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Why are some ATS members ignoring the obvious fact that Modern America is connected to Hitlers Nazi

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posted on Feb, 14 2012 @ 03:01 PM
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This thread is directed towards all those that dont believe that the modern America and it Military ARE connected with WW2 NAZI Germany.

After reading some post and threads on ATS of late i have come to the conclusion that many people here are Ignorant to the fact that modern America is based on practices by Hitler and his 3rd Reich.

Here's a link about the 3rd Reich
en.wikipedia.org...

So after WW2 Hitler's henchmen were recruited by the USA and The USSR.
This was called Operation Paperclip by the Americans and this recruitment of Nazi scientists and military personel helped shape modern day America.
Operation Paperclip is when America forced Nazi's that were captured during WW2 to work for them after the war.
Heres a link for those that dont know about Operation paperclip.
en.wikipedia.org...

And here's a video about it.


Also America's space feats wouldn't have happened if it wasn't for the NAZI's.

Here's another link. This one is About the NAZI Von Braun the leader of the American space race.
en.wikipedia.org...
Here's another link about him.
www.history.ac.uk...

So for all those that think that there is no connection between Modern America and WW2 Nazi Germany well,,,,,,, you ARE mistaken.


If anyone can add more Info to this discussion i would appreciate it.
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posted on Feb, 14 2012 @ 03:22 PM
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The same can be said of the Soviets....

russianspaceweb

airspacemag< br />
They captured equipment and engineers, just like we did.



posted on Feb, 14 2012 @ 03:25 PM
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Im very sure the U.S. would have developed a ballistic missile at some point. Yes, we did get the technology from the Nazis. But a ballistic missiles design is pretty simple and it wouldnt have been long before several other governments started developing designs for something similar. Modern America and Nazi Germany arent anything alike. Just because there are one or two similarities doesnt mean the governments are anything alike. And we also employed several Japanese war criminals after the second World War. Does that mean America is just like Imperial Japan? Give me a break.


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posted on Feb, 14 2012 @ 03:33 PM
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Originally posted by butcherguy
The same can be said of the Soviets....

They captured equipment and engineers, just like we did.


It's true for both.

Researching the Bush family alone will clear up all doubts if you go into it with an open mind. For those with closed minds, very little can convince them of anything.



posted on Feb, 14 2012 @ 03:36 PM
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There's more involved in WW II than meats the eye. We went over to whip the devil, but we ended up bringing him home. The US had the world's highest moral standards before WW II, now look at us.



posted on Feb, 14 2012 @ 03:37 PM
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Let's not forget the Bush family connections to Hitler or that President Hoover's campaign was backed by the same money (Schroder) that helped pay to get Hitler into power. For the past 80-90 years America's elite and the Nazi regime (or at least the people who started the party, and who still carry their agenda to this day) have been sharing cookies from the same jar. Why people ignore this fact, I'll never understand.

The Herbert, Nazi, Federal Reserve connection has always been one of the most intriguing in my eyes. The agenda seems to conflict with itself unless you factor in that Schroder was using Hitler and Hoover for his other connection, the Rothschilds.

another piece to your puzzle

Some more info...





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posted on Feb, 14 2012 @ 03:38 PM
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Originally posted by butcherguy
The same can be said of the Soviets....

russianspaceweb

airspacemag< br />
They captured equipment and engineers, just like we did.


Agreed.
But does that make it Right?
Are you happy that the Facts ARE that your modern country was built by Nazi mass murderer's?
The same Nazi's that helped kill countless amounts of innocent people with their weapons and their gas chambers.
Are you also happy that your space shuttle's were built by the same Nazi's that built the V2 bombs that killed innocent people and terrorised parts of the world.

I hope your not proud of it.
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posted on Feb, 14 2012 @ 03:41 PM
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Never claimed to be happy or proud of it.

