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So, How are these guys doing on their Performance Review? Have they be able to convince you, Man Made Cirrus Clouds are Harmless?
Originally posted by EyeDontKnow
I work in hollywood productions a lot. When the lighting guys send a beam of light across a dark background. you see all the dust in the air....it's just a highlighted occurance of the dust in the air.
....and this is INDOORS when I see this....with the closed stage doors for hours.edit on 15-2-2012 by EyeDontKnow because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by tsurfer2000h
reply to post by Gmoneycricket
So, How are these guys doing on their Performance Review? Have they be able to convince you, Man Made Cirrus Clouds are Harmless?
I can see where this is going and that would be nowhere. Other than childish remarks do you plan on posting anything relevant to this thread,because so far you haven't? As for their reviews they have done a great job at making you look like,no I won't stoop down to the childish games you seem to want to pull members into.
BTW I don't need someone to convince me of anything I know how to do research on things,do you?
Do you get sick when there are clouds in the sky,because you have a better chance of getting sick from the pollution that is created here on the ground? Better yet can you prove they aren't harmless? Well give it your best shot at proving they aren't harmless, in fact how many people have you ever heard about get sick from contrails? Remember they have been around for decades and I can't recall ever hearing of someone getting sick from contrails have you? I bet you haven't,have you?
Originally posted by tsurfer2000h
reply to post by Gmoneycricket
I may need to let you know that I live and work around the world's busiest airport in he world Hartsfield/Jackson International in Atlanta,Ga, so I see many planes that fly over on their way to other destinations which means I see a hell of a lot of air traffic everyday and imagine that I have not gotten sick from any contrail that has been left in the wake of their fly overs. Sorry but that is a fact, and I will guess you haven't ever been sick because of them either have you?
Auto Emissions and The Environment In his first term President Bush proposed $1.2 billion in research funding for hydrogen-powered automobiles. He called on Americans for their support, saying "Join me in this important innovation to make our air significantly cleaner, and our country much less dependent on foreign sources of energy." What's wrong with the cars we have now? Today, personal vehicles account for 40% of all U.S. oil consumption and 19% of all U.S. carbon emissions.
Originally posted by tsurfer2000h
reply to post by Gmoneycricket
Auto Emissions and The Environment In his first term President Bush proposed $1.2 billion in research funding for hydrogen-powered automobiles. He called on Americans for their support, saying "Join me in this important innovation to make our air significantly cleaner, and our country much less dependent on foreign sources of energy." What's wrong with the cars we have now? Today, personal vehicles account for 40% of all U.S. oil consumption and 19% of all U.S. carbon emissions.
www.pbs.org...
Seems like this has been a problem right here on the ground also so what do you think is gonna get you first pollution at 30,000 ft or pollution from the ground based automobiles? I would put my money on the pollution that comes from a lot closer than 30,000 ft.
Originally posted by Gmoneycricket
I have seen graphs posted from the debunkers that claims soot as part of plane exhaust.
So a common sense approach to it would be, there is something in the aerosol shown in that video that came from a plane even if only 1 part to one billion, or trillion.
The American Lung Association and the National Parks Conservation Association are suing the federal Environmental Protection Agency to force it to update air-quality standards as required every five years.
Particulate matter emitted from power plants, factories and diesel trucks is among the most toxic forms of pollution. Advocates for the national parks point out that it also threatens plants and wildlife, and the haze it creates can ruin the views.
But there was some truth in there somewhere,
we just don't know the amount.
3.3.5. Soot
The primary atmospheric source of soot or black carbon particles is combustion of fossil fuels and biomass burning at the Earth's surface, with total emission values near 12 Tg C yr-1 (Liousse et al., 1996). This value exceeds reasonable estimates of the aircraft source of black carbon by several orders of magnitude (Bekki, 1997). For example, aircraft are estimated to have emitted 0.0015 to 0.015 Tg C as soot into the atmosphere in 1992 [with EI(soot) of 0.01 to 0.1 g C/kg fuel] (Friedl, 1997; Rahmes et al., 1998).
Originally posted by Gmoneycricket
Anyway before I say good night,
Men in those big flying machines
burn fuel
that we also used to make light
We progressed beyond a
kerosene light
and gave the fuel to man
so he could fly
now that he can fly
and we pay more for light
and breath better
in our homes tonight
he comes back and mocks us
because we gave him our cheap light
the worst part is before light it was whale oil
so if we run out of crude oil in the night
are the men that fly
going to start hunting
whale tonight?
it burns the same
maybe even in flight.
Gmoney
Feb 2012
Thought I should sign and copywrite
edit on 16-2-2012 by Gmoneycricket because: Thought I should sign and copywrite
Originally posted by MathiasAndrew
reply to post by 3danimator
Ok mate. Just answer these for me if you can.
1: Why would whoever you believe to be responsible for the chemtrails be spraying the very air that they and their loved ones breathe?
They think that reducing Global Warming by Geoengineering is a more important problem that that caused by the side effects of chemtrails.
2: If indeed they ARE spraying. Do you not think that after decades of doing it they might have noticed that whatever they were hoping to achieve (poising, brainwashing, controlling?) has failed?
You left out Geoengineering, it has not failed. Actually it's been so successful that people think AGW is a myth now.
3: Would it not be MUCH simpler to fiddle with our water?
They already do fiddle with our water. I do not support the theory that chemtrails are for the purpose of poisoning people. I think it's about raising the Earth's albedo to increase the radiative forcing effects of clouds to reduce Global warming
4: How has none of the hundreds of thousands of people who work with chemicals, planes, cargo, engineering etc... come forward about something weird going on?
They have, you're just not willing to accept them as being credible for some reason
And as for what contrails supposedly used to look like, you ARE aware that planes and their engines have changed hugely over the decades right? As have the altitudes they fly at. You are aware of this right?
I'm quite aware of all of it. Do you even know what Geoengineering is? If so why did you leave that part out of your post? You do know this forum is about Geoengineering right?
edit on 15-2-2012 by MathiasAndrew because: (no reason given)