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Anti-Zionism - An excuse to be openly an anti-semite

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posted on Feb, 17 2012 @ 08:24 AM
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so if you have a view on Zionism ..then your a racist Jew hater ? i'll tell you what, we will all stay quiet while the Palestine's/Arabs get wiped out..stay quiet while our banks wipe out our economy's ..when we lose our jobs and our homes ... Europe/america were the 1st to come to the aid of the Jewish people during the 2nd world war...you were helped to secure land in the middle east...you were given nuclear arms ..

but hey... if you question Israel's politics then we are no better than the Nazi's....


wow thanks for that...this thread is an insult to everyone who died liberating Europe ..

i have nothing more to add




posted on Feb, 17 2012 @ 08:33 AM
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Speaking of the Zionists hating other Semitic Peoples. The Palestine Arabs are hated in Israel.

What other Semitic people are hated by Israel? Oh Yes, the Essene and Jesus the Jewish Messiah.


Nothing gets the Zionists more upset than the story of Jesus. It has the Israeli Zionists walking past churches and spitting, it has laws against speaking to Israelis about Jesus, and many Orthodox Zionists like to spit on the Catholic Priests.

Jesus and the Essenes were against the Babylon gang in the 2 nd temple, and the Essene were the more pious Semitic people of religion.

Ever read what the Talmud tells of Jesus? He was a Semitic person too.


It is easy to spot a people that tend to worship themselves and become self aggrandizing, who don't have the values of benevolent purpose and love toward others, who seek wars and more wars for supremacy.

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www.eaec.org...

THE TALMUD HATES CHRIST AND CHRISTIANS:

Jesus was born a bastard (Jewish Encyclopedia, "Jesus"; Yebamoth, 49b).

Mary, the mother of Jesus, was a whore and "played the harlot with carpenters" (Sanhedrin, 106a, b).

Jesus "practiced sorcery and enticed Israel to apostasy" (Sanhedrin, 43a).

Jesus was punished and sent to Hell where he ended up in "boiling hot excrement" (Gittin, 56b, 57a).

Christians will go to Hell "and be punished there for all generations" (Rosh Hashanah, 17a).

Those who read "the works of the Judeo-Christians, i.e., the New Testament" will end up in Hell (Sanhedrin, 90a).

The books of the Christians "may not be saved from a fire, but they must be burnt in their place, they and the Divine Names occurring in them" (Shabbath, 116a). (Now you know what's been inspiring many of the anti-Christian attitudes and actions these days.)


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posted on Feb, 17 2012 @ 08:33 AM
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Originally posted by groingrinder
When folks criticize Jews or Zionists why is it ANTISEMITE. The ARABS are the Semites. Jews are Europeans.


Depends which ones you are talking about. Some indigenous peoples in Israel and surrounding areas are semite, and some of the muslim population are semite as well. Some of the people in Israel are ashkenaz and they are the Europeans. Many come from Germany and France, and Georgia. The history of zionism shows that early labor zionists had strong socialist roots.


Socialist Zionism (or Labor Zionism) strove to achieve Jewish national and social redemption by fusing Zionism with Socialism. Its founder was Nachman Syrkin, who promulgated this view shortly before the third Zionist Congress (1899).



Its philosophy was based on the assumption that the problem of Diaspora Jewry would remain unsolved even after the Socialist revolution, and that the solution to the anomaly of Jewish existence was the emigration of Jews to, and their concentration in, a territorial base. Dov Ber Borochov, a prominent advocate of Socialist Zionism, argued that the development of capitalism would inevitably prompt Jews to immigrate to Palestine, and that only there could the economic structure of the Jewish people be reconstituted as a base for the class struggle of the Jewish proletariat. Zionism, he asserted, is a historic-economic necessity for the Jewish people and the historic role of spearheading the Jewish national liberation process is reserved for the Jewish proletariat.


www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org...

Perhaps this is the reason many here in the States vote for the Marxist Obama.


