Originally posted by Shred
In my opinion it's a sign of sickness of a nation when this is done for an entertainer. An entertainer is not a national hero. An entertainer is just
that; he/she takes peoples minds off of important issues for a short amount of time. But maybe that's the reason they're doing this, entertainment
over education and politics. It's making me sick, and I'm not dissing Houston.
edit on 15-2-2012 by Shred because: (no reason
That hits the nail on the head in my book. We live in a society who has replaced Batman and Superwoman with Sean Combs (i refuse to call him p-diddy
it makes me twitch) and Britney Spears. Our moral compass has been pointing in the wrong direction for a long long time. This is just another case
I have seen this all over the internet and on FB mostly.
NO I do not think they should be flown half-staff. She was an entertainer. She didn't do anything extraordinary or save lives. She entertained and
sang, something many other people do daily. She had a great voice yes but she destroyed it with drugs and that industry enabled it. She had the money
and means to do what she wanted and she also had the money AND means to get help, she didn't. She tried yes but again she had the money so the only
excuse she had was she didn't care enough to.
Most people in her situation can't get help like she could have. There are many other "celebs" and every day people in the same situation. Nobody
would give a darn if it were some drug addict off the street. They wouldn't even think twice and they'd belittle the person. Whitney Houston is no
different other than her career and celeb status. She was still a struggling drug addict yet people have more sympathy than even people in their own
family dealing with the same thing. I have seen drug addiction tear people apart and nobody cared yet people care because she sang some songs and was
famous. Her life was no more important than the person down the street who became addicted after a car accident. Nobody is immune to it. She just had
money so it was easier for her to feed that addiction. It's sad she died but it was bound to happen, look at her track record the last 20 yrs or so.
Even her daughter has had some addiction problems, her family needed help. I hope her daughter cleans up her act as well and see's what that kind of
life style can lead to, death...and early death.
There should be no debate on the flag imo. If they don't fly the flag this way for members in any kind of service like law or military who lose their
life defending another then why her?!?! This just shows what our country and the majority of society find important.
How is she a cultural icon? She's a black diva in the style of 64 badilllion other black divas who all sing the same sort of music,I really don't
think she was all that good anyway (I've heard better at karaoke),she once claimed to be bigger and more influential than the Beatles and Jesus and
she was a hopeless junkie with everything to live for.
It would be an insult to all that a national flag symbolises to use it for someone who only ever looked after number 1.
Are you on medication or drugs or are you a troll or newsreporter or working for a opinion research corporation (nielsen)? This should not
even be a thread.
...maybe you should read the post instead of knee jerking. It is a perfectly valid thread because it is yet another symptom of our seriously ill
society and deteriorating collective value system...hence posting in "US Political Madness" not sure about you, but I would call that politician's
hair-brained idea pretty snipping mad.
I didn't write the article, i don't condone the action. Don't kill the messenger.
Shouldn't you be trolling GLP or something?
edit on 15-2-2012 by clowdstalker because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by clowdstalker
Well um wow is about all i can say. I am all for honoring the deceased, especially cultural icons such as the late Whitney Houston...but the entire
nation to fly at half mast for her passing? I am a little baffled and at the same time totally not surprised.
Our culture has collectively placed those in the entertainment industry so far above the seething masses that the idea that these are simply ordinary
people whose talents lead them into extraordinary jobs has completely escaped us. Performers are nearly sacralized through our idolization of them.
I am not sure how to feel about this...its just...odd.
here is the article...another daily dose of wtf courtesy of the Internets and (of course) msnbc.
I know that this has been spurned by her home state which i can understand, local gal turned big time should be honored but at the same time, I can
think of a whole lot of solders whose passing went unrecognized on the national level who deserved this honor a whole lot more than she
edit on 15-2-2012 by clowdstalker because: (no reason given)
If you didn't post that link I would've thought you were kidding.
I think what the Gov. wants to do is fly the flags half staff in the state of New Jersey. He doesn't have the authority to order that for the entire
I don't know what got into him but I really don't think he's acting like a man in his position should. Whitney Houston was good at what she did.
Sing. There's no diputing that. Was she an addict? Yes. But we all have our faults. Bruce Springsteen is just as good, if not better, at what he
does and I'm a huge fan, but I'm not going to expect New Jersey to treat him like an official dignitary when he passes and fly their flags at half
staff. I think Bruce is on the level of Woodie Guthrie and Bob Dylan both lyrically and having a knack at elevating everyones social conciousness.
But at the end of the day, they're both singers. They're artists. They reach people on an emotional level by giving all of theirs.That's their
talent. But you can't take those emotions when they pass away and treat them as if they're something they're not. The people who literally give
their lives for this country deserve an official send off like this.
You have to keep your head in the game and it seems like Gov. Christie has his head somewhere else.
We all have our own personal deamons that we try to escape, and it's too bad that Miss Houston couldn't free herself of hers.
But......sorry......you dn't fly Government flags at half staff.
Only in Amerika , That's right folks sing other people's songs smoke weed and crack till you can't sing anymore
Blame the devil, die in bathtub in a 2k a night room and be a National hero ... lol sorry but damn what a sad state we have become...
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