What the Pentagon Guard Told Me About 9/11

Originally posted by R3velutionR3quired
reply to post by hdutton

 

last night I tried to stand up through the sun roof in our car lol at you

Oh well !!

My bad. I guess at night it would be a "moon roof."

Just thought I would try to make some statements which most people could follow.

I guess I missed.

reply to post by snowcrash911


Am I the only one on this site who gets confused about the replies to their comments ??

Many times I can't tell if someone is telling me I am right or if I am wrong in my opinions.

Oh, wait. I was not aware a person could be wrong in their opinion, just have one someone else does not agree with.

If she touched the plane then the engine nacells were scraping the ground.

If she touched the engine nacells then her hand was burnt by the exhaust gasses.

The story is BS.

reply to post by smyleegrl


You should have told them your name was Anwar al-Awlaki, they would have invited all of you to dinner! Sorry, I couldn't help myself on that one.

I guess my point being, if you are an American, you can be expect your own government to treat you like a terrorist, but if you are a so called terrorist, they will welcome you with open arms and wine and dine you....

Thank you for the story! It really makes you think about the insane criminals that we have running our country..

reply to post by MathiasAndrew


That was an excerpt from an airline training video, intended to illustrate for new hires the need to be vigilant as regards STATIC airplane engine thrust.

("STATIC" is the term used to describe an jet engine not moving, but only "blowing" all of its energy, in thrust).

For that particular "demonstration" the pick-up truck was stripped down...NO engine, all extra weight removed. Notice it is being towed by the firetruck? Go to large screen view, and look at the pick-up as it flips.

So, once again...when in flight, the energy of the thrust is being utilized to propel the airplane forward.....there IS a rush of air, as air is displaced physically by passage of the mass of the airplane. It is NOT the same as the STATIC thrust demonstration.

This is a very common misconception among laypersons who are unfamiliar with aviation and the science.

yeah, he told you a bull# story for sure. If you read the 9/11 report, it's FULL of bull# stories. I especially love the one where the pilots who belatedly got around to trying to intercept these planes clailm they flew "like scalded apes" except they were going like 500mph in planes that can hit 2+ mach. also, they somehow managed to go the wrong way.

I mean, it's funny, but deeply sad and tragic, because our own govt.(with a nice big assist from the mossad) declared war on all of us that day.

and they're still getting away with it.

reply to post by LightsideAssassin


Yeah, nightmare for you. Bit worse for all the guys and gals they shot up in the Middle East.

reply to post by LightsideAssassin


The stories you have read about the interception attempts on 9/11 are grossly misrepresented.

There was much confusion, and indecision early on, and also miscommunication.

If you want a source of bull-cap "stories", turn to any number of so-called "9/11 conspiracy" websites that peddle the nonsense.

Originally posted by ScottishBiker420
reply to post by smyleegrl

 

Hahahahahahahahaha

Seriously!!! A woman touched a moving jet aircraft from the sunroof of a car???

1st of all there's the immensely hot gas exiting the engines could probably burn her just by being behind it,then coupled with the fact that if the plane was low enough for her to "touch" from her sunroof wouldnt the cars have all been blown back by the force of the jet and thirdly if it was flying at that height coming down if she could touch the bottom from her sunroof wouldnt the plane already be hitting lamp posts street signs etc etc

what a shower of sh*te

i too thought the car would of been blown away as seen on top gear(tv)

Why would this escort know anything? He proabably was just repeating a story he heard about the plane / sunroof. I think it's kind of funny how all these sources are supposed to have been "in the know" about 9/11, including news stations, guards, medical staff, police and fire, and more.. but nary a leak has occured.

As far as an escort goes, how old was he? I imagine he didn't work there when it occured over 10 years ago, and was just repeating what he heard.

I haven't gone through all the posts to this thread, but has anyone speculated yet that the OP is just plain old manure?

Originally posted by ProudBird
reply to post by LightsideAssassin

 

The stories you have read about the interception attempts on 9/11 are grossly misrepresented.

There was much confusion, and indecision early on, and also miscommunication.

If you want a source of bull-cap "stories", turn to any number of so-called "9/11 conspiracy" websites that peddle the nonsense.

Kinda hard to miss large airliners flying off-course. Unless you mean to. I direct that at NORAD, and FAA, not the fighter pilots themselves. No amount of miscommunication accounts for all the discrepancies(which have been posted time and again here, so I won't repost them). false flag, by some of our own people, period.

Originally posted by TrickoftheShade
reply to post by LightsideAssassin

 

Yeah, nightmare for you. Bit worse for all the guys and gals they shot up in the Middle East.

true that.
2nd line.

