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Why not forgive everyone?

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posted on Feb, 17 2012 @ 10:44 PM
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Though I have not read every post (forgive me), only the first couple of pages, I am getting a strong impression most of the posters believe forgiveness is for the benefit of the perpetrator when in fact it is for yourself. There is no benefit to the perpetrators only to self.You do not have to forget the wrongs done to you, but for self need to let go of the pain, anger and hate. Forgiveness allows you to cleanse your soul.
If you can image your life in a line, the beginning your birth, the end your death, in between, physical and emotional growth. Periods along your lifeline where you have been traumatized by hurt, pain, or betrayal we get stuck emotionally. We physically grow older but emotionally become stunted at that spot in our lives. When we learn to forgive (not forget) allows us to continue to grow emotionally along our lifeline. I wish everyone the ability to forgive, to wash away the ills of our past and to move forward with the time we are given.
peace,
brice




posted on Feb, 18 2012 @ 01:07 AM
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Originally posted by ButtUglyToad

Originally posted by LastProphet527

Your not suppose to forgive, it’s no such thing as real forgiveness, and to trick your self into forgiving some one for what they did to you is an abomination ,not only to you, but your soul as well.



Spoken like a true Sheeple!


Baaaaaaaaaaad! Baaaaaaaaaaad! Baaaaaaaaaaad!

Ribbit



Let prophet express himself without a troll'n toad'n comment. He is going against conventional wisdom in expressing his view so he is not being a "sheeple."

Nixon said in his farewell address, "Always give your best, never get discouraged, never be petty; always remember, others may hate you, but those who hate you don't win unless you hate them, and then you destroy yourself." That advice can be applied for harboring ill feelings in general toward others, and why conventional wisdom says it's always best to forgive. With that said I'm thinking prophet is expressing the idea that you should not forget the trespasses of others against you as one must maintain their guard to help prevent further trespasses, (such as I loan my tools out to a friend who pawns them, and so I will not loan the person anything else in the future so I don't get ripped off again) but to let go of ill feelings that only serve to destroy yourself overtime with obsessive malcontent.



posted on Feb, 18 2012 @ 01:30 AM
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Originally posted by LilDudeissocool

Originally posted by ButtUglyToad

Originally posted by LastProphet527

Your not suppose to forgive, it’s no such thing as real forgiveness, and to trick your self into forgiving some one for what they did to you is an abomination ,not only to you, but your soul as well.



Spoken like a true Sheeple!


Baaaaaaaaaaad! Baaaaaaaaaaad! Baaaaaaaaaaad!

Ribbit



Let prophet express himself without a troll'n toad'n comment. He is going against conventional wisdom in expressing his view so he is not being a "sheeple."

Nixon said in his farewell address, "Always give your best, never get discouraged, never be petty; always remember, others may hate you, but those who hate you don't win unless you hate them, and then you destroy yourself." That advice can be applied for harboring ill feelings in general toward others, and why conventional wisdom says it's always best to forgive. With that said I'm thinking prophet is expressing the idea that you should not forget the trespasses of others against you as one must maintain their guard to help prevent further trespasses, (such as I loan my tools out to a friend who pawns them, and so I will not loan the person anything else in the future so I don't get ripped off again) but to let go of ill feelings that only serve to destroy yourself overtime with obsessive malcontent.



That's your problem, you are conventional, which means you follow the crowd, which is a sheeple.


Ribbit



posted on Feb, 18 2012 @ 03:11 AM
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Originally posted by ButtUglyToad
Let's dew the math . . .

You can only open your mouth to prove your truths.

eYe point to facts of the Universe to prove the truth.

While your mouth is constantly open is a fact, that doesn't make what comes out of it a fact.

Ribbit


calling ur rubbish insults to anything space, facts of universe being a stupid chick u can abuse by claiming being superior male that know it all, is proving that u r the mouth dirt object serving fully to evil liars freedom that u dont even deserve the title of slave to

mister people that i belong to are who never use their body to mean anything they act absolutely real for themselves and for objective right stands



posted on Feb, 18 2012 @ 04:01 AM
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posted on Feb, 18 2012 @ 04:05 AM
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Originally posted by brice
forgiveness is for the benefit of yourself. There is no benefit to the perpetrators only to self.


this is exactly the open wide gate to evil powers on all existence rights

yourself is all to u, it is not an entity to invent and reduce to emotionnal reactionnal ways of subjective being

individuality is not urself while it is to true existence sense resolved in absolute positive terms of objective reality
facts

killing the concept of reality in ur mind while meaning to invent urself according to subjective experiences is exactly what evil powers want u to do, in order to possess all existence rights through lies pretenses and objective intelligence abuse, by reducing truth constant value to negative nothing but subjects miserable reactions means



posted on Feb, 18 2012 @ 04:15 AM
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posted on Feb, 18 2012 @ 03:35 PM
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I've read your post 3 times, are you using a language translator, cause what you say makes not sense.
Thank you for taking the time to read and respond to my post.
cheers,
brice



posted on Feb, 18 2012 @ 03:44 PM
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Sometimes, you just can't forgive someone.

