destiny and even the Shroud of Turin. He desired these things as occultic powers. I saw a documentary years ago describing all this. But he was still a puppet just like our POTUS is today.



posted on Feb, 17 2012 @ 04:04 PM
link   

Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
reply to post by MagnumOpus
 





Judaism is even right in the middle of the need for an Atomic Bomb to go battle some little fella named Hitler that got sick and tired of the Versallies Banking deals crippling German an


Hitler was just a pawn in the game. He had a huge ego. He was obsessed with the occult and went after the Spear of Destiny and even the Shroud of Turin. He desired these things as occultic powers. I saw a documentary years ago describing all this. But he was still a puppet just like our POTUS is today.


Hitler was the bastardized blood of the Rothschilds. His mother was working as a maid for the Rothschilds family until one of them impregnated her. Recent DNA samples have proved this with the AShkanazi gene found in Hitlers DNA.

After the Havaara agreement he gave a huge % of German wealth for the creation of Israhell.
edit on 17-2-2012 by forklift because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 17 2012 @ 04:15 PM
link   
what is Zionism?

Not the definition, not the political viewpoints it encompasses, the spirit?

The want of a people to have a home. I understand that.

The pride of a people in a powerful group they form part of, with that group as a testament of their validity as people. Their validity established by their ability of survival.

The political roller coaster a party, an ideology, a people can go through as time passes over its generations is yet unmapped in its entirety. I say this since none is exempt from change that lasted long enough to make the decision to do so or not. When people refuse to adapt and change they become like the rocks turning into sand slowly as the waves of adversity come crashing upon their foundation. It is a slow process of slight deterioration over time, but a process of diminishing returns none the less.

It has been the singular ability of the Jewish people to survive by adapting and becoming reborn that has preserved them the world over. Indeed, it is a testament to humanities very existence.

We the people, has taken a new meaning for us long before our generations inherited the concept.
The identity of the people has evolved into something truly incredible. We have become a world of believers.
We believe in our potential. The concept of the world´s potential has deeply changed the game.

In the past a countries identity, its nuances and idiosyncrasies identified it and in doing so defined the purpose of that nations people. It has been also been used too by those that see advantage and take it. The honor of that is not in question. It is the practice of possibly ending the game that is.

When you win, you lose the ability to play. The people realize they are playing. they have been fed the win scenario with an overall acceptance. When it sets in what winning means, they choose to keep the game alive instead. It turns out they like playing the game more than the concept of winning.

Power, the bully, the criminal.
Labels given not by the people they describe, but by those they make losers in the process.

Strength, the righteous, the defender of order.
What people think of when they try and overcome adversity, survive well. They become these things to survive. Truth fighting to survive, or us as a species trying to survive truth. Trying to defend our truth.

The answer? war.......Hasn't worked yet.

In all the recorded history of mankind we have not had even 10 years of consecutive peace throughout the world.
True peace has not been tried yet. We have made this huge world small. We can now form it to whatever new matrix we wish. Would it not be logical to use that new found ability to our advantage?

Why dream of super humans? Bionic this, genetically enhanced that..........Why not become more enhanced as a species? Why not ensure our survival as a species? It makes sense to me. Think big if you can. We now can.
That changes everything.........the game has been reset, and no one noticed.

The worth of a single human life is a thing a great fallacy has been issued and accepted by all. It is not a thing that can be measured. Not when the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. Not when we know that,

We have become aware as a species, and have already developed a primordial collective mind.

The people have become more than their nations, or their ethnicity, or even their creator. They have become whole again after eons of dispersal. Where ever humanity formed or how it formed, it was once all together and whole.

We now see each other as part of a global family. The unification is inevitable, but not maybe the way we see it now. We have a long way to go down the road of development. It is scary at first. The end result is the greater existence for all.

Things only get better for all when all try to make things better.

Don't compromise yourself in a situation, but don't shut yourself out of compromise in any situation.

The ISMs of the past will become more useless in swaying people into splintering ideologies.
Every day we know more, every day we fear less. Always we are changing. Now we are doing that as a species.

The world now is in a state like when language was first uttered coherently between two people.
What do you think that conversation was about?
Probably food, shelter, and warning of danger.