This page has a listing of various ethnicities.
en.wikipedia.org...


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posted on Feb, 17 2012 @ 08:51 AM
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Well, I'm not surprised the Sanhedrin hated him. After all, they did condemn him to death and sent him to Pilate.They thought he usurped their authority. I guess they thought all that walking on water stuff was sorcery. Good thing the Hindus thought differently. They probably taught him how to do it.
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posted on Feb, 17 2012 @ 08:55 AM
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bull#. as per usual.



posted on Feb, 17 2012 @ 09:01 AM
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Originally posted by sitchin
so if you have a view on Zionism ..then your a racist Jew hater ? i'll tell you what, we will all stay quiet while the Palestine's/Arabs get wiped out..stay quiet while our banks wipe out our economy's ..when we lose our jobs and our homes ... Europe/america were the 1st to come to the aid of the Jewish people during the 2nd world war...you were helped to secure land in the middle east...you were given nuclear arms ..

but hey... if you question Israel's politics then we are no better than the Nazi's....


wow thanks for that...this thread is an insult to everyone who died liberating Europe ..

i have nothing more to add


wow, so what is your view on Zionism , because you claim to have no view but you still are making alot of bold statments ...... come on say it you know you want to



posted on Feb, 17 2012 @ 09:19 AM
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Originally posted by Lazarus Short

Originally posted by sith9157
Killing for religion....something I don't understand


It's easy to understand if you know that the central book of the religion in question dictates that all other people outside that religion are sub-human, and should be killed or enslaved. I speak, of course, of the Talmud, aka the Babylonian Talmud. Knowing that, you can guess, perhaps, who/what Mystery Babylon is...


The Yalmud is such a Broad Teaching wich covers infact every aspect of human life, and Even the most Known experts in the world on the subject admit after all the centuries of studying it, they know hardly anything at all about it and its depth...But you ofcourse are an expert on the talmud...like all anti-jewish...(sorry...anti-"zionists") on this jew hating infested forum.



posted on Feb, 17 2012 @ 09:23 AM
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A very good article on the whole ant-zionist vs anti-semite argument. Nothing is black and white.

www.rense.com...

Can a person be an anti-Zionist without being an anti Semite?

Absolutely yes. Zionism is a political creed and must be treated like any other. One can be anti-Communist without being anti-Chinese, anti- Capitalist without being anti American, anti-Globalist, anti-Anything. Yet, again, it is not always easy to draw the line, because real anti-Semites often pretend just to be "anti-Zionists". They should not be helped by erasing the distinction.

Can a person be an anti-Semite and a Zionist?

Indeed, yes. The founder of modern Zionism, Theodor Herzl, already tried to enlist the support of notorious Russian anti-Semites, promising them to take the Jews off their hands. Before World War II, the Zionist underground organization IZL established military training camps in Poland under the auspices of the anti-Semitic generals, who also wanted to get rid of the Jews. Nowadays, the Zionist extreme Right receives and welcomes massive support from the American fundamentalist evangelists, whom the majority of American Jews, according to a poll published this week, consider profoundly anti-Semitic. Their theology prophesies that on the eve of the second coming of Christ, all Jews must convert to Christianity or be exterminated.

Can a Jew be anti-Semitic?

That sounds like an oxymoron. But history has known some instances of Jews who became ferocious Jew-haters. The Spanish Grand Inquisitor, Torquemada, was of Jewish descent. Karl Marx wrote some very nasty things about the Jews, as did Otto Weininger, an important Jewish writer in fin-de-siecle Vienna. Herzl, his contemporary and fellow Viennese, wrote in his diaries some very uncomplimentary remarks about the Jews.

See link for entire article:

www.rense.com...



posted on Feb, 17 2012 @ 09:24 AM
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Skyfloating is a Zionist shill who circulates disinfo on this forum about how well the Israelis have treated the indigenous people of Palestine. She will even try to persuade us into believing that the Palestinians and Israelis are actaully the best of friends and that the Moslems there face very little, if no discrimination at all.