As a matter of Fact I wasn't even born yet when WWII ended. Even if I was alive, I had nothing to do with shaping plans of either country.



posted on Feb, 14 2012 @ 03:43 PM
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I keep trying to tell you.....THEY'RE ALL SLEEPING WITH EACH OTHER. We're nothing more than PAWNS, in their game of chess. We are expendible. Why should they care about us? We're nothing more than SLAVES! I will say this....rich, white man....is good at selling us his product. He has EVERY race, bowing at his feet...like he were a god. I guess he knows something we don't because we keep buying his B.S. Now, who wants some "niggah pie"???? Everyone should have their hands raised because we have: white niggah pie, black niggah pie, yellow niggah pie, brown, red and purple niggah pies. The only type of pie we DON'T have, is rich, white niggah pie. We're all sold out!

And please, don't let the word, "niggah" fool you...or cause you to think i'm rascists. FACT IS: in their eyes we're all "niggahs"....and that's putting it MILDLY!!!!!!!!

Definition of "NIGGAH"



posted on Feb, 14 2012 @ 03:53 PM
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Very interesting thread OP, but I wish you would have gone a little deeper down the rabbit hole so to speak. Though you are right about the Nazi scientists being used by the US and Russia, I think you should of done research into Reinhard Gehlen and the role he played with OSS and later CIA it would have made your argument much stronger.


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It was decided to use Gehlen to collect intelligence on the Soviet Union from a network of anti-communist informants in Eastern Europe. This group became known as the Gehlen Organization. In 1949 Gehlen signed a contract with the CIA, reportedly for a sum of $5 million a year, which allowed him to expand his activities into political, economic, and technological espionage. Gehlen recruited large numbers of former members of the SS and the Gestapo. This included Franz Six, who had led Einsatzguppen mobile killing squads on the Eastern Front. The Gehlen Organization was also used to help Nazi war criminals escape to South America. This included Klaus Barbie who was smuggled out of Germany in March, 1951 and given a new life in Bolivia. It has been alleged that in some cases the CIA helped Gehlen to get these men to safety.


CIA and NAzi War Criminals
Gehlen
His organization

There is plenty of info and docs on Gehlen and his influence and connection with CIA. You should dig deeper OP.



posted on Feb, 14 2012 @ 03:57 PM
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Originally posted by WozaMeathed

Originally posted by butcherguy
The same can be said of the Soviets....

russianspaceweb

airspacemag< br />
They captured equipment and engineers, just like we did.


Agreed.
But does that make it Right?
Are you happy that the Facts ARE that your modern country was built by Nazi mass murderer's?
The same Nazi's that helped kill countless amounts of innocent people with their weapons and their gas chambers.
Are you also happy that your space shuttle's were built by the same Nazi's that built the V2 bombs that killed innocent people and terrorised the world.

I hope your not proud of it.


The same can be said for ANY major world power throughout history. If you go digging for genocide you'll find it. Who honestly cares? Why are people on ATS so over dramatic? It's great to state facts and all, but to whine about it is another thing. Sometimes it seems like people here sit on the computer and think "gee, what can I complain about next?" Big deal we used some of their scientists. Einstein also helped the Nazis in WWII. They're scientists not the people in charge of the final solution.

This is pretty insignificant. Especially for the fact that we now have a black president. Yeah, I bet Nazis would sure love that.

Our country is run by jews.
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posted on Feb, 14 2012 @ 04:04 PM
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Dont you get it?

Its OK to consort with Nazi war criminals and use them for your own ends, JUST AS LONG AS YOUR AMERICA.



posted on Feb, 14 2012 @ 04:05 PM
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What difference does the race of the POTUS make when he has no power? He's a puppet on a string. His race, his religion, his personality are only there to appease the masses, the stupid stupid masses. The PTB will dangle whatever shiny object the people will buy up in order to maintain the illusion. Why do you think Obama was chosen in the first place? The people wanted the exact opposite of Bush. That's what they were given. Same agenda, different packaging.



posted on Feb, 14 2012 @ 04:16 PM
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The same can be said for ANY major world power throughout history. If you go digging for genocide you'll find it. Who honestly cares? Why are people on ATS so over dramatic? It's great to state facts and all, but to whine about it is another thing. Sometimes it seems like people here sit on the computer and think "gee, what can I complain about next?" Big deal we used some of their scientists. Einstein also helped the Nazis in WWII. They're scientists not the people in charge of the final solution.
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No it is not insignificant especially when you get into the fact that the intelligence systems worked closely with Nazi's like Gehlen and they used the system to allow many war criminals to escape; many of which were part of the final solution.