Now that conversation can be about resource administration, global infrastructure, and global threats.
The world is moving beyond anti-isms. We the people are becoming whole again. Humanity is rising.

The argument of being anti anything is a dinosaurs last thunder before being buried in the sediment of time and eternity. We are aware of an over lapping and over writing truth. Pandora's box was opened when we were finally introduced to each other.

Anti-Semitism? no, rather
AS ONE.



edit on 17-2-2012 by casenately because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 17 2012 @ 04:22 PM
link   
reply to post by forklift
 



I have no doubt that Hitler came from some Jewish linked linage. Hitler's elites even appear to have designed the whole Third Reicht deal after things similar to Judaic symbols to gather a following. Hitler appears to have been deeply into Marx writings and connected that to the Versailles problems.

Hitler has the Swastika in place of the Star of David.

Hiler has the Arian People as the Chosen People due to intelligence issues.

Hitler has the Eagle in place of the Eye of Horus.

Lots of Symbolism from Hitler's Germany mimics old religion. Even his occult stuff is chasing down religious items.



posted on Feb, 17 2012 @ 04:30 PM
link   
I think it's perfectly possible to be anti-Zionist without being anti-Semitic. However, you'd have to be pretty naive not to notice the rampant anti-Semitism on ATS, masquerading as ''anti-Zionism'' or criticism of Israel.

It is unfortunate for those who have genuine and valid criticisms of Zionism and Israeli actions, but it's also understandable why many people are cynical and suspicious about the motives of those who spend an inordinate amount of time bemoaning Zionism.

A telltale sign of a poster's true anti-Semitic feelings in many threads is the correlation between the intensity of the argument and the lack of distinction between Israel/Zionism and Jews, as a whole; the more heated the discussion becomes, the more some posters seamlessly merge Israel and Jewish people in to one single bête noire.

Another suspicious aspect of some ''anti-Zionist's'' modus operandi, is how they spend so much time getting worked up about this one particular political ideology, when there are hundreds of similar - but non-Jewish - ideologies around the world, which they don't seem to get so upset about. By the same token, they single out the more nefarious actions of the Israeli government, while apparently not spending nearly as much time being concerned or outraged at the actions of other countries and governments.

I'm not really too surprised to find a lot of anti-Semitism on ATS, as, from what I've seen, neo-Nazis and racial supremacists are almost always conspiracy theorists, as well.



posted on Feb, 17 2012 @ 04:35 PM
link   
reply to post by MagnumOpus
 


We already have HARD evidence now from the DNA findings proving Hitler was an ashkanazi.

This guy gives a good insight:




It's sickening how Zionists think they can get away by twisting history to their advantage.

We have lost many great minds on ATS who got banned for being critical of Zionists. I wish they were still here because i learned alot from them.


edit on 17-2-2012 by forklift because: (no reason given)

edit on 17-2-2012 by forklift because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 17 2012 @ 04:49 PM
link   

Originally posted by seagull
The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.



Can one be anti-Zionist, and not be anti-Jewish? I suppose it's possible... I'm not a big fan of Israeli policies where Palestine is concerned... Does that make me an anti-semite? Hardly.

But...

Do people claim to be "merely" anti-Zionist to cover the fact that they are indeed anti-Semetic? Oh, yes, indeed they do. Look no further than David Dukes. When he speaks of "zionism", he means "the evil Jews".

So I suppose it depends upon the context, doesn't it?


As an ATS Staff Member, I will not moderate in threads such as this where I have participated as a member.


Funny you should mention David Duke. I'm no fan of the guy, but, I stumbled across this short(17:54) documentary with david duke talking about jews and the slave trade on whatreallyhappened.com. as a black man, I found this interesting to say the least. Here's the link(and, by the way, no racist or anti-semitic language is in this piece) www.youtube.com...

I would have embedded it, but I'm not sure how to do that. In any case, I'd like you all to watch that, and maybe even pick it apart if it's inaccurate. However, if it IS accurate, it's an eye-opener. Now, as to anti-zionism being anti-semitic, well, the UN thought otherwise when they declared zionism as racist, resolution 3379:
en.wikipedia.org...

spare me the "wikipedia isn't a good source" stuff. this resolution is all over the net. It was revoked years later, but, it's significant that the resolution passed. zionism IS a racist ideology.



posted on Feb, 17 2012 @ 04:54 PM
link   
My bad!
edit on 17-2-2012 by forklift because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 17 2012 @ 04:57 PM
link   

Originally posted by forklift
reply to post by LightsideAssassin
 


I will help you with this.