Psalm 52:2
Your tongue plots destruction, like a sharp razor, you worker of deceit.



posted on Feb, 17 2012 @ 09:29 AM
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Originally posted by ltinycdancerg
reply to post by Sintabon3
 


Hey POT! Hope you're having fun with the KETTLE.



Let me ask you this...


If someone, regardless of nationality, opposes the Iranian GOVERNMENT,
or the Saudi Arabian GOVERNMENT,
or Turkey, Syria, Kuwait, etc etc...
DOES THAT MAKE THEM RACIST AGAINST MUSLIMS?!?!

If someone challenges the government of China,
or India,
does that make them racist against Confucianists, Buddhists, and Hindus?!?!


If someone is against the policies of America, does that make them anti-Christian???


NO.
IT
DOES
NOT.

Get your head out of your own "bungholio" (haha Beavis & Butthead throwback!), and stop spreading this biased racist propaganda.
WE SEE RIGHT THROUGH YOU.
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Read the posts, most of the "I dont hate jews, just zionists" folks over here, dont come with critisism of Israels policies, but call to put an end to the country, not to menssion that straight after that, they complane on how the zionists (wich most jews are) are trying to take over the world, and how they are pure evil...is that the kind of critisism Turkey gets for using chemical weapons against the kurds or the russians cracking skulls in russia?...Definetaly not.



posted on Feb, 17 2012 @ 09:39 AM
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Originally posted by 1nOne
reply to post by Skyfloating
 


Skyfloating is a Zionist shill who circulates disinfo on this forum about how well the Israelis have treated the indigenous people of Palestine. She will even try to persuade us into believing that the Palestinians and Israelis are actaully the best of friends and that the Moslems there face very little, if no discrimination at all.


Psalm 52:2
Your tongue plots destruction, like a sharp razor, you worker of deceit.

The



Indeginouse people of palastine ha?...

As for the ancestry of the majority of palastinians, I know that due to the fact that most common Palastinian last names originate in other Arab countys wich are quiet far away from the area, like:

Khijazi = Saudi Arabia
Khamis - Baharein
El - Farukhi - Iraq
El Araj - Moroco
El Mugrabi - Mgreb
El yemeni - Yemen
Khamati - Syria
Khalabi - Sirya
Djani - Saudi - Arabia
Khuseini - Saudo Arabia
Masrawa - Egypt
Bardawil - Egypt
Zuabi - Iraq
Abu sita - Egypt
El - Azad - Yemen
El hijaz - Suadi Arabia
and lets not forget El - qadua - Ysser Arafat, the palastinian leader, wich all his life lied about being born in Jerusalem, whyle in the end it was realized that he was actualy born in Egypt.

Says alot about where there ancestory originated...

I can continue with the last names if you want, thats just a short list...

In fact most of them Imigrated to the Malreia Infested land after jews have started to flurish it and creat opertunities and jobs there....not to menssion that aftrer Jews returned to the land in the 1920s, The British governoment signed a deal with the mufti of jeruslaem Hajk amin el - khusseini to stop the Imigration of jews to the land, whyle Encouragin Arabs from all over the middle east to come there, as to rise the number of arabs....

as for jerusalem, wich ofcourse you will say that they had a mufti there, and therfore it belonged to the arabs,

Since the 1860s, there has been a Jewish majority in Jerusalem. With high Arab growth rate and the increasing flight of Jews from the city, how much longer will Jews be the majority in Jerusalem...ofcourse the arabs commited ethnic cleansing to the jews after that....like they know so well how to do , whyle crying their Hypocritical horse# about "Ethnic cleansing"....sorry for the #ty spelling btw.



posted on Feb, 17 2012 @ 09:40 AM
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Originally posted by 1nOne
reply to post by Skyfloating
 


Skyfloating is a Zionist shill who circulates disinfo on this forum about how well the Israelis have treated the indigenous people of Palestine. She will even try to persuade us into believing that the Palestinians and Israelis are actaully the best of friends and that the Moslems there face very little, if no discrimination at all.


