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Why Are The Most Obvious Nazi Connections Ignored?

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posted on Feb, 14 2012 @ 07:13 PM
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No I wouldn't. I do not wish to engage in any discussion with anyone that points the "swastika" as an "obvious connection" when we're talking about Iran (see the meaning and origins of the swastika).


There was so much more than a swastika in the OP and subsequent posts. You simply choose to ignore it because it doesn’t fit your agenda. You, sir, are transparent. You wear your bias on your sleeve!




But I tell you this... if you really know anything about the nazis or the nsdap, go check on who funded little adolf in his crusade. Whos money was in his quick rise to power (cause... well Germany wasnt really doing well in the economy department by the time hitler came around) And then, go check who are your mighty overlords in america.


I won’t go do your homework for you. If you have a point to make then I suggest you make it, as I have done, if you expect any credibility.

Pffft……




A "salute" and a swastika are not really the most "obvious" connection... not by a mile. Go read a bit about your... hmmm... "sponsors". By the way... the conclusion may be a bit hard to digest, but its the ugly truth.

Perhaps then, when you have studied and investigated enough, it wont be so much "unsubstantiated".


Funny thing is you still haven’t backed up a thing you’ve said. You’re no professor, so don’t try and assign homework, youngster. You’re welcome to come back to my thread when you’re more prepared to back up your talking points with substance.




posted on Feb, 14 2012 @ 07:25 PM
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Actually... I am a professor. I'm graduated in History and I teach in college. But that was ironically rather funny.

I dont have to do anything for you. If you want to know, study it, investigate. Use the gray matter you have behind your eyes, which is btw right now doing nothing - put it work.

Its not "home work" man... grow up. I'm trying to make you think for yourself. Try it. You just deny everything I say and yet you havent done any research, all you did was a ridiculous thread and even after ppl try hard to open your eyes, you choose to stand by your lack of knowledge and defend it like your life depends on it. Well... maybe it does.

And I have no agenda... "templar".



posted on Feb, 14 2012 @ 07:37 PM
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Originally posted by FraternitasSaturni
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Actually... I am a professor. I'm graduated in History and I teach in college. But that was ironically rather funny.

I dont have to do anything for you. If you want to know, study it, investigate. Use the gray matter you have behind your eyes, which is btw right now doing nothing - put it work.

Its not "home work" man... grow up. I'm trying to make you think for yourself. Try it. You just deny everything I say and yet you havent done any research, all you did was a ridiculous thread and even after ppl try hard to open your eyes, you choose to stand by your lack of knowledge and defend it like your life depends on it. Well... maybe it does.

And I have no agenda... "templar".


Claiming to be a professor,or having academia credentials means absolutly nothing.
The problem as stated before.........
Many have no problem demonizing America,when it suites their agenda. And agenda there is.

BTW,nice Avatar.........assassin.

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posted on Feb, 14 2012 @ 07:41 PM
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TIL about Nazi Muslim terrorist extremists, and that they exist...

on Valentine's Day of all days.

Thanks Seabag.



posted on Feb, 14 2012 @ 07:45 PM
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Originally posted by seabag

Originally posted by WozaMeathed
You Americans are the new nazi's.
Dont you read your history.
Or are you just Ignorant to the fact that your post WW2 America is built by the Nazi's and their way of life.
You Americans stole all the Nazi's you wanted from germany at the end of WW2 to build the modern America.



I'm shocked that you’re going to stick with “Americans are Nazis” garbage? OK, just ignore the truth if you must.


Nazism held a genuine appeal for the Arab populace, who were attracted to its messages of rejection of democracy, recovery of past military glory and Jew-hating. In 1935, Reza Shah, the ruler of Persia, changed the country's name from Persia to Iran to reflect that they, like the Nazis, were Aryans. A popular Arab song during the war went, "Allah in heaven, Hitler on earth."

The historic Nazi connection to today's Islamic terrorism is Haj Amin al-Husseini, the grand Mufti of Jerusalem. He became a Nazi agent after meeting Adolf Eichmann, an architect of the Holocaust, in Palestine in 1937, and with Nazi funds organized the Arab Revolt of 1936-39 which led to the British closing Palestine to Jewish immigration. This facilitated the "Final Solution" by closing off the avenue of refuge. In 1941, the mufti orchestrated a short-lived, Nazi-backed generals' coup in Iraq. One of the participants in that coup, Gen. Khayrallah Tulfah, was Saddam Hussein's uncle and mentor.