David Duke explains how Zionists control slavery:




edit on 17-2-2012 by forklift because: (no reason given)


thanks much.
2nd line



posted on Feb, 17 2012 @ 04:59 PM
link   
reply to post by forklift
 


You can't be serious. I'm as outspoken as any here about Zionism but Duke is a first class racist. His hate doesn't even belong with logical discussion.



posted on Feb, 17 2012 @ 05:00 PM
link   

Originally posted by intrepid
reply to post by forklift
 


You can't be serious. I'm as outspoken as any here about Zionism but Duke is a first class racist. His hate doesn't even belong with logical discussion.


Yeh i know he's a racist.

Just helping the dude get his video up.

I can take it off if you want.



posted on Feb, 17 2012 @ 05:06 PM
link   
Which reminds me, how can white supremacists or Neo-Nazis hate Jews and idolize Hitler who was an Ashkanazi himself.

Only if they knew, poor guys.



posted on Feb, 17 2012 @ 05:20 PM
link   

Originally posted by intrepid
reply to post by forklift
 


You can't be serious. I'm as outspoken as any here about Zionism but Duke is a first class racist. His hate doesn't even belong with logical discussion.


He exhibited no racism in that video, just laying out info. It should be viewed, and debunked if inaccurate.



posted on Feb, 17 2012 @ 05:24 PM
link   

Originally posted by Sintabon3

Originally posted by violence=answer
if being pro-freedom is anti-semitic,

i am very guilty


It's one of these "logics" which are so blatantly ridiculous that no one dares to apply them to anyone other than Jews. Who would dare to use something as insane? Only a Jew-hater. Why? Because he feels support of millions behind him, no matter what the accusation.




thats quite the jump you made...
if im pro-freedom, im a jew hater.
i would make the same exact comment about any other culture, religion, or anything that is anti-freedom.
i am against anything that is against being free.

i dont care how many are behind me, id stand alone defending freedom and the rights of others if needed.


someone, or something has you in a very obvious mental check.
just keep repeating what you are told, if your "party" gets what they want, how much value do you think you, your family and friends have to them?


i would say that you would just be a slave, but your already acting like one.



posted on Feb, 17 2012 @ 05:25 PM
link   

Originally posted by intrepid
reply to post by forklift
 


You can't be serious. I'm as outspoken as any here about Zionism but Duke is a first class racist. His hate doesn't even belong with logical discussion.



you are not alone
i have been reading your comments and agree fully.



posted on Feb, 17 2012 @ 06:27 PM
link   
reply to post by Sintabon3
 


It's a nice deflection tactic for the Zionist Agenda. I have zero reason to hate anyone for there race or religion. I have a particular admiration for Israelis as a people. I despise the Zionist Agenda and movement. Like al things, there are bad apples who use such a thing for racial agendas as well. There is no denying that. But this thread desperately attempts to label all of us who have issue with the Zionist intentions as racist towards Jews aka Semites.

That is a farce and an epic failure for even the most average of intelligent people. It may work with there BS public relations campaigns but it won't fly with me.

Some people are to PC, some people are not PC enough and then there are those of us who are not PC at all.

LIVE with it. I have to LIVE with the Zionist Agenda on a daily basis.

BTW, it was a Jew who opened my eyes through literature written by Jews about the Zionist agenda and history. I knew him as my friend and co-worker. He died because he believed in something and spoke out against it. Another Jew killed him. Was that Murderer who happened to be a Jew antisemitic? Or was he apart of something much bigger and was afraid that my friend was spreading the truth about Zionists across the globe in a piss ant snail mail newsletter one month that was distributed to his friends and family? Who knows. I know one thing though. He was a good man and didn't deserve to die for seeing the truth as he and many know it to be.



new topics

top topics



 
44
<< 14  15  16    18  19  20 >>

log in

join