Psalm 52:2
Your tongue plots destruction, like a sharp razor, you worker of deceit.


What does that make you, an Iranian shil?



posted on Feb, 17 2012 @ 09:44 AM
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Originally posted by khimbar

Originally posted by jed001
reply to post by Sintabon3
 


and here they all come goose stepping there way on to your post; " we only hate some jews not all jews"


'Their'.

Given the level of your post I felt obliged to correct it.


Thank you...English is not my birth language...Ill try to spell check more often



posted on Feb, 17 2012 @ 09:46 AM
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Personally, I am against communism and socialism in all of its forms and manifestations. Sadly, early zionism evolved out of the socialist and communist mindset of the Communist Revolution. Then there is the occult aspect involving the Satanist Rothschilds. As this is a conspiracy site, I am bringing the real conspiracy aspect into all this. Socialism and communism combined with occult and secret societies and Satanism is a lethal combination. Perhaps they just went with the revolution of the times for survival, which is easy to understand. But, then why not go with Capitalism? I do not believe that zionism truly represents the Jewish people in terms of the biblical nature.
The fact that Masonic symbolism graces the interior and exterior of the Capital in Israel is telling.



posted on Feb, 17 2012 @ 09:46 AM
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You have failed to address many of the vital points me and others have raised regarding 'Zionist hater = Jew hater'.

Now we are not here to to hear your pro-zion views, we want to know what justifications you have for the evil plans Zionists have been carrying in and out of Middle East.

Don't make me pull out speeches of your favorite top Zionist Rabbi called Ovadia Yosef.



posted on Feb, 17 2012 @ 09:48 AM
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Originally posted by Sintabon3

Originally posted by khimbar

Originally posted by jed001
reply to post by Sintabon3
 


and here they all come goose stepping there way on to your post; " we only hate some jews not all jews"


'Their'.

Given the level of your post I felt obliged to correct it.


Thank you...English is not my birth language...Ill try to spell check more often


Use Microsoft Word 2010, than correct your spelling mistakes and copy/paste here.



posted on Feb, 17 2012 @ 09:53 AM
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Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
reply to post by Sintabon3
 


Personally, I am against communism and socialism in all of its forms and manifestations. Sadly, early zionism evolved out of the socialist and communist mindset of the Communist Revolution. Then there is the occult aspect involving the Satanist Rothschilds. As this is a conspiracy site, I am bringing the real conspiracy aspect into all this. Socialism and communism combined with occult and secret societies and Satanism is a lethal combination. Perhaps they just went with the revolution of the times for survival, which is easy to understand. But, then why not go with Capitalism? I do not believe that zionism truly represents the Jewish people in terms of the biblical nature.
The fact that Masonic symbolism graces the interior and exterior of the Capital in Israel is telling.


Communism and Nazism are Ashkenazi rothschilds creation. Carl Marx was a Zionist and Hitler was the bastardized blood of the Rothschilds family.



posted on Feb, 17 2012 @ 10:05 AM
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Originally posted by RealSpoke
The very face that Israel is a Jew only country in theory is racist. Any other nationalists are called RACISTS. White nationalists, black nationalists, Latino nationalists, etc.

A Zionist is a Jewish Nationalist. They are racist........

Israel existing is as bad as a white only water fountain. Except it's worse, because it is a whole country.


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when judge whether it was just for Jews to go to Palestine and create a Jewish state there, you must take into account the Jewish issue.

What is the Jewish issue? It is 1700 years of utter hell visited on the Jewish people. The Nazi Holocaust - the "Final Solution" to that issue - was only the "latest greatest" in this hell. I think I have described enough of what I went and keep going through, and I belong to the lucky generation that has not experienced a pogrom
Only my grandfather was murdered for being a Jew.