Its not necessarily a bad thing to embrace the dark side of humanity. Hell, I've embraced mine for the better part of 20 years now. Sometimes, hate is the only thing that can get you through.

Call it ego, mental illness or whatever you want, but it's only being human.



posted on Feb, 18 2012 @ 03:52 PM
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It's a personal matter and it is ultimately up to you. For me, I don't hold actions against people unless it directly harms others. I simply try to separate myself from those kind of people and hope to help them realize how they are wrong if possible.



posted on Feb, 18 2012 @ 05:31 PM
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Originally posted by ButtUglyToad

Originally posted by LilDudeissocool

Originally posted by ButtUglyToad

Originally posted by LastProphet527

Your not suppose to forgive, it’s no such thing as real forgiveness, and to trick your self into forgiving some one for what they did to you is an abomination ,not only to you, but your soul as well.



Spoken like a true Sheeple!


Baaaaaaaaaaad! Baaaaaaaaaaad! Baaaaaaaaaaad!



Ribbit



Let prophet express himself without a troll'n toad'n comment. He is going against conventional wisdom in expressing his view so he is not being a "sheeple."

Nixon said in his farewell address, "Always give your best, never get discouraged, never be petty; always remember, others may hate you, but those who hate you don't win unless you hate them, and then you destroy yourself." That advice can be applied for harboring ill feelings in general toward others, and why conventional wisdom says it's always best to forgive. With that said I'm thinking prophet is expressing the idea that you should not forget the trespasses of others against you as one must maintain their guard to help prevent further trespasses, (such as I loan my tools out to a friend who pawns them, and so I will not loan the person anything else in the future so I don't get ripped off again) but to let go of ill feelings that only serve to destroy yourself overtime with obsessive malcontent.



That's your problem, you are conventional, which means you follow the crowd, which is a sheeple.


Ribbit



So you always go against the grain of conventional wisdom just for the sake of going against the grain?

You sound like a real logical thinker.



posted on Feb, 18 2012 @ 06:01 PM
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Originally posted by LilDudeissocool

Originally posted by ButtUglyToad

That's your problem, you are conventional, which means you follow the crowd, which is a sheeple.


Ribbit



So you always go against the grain of conventional wisdom just for the sake of going against the grain?

You sound like a real logical thinker.




eYe go against the grain when the grain is wrong.


Conventional Wisdom is based on Conventional Thinking, which is based on this Matrix and this Matrix is a Construct kNot of the Truth. But that doesn't mean all Conventional Thinking/Wisdom is wrong. Sum is on the money but most isn't, most is backwards of the Truth and eYe base that on the Truth.

But no matter what, it doesn't matter what you or anyone else thinks the Truth is, because the underlying (eYe don't like that werd) Truth is, it doesn't matter. kNot a single Soul has ever been hurt in the making of these Matrices and whether you figure out the Truth now or kNot, doesn't matter. When you wake up back at Source, after your person has finished it's purpose here, completed its role, then you will know the Truth and that's the only time it really matters.
However, for sum of us, We give a chit now and regardless what the Truth is, We have to know it and for those, they are true free-thinkers, for they are willing to think inside the box, outside the box, and within the box itself. Those mYnds can be freed from this Matrix, the rest of you are prisoners to it and the only freedom you will ever taste is death.
But death is only the re-beginning of the past, but you never play the same person/thing twice, for nothing occupies the same space twice.


Sew you have to ask yourself:

Red Pill or Blue Pill?


Dew you really want to know the Truth or are you like 99% of the peeps on ATS, you are here to spread your Truth and to find like minded thinkers to flock with? eYe stand alone, on my own two feet, agreeing with that which is correct and disagreeing with that which is kNot, regardless who it is, for eYe stand with the Truth.


Ribbit



posted on Feb, 18 2012 @ 06:46 PM
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Originally posted by BlesUTP
Sometimes, you just can't forgive someone.