Originally posted by smyleegrl

As soon as he told us this amazing story, I called foul. I explained my thinking, and did so in the presence of most of the students. He just shrugged and said it really happened that way. Then we left the room and continued with the tour.

I'm pretty sure the story was made up to be used to psychologically profile visitors, or to trigger an alert.

Originally posted by fleabit
Why would this escort know anything? He proabably was just repeating a story he heard about the plane / sunroof. I think it's kind of funny how all these sources are supposed to have been "in the know" about 9/11, including news stations, guards, medical staff, police and fire, and more.. but nary a leak has occured.

As far as an escort goes, how old was he? I imagine he didn't work there when it occured over 10 years ago, and was just repeating what he heard.

I'm only guessing but I'd put his age at mid-twenties; So he wasn't in the military when 911 happened.

Here is a website that gives some details about the pentagon tour and what the tour guides have to go through to become a guide.
Pentagon Tour Info

I did not mean to imply that I believed the guard to be a fount of all knowledge. I just wanted to share what he said, which I found odd.,

Originally posted by GoodOlDave

Not that it matters, as there were so many other legitimate eyewitness accounts from journalists in nearby buildings to an immigrant from El Salvador watering the Pentagon lawns that irrefutably certify it was a plane that hit the Pentagon so there really isn't any need to be inventing such stories. Let's face it, only in conspiracy mongor paranoa world does it make sense that novice pilots aren't capable of crashing an airplane.

The issue isn't whether or not novice pilots are capable of crashing an airplane, it's whether the airplane they crash is capable of leaving behind such a small hole and small amount of debris.

Also.. if you're taking those witness accounts as proof, then what say you of all the witness accounts about explosions at WTC?

Originally posted by hooper
I haven't gone through all the posts to this thread, but has anyone speculated yet that the OP is just plain old manure?

How so? Because I related a story told to me? I started this post by stating it was purely anecdotal.

Again, I DO NOT BELIEVE THE WOMAN TOUCHED THE PLANE IN THE MANNER DESCRIBED. This was simply the story told to me by the guard.

reply to post by smyleegrl


So based on your 'story' you and 'Norma' were singled out for extra profiling, because of your questioning the 'official' store given, meaning that you are now on some special watch-list; yet you decide to share your 'story' on ATS, which would make it very easy for any agency watching this site, to narrow down with a 100% accuracy just who YOU are?

Aren't you worried aout a knock on the door in the early hours of the morning now?

I'll keep an eye out for future posts from you, but if you suddenly drop-off the ATS board, I'll have a fairly good idea why

Originally posted by CoherentlyConfused
I guess they think if we're dumb enough to believe the official story they tell us, we're dumb enough to believe anything.

A plane flying that low, moving as fast as it had to have been going would have blown her right off the car. If she did manage to reach up and touch it somehow, it would have ruined her hands.

Imagine going down the highway 65 miles an hour and sticking your hand out the window to touch the guardrail. You wouldn't be that stupid. Now imagine your car was going as fast as that plane was going and doing it. Or try sticking your hand out to touch a moving train.

Probably traveling somewhere around 500 MPH -- yeah, no surprise this is a nonsense story.

>> The guard was pulling Norma's leg.

They probably did the photocopy thing and just laughed to each other later -- as they are sick of the questions. I doubt you would EVER get a straight answer at the Pentagon. The average guard is screened to cull out the curious, and the people who KNOW aren't talking.


Your school is probably NOT touring the Pentagon this year because it's a boring trip. There are more interesting places to go.

Originally posted by SpaceJockey1
reply to post by smyleegrl

 

So based on your 'story' you and 'Norma' were singled out for extra profiling, because of your questioning the 'official' store given, meaning that you are now on some special watch-list; yet you decide to share your 'story' on ATS, which would make it very easy for any agency watching this site, to narrow down with a 100% accuracy just who YOU are?

Aren't you worried aout a knock on the door in the early hours of the morning now?

I'll keep an eye out for future posts from you, but if you suddenly drop-off the ATS board, I'll have a fairly good idea why

LOL.

I think I'll refer to Douglas Adam's "Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy" and reference the Guide's entry for a description of both earth, and ATS bloggers; "Mostly Harmless."

There are hard core 9/11 people here, and others concerned about vapor trails. Other than reposting some Engineers and MIT grad's points that the WTC towers could not have been brought down by fire, and that the NIST was in fantasy land when they tried to explain WTC 7 -- we have had no real impact. As long as the dogs are barking and not biting -- they are just an annoyance.

None of us will probably do anything until we are standing in a soup line and they run out of soup -- that includes me.