It also shows a much more systematic and greater problem through out the intelligence community and global politics; the enemy of or enemy is our ally doctrine.

The fact is if you look at all the wars we have fought since Vietnam most have been with former "allies" of the us, allies that were aided by the CIA; the gulf war with Saddam Hussein; once our great ally while fighting Iran and suddenly our enemy, and the current war on terror, which is claimed to have been started by Osama bin Laden; our great ally when fighting the Russians in Afghanistan, but then our great enemy. The sad thing is because people like you think it's so irrelevant is the reason the US will continue to fight endless wars for ages to come, or until our nation collapses.

Even now, we are supporting anti socialist death squads in South America and supporting very violent and viscous warlords in Afghanistan. We will probably have wars with both of those groups in the future, as they continue to gain power from our support. The whole doctrine creates an endless problem...Stupid is, as stupid does I guess. Or the whole geopolitical game is just that; a game, and the US citizens primarily are the ignorant rubes used to foot the bill and shed the blood.

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posted on Feb, 14 2012 @ 04:18 PM
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Thank you for making the thread I was too lazy to make.


Seems it's easy for posters to talk about Iran cozying up to Nazis, but forget about Americans doing the same damn thing.



posted on Feb, 14 2012 @ 04:19 PM
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Originally posted by WozaMeathed
This thread is directed towards all those that dont believe that the modern America and it Military ARE connected with WW2 NAZI Germany.

Who exactly denies this?

I'm just going to go ahead and state the obvious... I'd bet whatever you would like that 99% of Americans on this site already know that. Granted, I'm sure a lot of Americans don't know this, but this is old news for anyone into conspiracies at all. But if you're an American (or any other nationality for that matter) on ATS and have no idea what Project Paperclip is, you have not been around long. Von Braun even had a series of short Disney films.

Did you just stumble across this information and start a thread? It would be great on another forum where people aren't aware, post somewhere that's not full of conspiracy theorists and you'd be doing a great service for the ignorant.



posted on Feb, 14 2012 @ 04:20 PM
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The links were there before paperclkp - read ibm and the holocaust to give yourself further info to back up your ideas.



posted on Feb, 14 2012 @ 04:25 PM
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Originally posted by FugitiveSoul
reply to post by reaxi0n
 


What difference does the race of the POTUS make when he has no power? He's a puppet on a string. His race, his religion, his personality are only there to appease the masses, the stupid stupid masses. The PTB will dangle whatever shiny object the people will buy up in order to maintain the illusion. Why do you think Obama was chosen in the first place? The people wanted the exact opposite of Bush. That's what they were given. Same agenda, different packaging.






That one sentence in my post is what you picked out of that? lol

You're right, he has no power.
The Jews do.
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posted on Feb, 14 2012 @ 04:25 PM
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Why slag on the OP, juts because you and others may know this info. The fact is there are a great many ignorant people on ATS I see them posting all the time and really almost all the conspiracy theories here are old hat, or just remakes of older conspiracies. I guess since you think ATS doesn't need threads like this, then everyone here knows everything, so why not just shut the site down. Don't like the thread then don't read it, otherwise lay off the OP, they are just trying to contribute and bring an old topic back to peoples attention and with the swiftness that most threads are buried in the pile of pasts posts never to be seen again there is nothing wrong with that.

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posted on Feb, 14 2012 @ 04:26 PM
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So what is it with this site? Why are people here so schizophrenic, seriously?

Are the Nazis the new controlling power of the US instead of Zionist Neocon Jews from Israel? Is this the new theory? Because I think there's way more proof to support the latter.

Just because we used the brilliant minds of Nazi SCIENTISTS (most often forced to work by the Nazis), does not mean we are controlled by NAZIS. What is with the delusion here?
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