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Originally posted by Amadeus
Hi Byrd:
Thanks for taking the trouble to verify some of my statements. I wish there were more people like you on these litle threadlets....
I only mention all of this Jewish Ritual imagery is rarely recognised or ever talked about among "Christians" ----naturally---and since you seem to be in the habit of looking things up to verify my claims, I thought I'd give yoiu some homework to do......!.
Originally posted by Amadeus
The book has been "reapplied" to every single generation by "believers" ever since, mainly because the promises in the book (i.e. the plagues of Egypt descending upon Rome for daring to kill the Chosen People etc.) never in fact happened. Once it finally got "voted into the New Testament" after AD 485 and became an official part of the western canon of the NT, people began treating this messy originally Jewish hotchpotch as "the word of God" and feel that somehow there is something eternally prophetic in it---i.e. since it talks about the LAST DAYS etc. and people (especially Christians) have re-applied "ERETZ ISRAEL" (the Land of Israel, translated into Greek as KOSMOS, i.e. World or earth) in a more universal fashion.
But just about every single reference in the Apocalypse can be understood in the context of the 1st Jewish War (AD 66-72) including the Year of the 4 Emperors (AD 69 NERO + VITELLIUS + OTHO + GALBA)
Originally posted by BeMoreCynical
During Roman occupation it was illegal for citizens to criticise the Roman leadership. If the Jews wanted to criticize, they would have to invent a code language. Babylon for instance was the code for the Roman Empire. The Whore of Babylon would be the name for the Caesar. The heads of the beast would be representative of the power structure of the Roman Empire.
Originally posted by Amadeus
If Nero was in fact the original object of the name of the "BEAST", then we can date the book safely during the 1st Jewish War of AD 66-AD72. This would be known as a PRETERIST understanding.
Originally posted by Byrd
A failed prophecy is just wishful thinking or a dream. It surely isn't prophecy.
Originally posted by bet555
But it is just a jumber that is supposedly the mark of the beast you are supposed to have to wear it on your forehead one day to be able to eat and everything.
Originally posted by LadyV
Originally posted by bet555
But it is just a number that is supposedly the mark of the beast you are supposed to have to wear it on your forehead one day to be able to eat and everything.
No it's not...........the bible says that 666 is the mark of a
man NOT the mark of the beast!
Now the "MARK" of the beast, is another matter... although it originates with the man/beast who is marked by this number. It pertains to the "agenda" of this man/beast as he seeks to have the whole world deceived into worshipping him. (Except God's people of course.)
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Another irony which Muslims fail to realize is this: Mohammed referred many times over of the Day of Judgement which would come upon all who "are not of The Book". Muslins maintain that this Book is The Koran and therefore those who do not follow the Koran are worthy of death. To put it very bluntly, Muslims are so blinded by this idea, that they do not even take into account the fact that the Koran was not written until after Mohammed death. The Book Mohammed spoke of (having heard stories of it) was the Book of Life as in Revelation 17:8, not the Koran which didn't exist at the time.