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Prescott Bush?

OSS?

trading with the enemies act?

IBM

Coca cola..

Fanta?

Warner Von Brown?

Space race?

V Rockets?

aren't you proud to be an American that had a NAZI build rockets for us?

anything ring a bell?

or is this just a "lets get Iran for Israel thread"?

and then play the Nazi card..

really dude?

because there are just as many Nazi ties to both your former President's of the USA?

are you sure you don't want to go to the Israeli Army?

so you can go beat up their enemies for them?



posted on Feb, 14 2012 @ 07:52 PM
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Actually... I am a professor. I'm graduated in History and I teach in college. But that was ironically rather funny.


Well you aren’t doing a good job at making your points!!



I dont have to do anything for you. If you want to know, study it, investigate. Use the gray matter you have behind your eyes, which is btw right now doing nothing - put it work.


Ejumacate me, professor. You can’t just jump onto a thread with opinion and expect to be taken seriously. The Bush connection you’re eluding to is played out…if you have new info (or any info at all) please share.


Its not "home work" man... grow up. I'm trying to make you think for yourself. Try it. You just deny everything I say and yet you havent done any research, all you did was a ridiculous thread and even after ppl try hard to open your eyes, you choose to stand by your lack of knowledge and defend it like your life depends on it. Well... maybe it does.

And I have no agenda... "templar".


Your arguments are both superficial and ambiguous as you fail to elaborate or back up your rhetoric, professor!


Try harder…that’s all I ask!


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posted on Feb, 14 2012 @ 07:56 PM
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Oh really?





Good news...

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posted on Feb, 14 2012 @ 08:05 PM
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If you search the fourth reich you can find many pages claiming after the war, or near the end several of the top ss branch realised the war could not be won from all sides as hitler wanted. They began to draw up plans, for a economic recovery, using the same illict methods used to bring them out of a recession, before the war. They decided the best way to gain control of the world was through the economy, and many of the officals, would "dissapear" into some of the friendly countries like argentina. The war would continue to be fought, however knowing they would lose, the generals would not be in berlin. This would give credence, to people who say they saw hitler in argentina, and why so many germans defected to america, and russia. Whilst some just dissapeared, The plan according to the the documents was that the reich would dissapear, germany would pay debts, several lesser generals would face trial. After which germany would recover to be the world economic leader, eventually seek to create, the eu, the un, and nato. Gaining control of the world through economy, and getting countries to work together not realising who actually put them there. Then eventually when the next reccession hit they could dicate to countries how they should run thier economy, over time this would mean complete control.Because of riots nato forces would patrol the streets "peacekeeping". Then when the correct figure head came about, the fourth reich would rise again, creating a unifed empire.


The specifics of this currently, are of course speculative, know one actually knows if anyone has followed on the fourth reich objective. However this would be more realistic than the "illuminati" theory, who nows maybe the illuminati is disinformation, to put people of the fourth reich trail. The one thing that gets me is i just dont see how the fourth reich would come out as the reich, and why any country would ally with them. The only thing i can think is the nazis did have some form of "power" which made hitler so persuasive, and germans strong. Lets not forget even though they lost the battle they literally took on the world more or less single handedly, its accepted if they reached a stale mate with russia they could have won. So who knows maybe they are waiting for another powerful emperor to appear on the world stage.


This would all work alongside the when the world is in the crapper financially a war, will make it better, which is a theory about ww2 and how hitler was actually a puppet of the jews, and had jewish blood. They just wanted him to start a war, for profit and thus once in power began his hatred for them.

Link provided to the fourth reich plan

www.dailymail.co.uk...



posted on Feb, 14 2012 @ 08:09 PM
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aren't you proud to be an American that had a NAZI build rockets for us?


Hell YA!!! Every country wanted that technology and the U.S. GOT IT!! Sucks to come in second!!!


really dude?

because there are just as many Nazi ties to both your former President's of the USA?



Really Dude? The Nazis have been gone for 60 years??? Unless you're talking about the Nazi traditions carried on by the Iranians. Please elaborate!



are you sure you don't want to go to the Israeli Army?

so you can go beat up their enemies for them?


Israel’s enemies are US enemies. Peaceful people stick together, just as fanatical dictators stick together (Saddam, Chavez, Jong IL, Ahmadinejad, Assad, etc, etc).

Such is life….

Did you have a point?



posted on Feb, 14 2012 @ 08:13 PM
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Great post.

I remember reading about how Hitler may have escaped Germany, faked his own death & had escaped to Argentina where he spent the rest of his years there...