Let me sum it up. Jews have a right to live!
There, I have said it. The rest follows.

Can Jews live without a Jewish State? The entire 1700-year-long history of exile gives one clear answer: No.
So, if a Jewish State is necessary for Jews to survive, where can it be? The whole world is taken. If a Jewish State were to be built in Uganda, would the native peoples of Uganda rebel? Of course, they would.
Same goes for every other part of the globe. Even Antarctica is taken.
So, if the whole world is taken, why not the Holy Land? Why not our ancestral home, to which the hearts of our people have turned for 2,000 years? Besides, if one looks objectively at the situation of 1850-1914, is this not one of the best places?
Almost empty, free of any natural resources, inarable, with no unique native population, no one but Jews to claim that they were here first, and only a tiny portion (less than 1%) of the Arab land. How less intrusive can Jews get?
Can a Jewish State be given to us, or do we have to take it ourselves? Our history again answers: It will not be given by rulers. For rulers, Jewish problems always had the lowest priority.
If we are to take land for a state ourselves, can it be done peacefully? No, it cannot. The entire human history speaks clearly on this.

But if there is no way but war and occupation to build a Jewish State, do we need a Jewish State. The answer is Yes, because the alternative is extermination, and Jews have a right to live.
In this particular case, conquest and war are not evil. Even Amos Oz (one of Israel's leading leftist writers) agrees, saying that Jewish right to Israel is a right of a drowning man to cling to an edge of a boat.
You have not heard anything about the Jewish issue recently. Why? BEcause it's been solved. Millions upon millions of Jews have fled to Israel from Arab countries, Iran, Poland, Ethiopia - places where they would've been massacred otherwise.

Notice the hypocricy: when Jews are run out of places where they had lived for hundreds or thousands of years (2200 years in Iraq) to save their lives, no one even notices. But let Jews displace someone, and there are 60+ years of uproar, with UN passing more resolutions on this issue that on the rest of the world, with 5 wars, intifadas, world-wide terror, you name it.
Why? Because the whole world is one giant Jew-hater, Traveling around the world, nowdays, and talking with people where Anti-semetism rises its Ugly head with the blanket "Anti-zionism". has proven me this beyond doubt...but hey..its enough to scroll back on this thread and read how people are promoting The protocols of the Elders of zion, as a complete truthe.


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posted on Feb, 17 2012 @ 10:10 AM
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Originally posted by forklift

Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
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Personally, I am against communism and socialism in all of its forms and manifestations. Sadly, early zionism evolved out of the socialist and communist mindset of the Communist Revolution. Then there is the occult aspect involving the Satanist Rothschilds. As this is a conspiracy site, I am bringing the real conspiracy aspect into all this. Socialism and communism combined with occult and secret societies and Satanism is a lethal combination. Perhaps they just went with the revolution of the times for survival, which is easy to understand. But, then why not go with Capitalism? I do not believe that zionism truly represents the Jewish people in terms of the biblical nature.
The fact that Masonic symbolism graces the interior and exterior of the Capital in Israel is telling.


Communism and Nazism are Ashkenazi rothschilds creation. Carl Marx was a Zionist and Hitler was the bastardized blood of the Rothschilds family.



Maybe If you didn't Use a Proven Anti-semetic Russian Hoax that was one of the main reasons for pogroms and massacres against jews in russia as a premis to most of your comments, I would believe that you are not an Anti-semite...in the meanwhyle, you quack walk and sound like a duck...
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posted on Feb, 17 2012 @ 10:12 AM
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Originally posted by shapur
By the look at what's going on in the world today,it seems like the Zionist lizards are expecting the much anticipated retaliation from the rest of the world.and yet again they are trying to drop the tail (Israel) behind,so the people will be busy celebrating their victory over the "Tail" while as usual the lizard is hiding somewhere in the shades!..........It is amazing how people fall for the same trick over and over again.


I think the doctor recomended you to take the green squar pills, not the round red ones.



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