Its not necessarily a bad thing to embrace the dark side of humanity. Hell, I've embraced mine for the better part of 20 years now. Sometimes, hate is the only thing that can get you through.

Call it ego, mental illness or whatever you want, but it's only being human.


u r being the misconception of hate, the confusion in minds between hate and darkness is a lie

hate is simply the rejection of objective fact or existing reality, it is never about oneself

and that is why hate ways in negative situations is much superior to love ways

by hating objectively what u hate perceiving u r loving smthg out of objective so smthg of urself, that can make u reach to realize urself in much more constant positive terms

while by loving objectively what u hate perceiving is hating smthg out of urself, so always being dependant on others when u cant b then urself one

and this what evil powers want



posted on Feb, 18 2012 @ 08:03 PM
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You have mixed up logical consensus after being vetted by peer review with moneyed dissimulated propaganda, Toad.



posted on Feb, 18 2012 @ 08:47 PM
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Originally posted by LilDudeissocool
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You have mixed up logical consensus after being vetted by peer review with moneyed dissimulated propaganda, Toad.



eYe use kNot consensual anything, it is you that is guilty of that.

eYe base everything on the Truth of the Universe, the Truth of God/Source, sew eYe have back-doored your world with the Universe, which is basic Algebra. You have figured out whatever you have figured out, base on this world and when wrong is the teacher, wrong is the student, and two wrongs don't make a right.


This world is a Construct, specifically designed to be wrong and in most spots, it's backwards, and you are a perfect example of that backwardsness.


Ribbit



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posted on Feb, 18 2012 @ 09:08 PM
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people normally can't forgive because of pain,anger,fear, and point of view or belief. i mean if we (imho) did the right thing and forgave people personally and as a whole where would all our time and money go for the hateand weapons we use to kill people?



posted on Feb, 19 2012 @ 08:18 PM
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Originally posted by ButtUglyToad

Originally posted by LilDudeissocool
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You have mixed up logical consensus after being vetted by peer review with moneyed dissimulated propaganda, Toad.



eYe use kNot consensual anything, it is you that is guilty of that.

eYe base everything on the Truth of the Universe, the Truth of God/Source, sew eYe have back-doored your world with the Universe, which is basic Algebra. You have figured out whatever you have figured out, base on this world and when wrong is the teacher, wrong is the student, and two wrongs don't make a right.


This world is a Construct, specifically designed to be wrong and in most spots, it's backwards, and you are a perfect example of that backwardsness.


Ribbit



edit on 18-2-2012 by ButtUglyToad because: (no reason given)



What convoluted nonsenses.
You must just write whatever pops into your head, and its absolute gibberish.


Presidents Day weekend must be treating you pretty good. Let me guess, you're a federal employee living it up on this extended holiday.

I swear I've posted with you before. Moonscribe I think may have been one of your nics a few years back.



posted on Feb, 19 2012 @ 08:42 PM
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Originally posted by LilDudeissocool

Originally posted by ButtUglyToad

Originally posted by LilDudeissocool
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You have mixed up logical consensus after being vetted by peer review with moneyed dissimulated propaganda, Toad.



eYe use kNot consensual anything, it is you that is guilty of that.

eYe base everything on the Truth of the Universe, the Truth of God/Source, sew eYe have back-doored your world with the Universe, which is basic Algebra. You have figured out whatever you have figured out, base on this world and when wrong is the teacher, wrong is the student, and two wrongs don't make a right.


This world is a Construct, specifically designed to be wrong and in most spots, it's backwards, and you are a perfect example of that backwardsness.


Ribbit




What convoluted nonsenses.
You must just write whatever pops into your head, and its absolute gibberish.


Presidents Day weekend must be treating you pretty good. Let me guess, you're a federal employee living it up on this extended holiday.

I swear I've posted with you before. Moonscribe I think may have been one of your nics a few years back.



What mathematical idiosyncrasies you are full of!


You must write whatever has been implanted in your head for it's absolute idiotology.


eYe have no job, sew eYe werk for no one but eYe.


This is my only username eYe've had on ATS sew you have me mixed up with sumone else, just as you think your Snarks are Snarks, when they are Boojums disguised as Snarks.


Ribbit



posted on Feb, 20 2012 @ 12:05 AM
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All nuts roll together so its hard to distinguish one from the other.



posted on Feb, 20 2012 @ 12:14 AM
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Hey, wait a minute, You said you are a scuba instructor. Isn't that a job?



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