Not too sure how much truth there is to all of it, but I think you're definitely on to something.

Especially how "Illuminati" has become so mainstream, it does make me wonder a lot about what the agenda actually is..



posted on Feb, 14 2012 @ 08:38 PM
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Originally posted by SmoKeyHaZe
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Great post.

I remember reading about how Hitler may have escaped Germany, faked his own death & had escaped to Argentina where he spent the rest of his years there...

Not too sure how much truth there is to all of it, but I think you're definitely on to something.

Especially how "Illuminati" has become so mainstream, it does make me wonder a lot about what the agenda actually is..



Thank you very much, you know ive done loads of researching of the third reich because without a doubt, they were one of the most powerful and yet short lived "empires" of history. Theres actually more refernces to a "new reich" than the idea of the "bell" and other top secret projects.

The one thing that gets me every time, is hitler to me seems beyond a man, i mean if you actually sit and watch hour and hour of his speechs, even just for research you kind of "feel" something, like if i was german at the time, i could imagine how easy it was to follow him blindly. One of the other intruiging things is that one of hitlers mentors , Dietrich Eckhart (whom Hitler dedicates Mein Kampf to), wrote to a friend of his in 1923: "Follow Hitler! He will dance, but it is I who have called the tune. We have given him the 'means of communication' with Them. Do not mourn for me; I shall have influenced history more than any other German."

Whilst this could have possibly just been refernce to mentoring him, he said hitler was going to be the saviour of germany. anyway off topic i go lol.


Point being, even without looking at outer space, things like the nazis and the spear of destiny and all that jazz, could lead you on a lifelong quest for answers, and i dont think youd get the truth even if you spoke to hitler personally. Half of the power came from mystery i guess, i mean our own soldiers were a bit scared of them some even called them not human and greys and machine men lol



posted on Feb, 14 2012 @ 08:38 PM
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I didnt do any Bush connection... and whats "ejumacate"?

EDIT: The nazis have been gone? hm... and for 60 years you say... curious. You clearly have no idea what you're talking about.
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EDIT2: Oh Seabag... see that guy that posted before me? You should really learn a thing or two from him. Since I could bet you dont even know whos dietrich eckart or what he did. Know the Thule at least? Iran... the nazis. Man you're so far off the mark it hurts to read you.
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posted on Feb, 14 2012 @ 08:59 PM
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PLEASE READ THIS AND ALSO READ THE LINKS BELOW......... I have read and now see the truth regarding Iran and Germany during WW2 and the lead up to it . Seabag , sonnny1 you were 100% correct......kudos to you both.



Editored by Major von Viban of the Political Department of the NADPA in Berlin, the very year (1933) Hitler took power the Third Reich began to publish a racist magazine titled lran-e Bastan (The Ancient Iran). The journal was financed by Siemens-Schukken and a pro-Nazi Iranian intellectuals.

Advocating the common Aryan ancestry of 'the two Nations.' In 1936 then, the Reich Cabinet issued a special decree exempting Iranians from the restrictions of the Nuremberg Racial Laws on the grounds that they were 'pure blooded Aryans' (Lenczowski. 1944, p. 160). And in 1939, the Nazis provided Persians with what they called a German Scientific Library. The library contained over 7.500 books carefully selected "to convince lranian readers...of the kinship between the National Socialist Reich and the "Aryan culture" of Iran" (Lenczowski. 1944, p. 161). In various pro-Nazi publications, lectures, speeches, and ceremonies, parallels were drawn between the Shah of Iran and Hitler, and praise the charisma and virtue of the Fuhrerprinzip

Hitler became a national hero of Iranians and all so-called 'oppressed Aryan peoples. For instance, a journal titled "Nameh-ye Iran-e Bastan" (the Journal of Ancient Iran) identified Hitler as "one of the greatest men in the world": Adolph Hitler, this great scholarly man of the Aryan race, has destroyed a 200-years old plan of the Jews against nationality in the world, against nationalism, and particularly the Aryan races on earth...and has created a new day for the new world.

Regarding the Nazi symbol of the swastika, the journal wrote in issue 28, Mordad,1933: It is truly rejoicing to see that the symbol of Iran from 2000 years before Christ has today become a symbol of pride for the Germans, who are of one race and ethnicity with us

Again, in issue 35, Mehr 1333, in an article titled "Why We Are Superior?" the journal wrote: the sign of Aryan triumph (swastika) is everywhere Aryan and respectable, be it on ceramics of Isfahan's Masjid-e Shah or on the columnn of Darvazeh Dovlat in Tehran; or be it placed on the flag of Germany or embellish the arm of Hitler:' From ancient times the Black dress has been an exclusive property of the Iranic race.

