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posted on Feb, 14 2012 @ 03:17 PM
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Your first quoted portion is just wrong, but your second quoted portion is pretty accurate.

Why would Masonry and Christianity be mutually exclusive? You don't have to believe Christ is the only way to heaven to eat at Taco Bell, but you can believe that, no one is stopping you.

A man can believe exactly as you have posted, and be a fundamental Christian with no gray area whatsoever, and he can still be a Mason, as long as he recognizes other people's right to believe differently. Masons are not demanding that other Masons believe any certain way.

No Mason is saying you cannot believe Christ is the only way. Believe whatever you want, just don't expect anyone else to necessarily believe the same thing.




posted on Feb, 14 2012 @ 03:25 PM
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Originally posted by OldHag
How comes it that so many people are member of the Freemasonry and even they be Christians?

Because there is nothing in Freemasonry that contradicts my Christian faith.



posted on Feb, 14 2012 @ 03:34 PM
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I never had the power of the mind and I am thirty-two.
Why? Dunno...

Maybe I am a cowan.
Does that mean I am cowan? Is cowan the polite way of calling someone a coward?

Will I ever be a thirty-two level master freemason?



posted on Feb, 14 2012 @ 03:49 PM
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A cowan is a non Mason who tries to gain admittance into a Lodge at work. I assume that you haven't done that or you'd have an interesting story to tell!



posted on Feb, 14 2012 @ 04:09 PM
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Cowan has many meanings depending on where you are at. Cowan in Masonry I believe derives from "imposter".



posted on Feb, 14 2012 @ 04:15 PM
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Interesting...
It is apparent that I have not tried that yet.
But on a quick heads up. If I do try this cowan thing, will I have to fight to the death, or will I hacked to pieces by the Masonic Sword of Justice???



posted on Feb, 14 2012 @ 04:31 PM
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Just hacked to pieces. Nothing bad.


You'll just be asked to leave.



posted on Feb, 14 2012 @ 04:40 PM
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Originally posted by Pinocchio
But on a quick heads up. If I do try this cowan thing, will I have to fight to the death, or will I hacked to pieces by the Masonic Sword of Justice???


Most likely you will get an unhealthy dose of tetanus resultant from being jabbed by a rusty Tyler's sword.



posted on Feb, 14 2012 @ 05:54 PM
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As the others said, it would be a failed attempt...you'd never make it past the Tyler without a dues card and someone to vouch for you.



posted on Feb, 14 2012 @ 06:11 PM
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Mat 6:24 No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.

This is for the Christians... and NOT for the dead people! For so far I see only reaction by members or somewhat who belong by the masons and have not any faith!!



posted on Feb, 14 2012 @ 06:15 PM
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..or to say different... keep on topic! It wonders me that ATS not shut their mouth... oh no.. that's wrong .. it's not wonder me at all.Forgive them Father.. they don't know what they're doing.



posted on Feb, 14 2012 @ 06:56 PM
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Originally posted by OldHag
This is for the Christians... and NOT for the dead people!


Then what are you doing here?



posted on Feb, 14 2012 @ 07:09 PM
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My apology for my off topic replies to an off topic post. Why would your post not include everyone? Why preachonly to the choir sister? I am an Orthodox Christian and also a Freemason.



posted on Feb, 14 2012 @ 07:10 PM
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Originally posted by OldHag
Mat 6:24 No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.

This is for the Christians... and NOT for the dead people! For so far I see only reaction by members or somewhat who belong by the masons and have not any faith!!


So this is a "who has the most faith" competition now? I dare you to go read any of my posts about my infant son, and my nights of prayer, and God's answers to me.

One does not have to call their self a Christian to have faith, and God is available for conversation at any time, and in my experience he always answers, but we aren't always listening, and we don't always like the answer so we ignore it.

And, for the record, I don't serve any Masters. God knows this. I do not worship. I respect, I acknowledge, I seek wisdom and guidance, and I convey gratitude, but I do not serve, nor worship. What kind of Supreme Being would want that anyway? I'm only human, and I don't want any one serving me. I want self-responsible partners involved in my life by their own free will and accord, I don't want servants, and I don't believe God wants servants either.



posted on Feb, 14 2012 @ 10:21 PM
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Who serves two Masters? Freemasons don't.

OldHag, am I correct in assuming you're a woman?


Originally posted by OldHag
Forgive them Father.. they don't know what they're doing.

I don't need you to speak for me, I know exactly what I'm doing.



posted on Feb, 15 2012 @ 05:06 AM
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From my own perspective - I am a Freemason and Master of my lodge. I am also a Christian and I have found that Freemasonry increased my faith and understanding of Christ's teaching.

Speaking only for myself, I believe that Freemasonry and Christianity complement each other very well. I feel like I am a more tolerant, more forgiving, more faithful person.

I understand that many Christians feel uneasy about Freemasonry. I certainly don't think it's for everyone, but for me it's helped understand why ideas like "Faith, Hope and Charity" are so important.



posted on Feb, 15 2012 @ 05:11 AM
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I read once, and I can't remember who wrote it, that God doesn't really need to be reminded of his "goodness" by praise and worship. He would much rather we put the effort into showing each other unconditional love.



posted on Feb, 15 2012 @ 12:03 PM
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off-topic post removed to prevent thread-drift


 



posted on Feb, 15 2012 @ 12:16 PM
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Originally posted by OldHag
Off Topic!


If you do not want off-topic replies to your off-topic snide comments then maybe you should not be making off-topic snide comments to start with.



posted on Feb, 15 2012 @ 12:28 PM
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I believe your intensions maybe to expose and lead them Masons from the Masonic Lodge though you can't make them drink it.

I believe in God, Jesus Christ & The Holy Ghost.

Here is the Title of the Home Page of the Link I posted earlier:

How can you lead Masons away
from the Masonic Lodge?

Source

I guess no one picked up on it or didn't want to say anything...

I believe coming from a humble place is more effective then beating them over the head that there behavior is wrong. Though I don't believe they follow what any woman would say. With that said let me make it clear I'm a woman. Tomboyish at times but female in every other aspect.

I take the subject seriously and will admit to trying to have some fun it with it too. Sorry if I offended anyone. Peace.




edit on 15-2-2012 by relocator because: Corrected spelling





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