Israel frequently deserves criticism. Israel’s policy in the Occupied Territories and its general treatment of the Palestinians deserve outright condemnation. The oppressed Palestinians need to be politically defended against Israeli governments and the Israeli military. The only halfway equitable solution to the Israel-Palestine conflict, a viable, independent Palestinian state in contiguous territory, side by side with Israel, needs to be argued for and upheld against Israeli power.
Solidarity condemns Israel’s treatment of the Palestinians. We defend the Palestinians and champion an independent Palestinian state side by side with Israel.
The difference here between left-wing anti-semites and honest critics of Israel — a category which includes a very large number of Israeli Jews as well as Israeli Arabs — is a straightforward one of politics, of policy.
The left-wing anti-semites do not only criticise Israel. They condemn it outright and deny its right to exist. They use legitimate criticisms, and utilise our natural sympathy with the Palestinians, not to seek redress, not as arguments against an Israeli government, an Israeli policy, or anything specifically wrong in Israel, but as arguments against the right of Israel to exist at all. Any Israel. Any Jewish state in the area. Any Israel, with any policy, even one in which all the specific causes for justly criticising present-day Israel and for supporting the Palestinians against it have been entirely eliminated.
The root problem, say the left-wing anti-semites, is that
Originally posted by trisvonbis
... yeah, whatever. And uh, "anti-semietic" ? It looks like you would be far better at writing in your native yddish. And your post is badly misplaced. Try the "Rants" section, it will fit much better in there. And mind the spit on your screen
Originally posted by MagnumOpus
Speaking on farse. The Definition of a Semitic People includes the Arabs and especially the Palestinian Arabs.
Telling more of the truths would have to speak to the issue that most of the Israeli Jewish religion folks are the Khazar orgin or Asian, and since they are not from the Semitic region are not considered a Semitic Race. imho
So, you do appear to have a problem with telling all the real issues.
Perhaps it is time to consider that the Zionist political agenda is to exterminate the Semitic Arabs.
Most of the Jewish folks have long lost the Ark of the Covenant and the focus point of the religion, plus most don't even read the Talmud to know where the Jewish religious law came from. Nor did they understand the non-pious beliefs introduced by the Babylon Captivity and the fall from the values of Noah, Moses, and David.
Zionism appears to many to be the new NAZIism with a faked up Chosen People that are not Semitic in origin that made deals with the Rothschilds and can't live in peace because of the overbearing non-pious beliefs from the Babylon times incorporated into the Zionist Extreme Beliefs. imho
You have failed to speak accurately on multiple levels of the issues of what is a Semitic People, the departure of Judaism from the old values into the ones from Babylon, and that Zionism is more about political control using non-pious religion.
“Media Matters and Center for American Progress are two extremely left-bigoted groups that are so virulently anti-Israel and anti-supporters of Israel that they’ve gone over the line from anti-Zionism to anti-Semitism,” Dershowitz said. ”They now use the term ‘Israel firsters,’ the way anti-Catholic bigots used to use the term ‘Vatican firsters’ or ‘Irish firsters,’ as if to suggest Americans who support Israel have dual loyalty. This false charge goes back to the Bible — goes back to the Book of Esther, goes back thousands of years. It was one of Hitler’s justifications for killing the Jews: ‘Dual loyalty, they’re not good Germans, they’re not good Americans,’ whatever it is.”
Dershowitz has been vocal against Media Matters in recent days, making that charge of anti-Semitism. However, his classification of the Center for American Progress as borderline “anti-Semitic” is noteworthy because both Media Matters and the Center for Progress have received money directly from billionaire left-wing financier George Soros, who has faced similar charges in the past.
“These two organizations have been found to be anti-Semitic by many of the objective monitoring groups,” he said. “And now they are closely associated with the Democratic Party and I have said very clearly there is no room in this tent for me on the one hand, and for Media Matters and for this other group on the other hand. We can’t be in the same tent. I will not be in a tent with fascists, with supporters of Ahmadinejad, with supporters of Hamas, with supporters of Hezbollah, with anti-Semitic bigots, whether they’re Jewish or not. Some of them are Jewish. Some of them are not.”
Originally posted by infowarrior9970
sure do focus alot on the word HATE. How about talking about LOVE....what does the world LOVE about the jewish peoples?? Does the jewish peoples LOVE the world and all the people who inhabit it.
Do jewish people LOVE THY ENEMIES??
or are we only going to hear about hate, hate, and more hate. seems to me the hatred is coming from the people who point fingers claiming hatred remarks.
LOVE is the only way.
Originally posted by WozaMeathed
No its not.
I can hate your government and The Zionist that control it, but that doesn't mean i hate Every Jew.
Im sick of some Jewish folk calling us all racist Anti semite's every time that we criticize your leaders or your country.
Were not racist jew hating people, we just hate some of the things that your Zionist leaders do.
There is the difference.
I should be able to call an ass an ass no matter what race they are.
Originally posted by Sintabon3
reply to post by WozaMeathed
You know what you are.
Originally posted by Sintabon3
This is a simple case of idiom. Anti-semitic, in English, has always meant anti-Jewish. The fact that Arabs and Samaritans and some other obsure groups are “technically” Semites too is irrelevant. It’s like the term air conditioning. Air conditioning could just as easily refer to heating as cooling. Both “condition” the air. But is DOESN’T. A/C means cooling. Heating means heating. An anti-Semite is a hater of Jews. There is nothing more nonesensical about an Arab being anti-Semitic than someone who is too cold wanting the air conditioning turned off.