In fact the ideology of Aryan racial superiority was nurtured and advocated by a vast majority of Persian elites and intellectuals.

During the 1930's members of the Iranian Nazi Party.Hitler's interest in the Aryan homeland would have him and the Shah of Iran change the name to Persia at this time to Iran which in Persian translates to Land of the Aryans.The following image is of the Iranian National Socialist Party.

www.militaryphotos.net...

Since the turn of the century, Iran had maintained a cautious policy of courting foreign governments as third powers to balance the influence exerted by the British and Russians. By 1939 that policy had resulted in Germany surpassing Russia as Iran's major trading partner. The economic facts, coupled with rumors and suspicion surrounding the large German enclaves in Iran; and Reza Shah's open admiration of Hitler's Aryan race propaganda, provided the pretext for a joint Soviet and British invasion of Iran on the 25th of August 1941

www.iranian.com...

Ahmadinejad regrets the fact that Nazi Germany and its anti-Semitic "Führer" (leader) Adolf Hitler were defeated in World War II. Not Nazi Germany but its victors were "wicked". No wonder neo-Nazis and Holocaust deniers from all over the world are welcome guests in Tehran. Some European neo-Nazis even fled to Iran after they had been indicted in their home countries; and a notorious French Holocaust denier named Roger Garaudy was interviewed on Iranian television, together with Iran's spiritual leader Ali Khamenei (1998)


www.militantislammonitor.org...

Why is the Bundestag Courting Iran?

www.defenddemocracy.org...

www.enciclopedia.com.pt...



posted on Feb, 14 2012 @ 09:14 PM
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Are you mocking me?



posted on Feb, 14 2012 @ 09:25 PM
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Originally posted by R3velutionR3quired
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Are you mocking me?


Of course not. I was telling them to learn from you, since they clearly lack the competence to think for themselves... you had to do their work.

Nice job on your posts. Seriously.



posted on Feb, 14 2012 @ 09:30 PM
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I think he's talking to Seabag, & only referencing your previous post.

2nd



posted on Feb, 14 2012 @ 09:35 PM
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Originally posted by FraternitasSaturni

Originally posted by R3velutionR3quired
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Are you mocking me?


Of course not. I was telling them to learn from you, since they clearly lack the competence to think for themselves... you had to do their work.

Nice job on your posts. Seriously.


Thanks lol one can never be too sure on ats as im sure you know haha, anyway the thing thats bugged me is the way people talk about the vril society, when i cannot find any real evidence on that "party" itself or the substance beyond the book in 1871 which even then was considered sci fi, even though i believe hitler may have thought it true, he disbanded the thule society why would he believe in that, unless he was trying to "bury" evidence.

Any ideas?



posted on Feb, 14 2012 @ 09:37 PM
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Originally posted by Droidinvoid


I think you've provided some rather interesting links

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posted on Feb, 14 2012 @ 09:45 PM
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Btw can anyone answer me this, the first time in the modern world, a massive white power movement with deep seeted occultist and religous beliefs, attempts to take over the world. They let this man have credence in history books surley in a fashion gives him his 1000 yr 3rd reich, as people will remember as they remember ceaser or stalin. As jfk said he had the stuff of which legends were made ans history will remember his name eternity.
Dont get me wrong, if anything im pro truth, and kind of think well maybe mankind will learn from our mistakes. Although one could say seeing as there is a history of aristaocrices, dictators and wars and extreme persecution, even from religous people, surely some people read and see these, "emperors" and desire to be them. Also in granting them a page/chapter in history, your giving credence that what they did was worthy, as im sure there is no book mentioning every dead man stalin killed or every jew hitler killed, and chroniciling there life, and no games made showing them "call of duty lol".

Its like what people say about serial killers, everyone remembers the name ed gien, but only a few could name but one of his victims.



posted on Feb, 14 2012 @ 09:57 PM
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This would all work alongside the when the world is in the crapper financially a war, will make it better, which is a theory about ww2 and how hitler was actually a puppet of the jews, and had jewish blood. They just wanted him to start a war, for profit and thus once in power began his hatred for them.


Hitler was a puppet of the Jews??

Yet he killed over a million Jews?

That’s one hell of an unbelievable conspiracy!


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