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Syrian Military using Nerve Gas on Protestors

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posted on Feb, 13 2012 @ 05:58 PM
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Non-conventional war in Syria? Security forces loyal to President Bashar Assad have been using chemical weapons against Syrian rebels, under the supervision of Iranian and Russian experts, a defecting Syrian officer charged Monday.





SANAA, Yemen — Doctors from the scene of violent anti-government protests in Yemen’s capital Tuesday night said that what was originally thought to be tear gas fired by government forces on demonstrators might instead have been a form of nerve gas, which is forbidden under international law.


www.globalpost.com...
www.ynetnews.com...



Well, U.S provided the Saddam regime nerve has in the 80's user, correct?.. I believe hundreds were killed by this deadly agent.

We live in such a stereotypical world, it hurts.
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posted on Feb, 13 2012 @ 06:06 PM
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Wow... Talk about a potential BOMBSHELL development. Now first, I'll say one thing with this moving into the realm of World military action and not just a peacekeeping game anymore.

Syrian Rebels, in my mind, are of totally UNKOWN origin and support. The U.S. supports some....but so does Hamas, Hezbollah and Al Qaeda. These are mutually exclusive groups, to say the VERY least and at one point or another, everyone is trying to ride the rebels into helping form the new Syrian leadership. Why does this matter? I don't believe a damn thing they say without MAJOR corroboration.

The problem is..I don't believe Assad either. As a man, he's scum and a troll of the first order. As a leader, he's under siege from all directions and has been now for well over a year of nwear constant unrest and international covert efforts to kill or remove him personally.

Nerve Gas? *IF* That is confirmed and proven by evidence of REAL cannisters with REAL Nerve Agent in them....or the bodies of victims or survivors to establish this beyond any question...then hell with it and hell with Assad. *NOW* I believe it's justified to go TAKE his nation from him and kill him under Syrian or International law. The use of Nuclear, Chemical or Biological weapons are among the ONLY things I can see to justify invading a nation over it's internal matters, but it sure is a good reason.

Now..... Before we run out to go cheer on the Marines and Navy...lets be 300% and totally certain beyond *ANY* doubt of *ANY* kind *WHATSOEVER* that the story is real, the Nerve agent is REAL and the victims are REAL. If all checks out? It's time to go arrest or kill Assad...and lets not waste time about it.


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posted on Feb, 13 2012 @ 06:09 PM
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Nerve gas has a shelf life....you cant really stock pile it effectively i dont think....
If this is true, the russians must have supplied it or the Iranians...
None of Saddams old crap would be anything but sludge now....i wouldnt drink it but it wouldnt be nerve gas anymore...
This is perhaps a gift from mother russia in the form of the carrier and escort drppoing into tartus lately...or perhaps that frieghter the turks stopped and let go....
This will be reason for interventionif true, and that makes me very suspicious of the report.....
lets see the corpses.....lets see the autopsies



posted on Feb, 13 2012 @ 06:16 PM
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Originally posted by stirling

This is perhaps a gift from mother russia in the form of the carrier and escort drppoing into tartus lately...or perhaps that frieghter the turks stopped and let go....
This will be reason for interventionif true, and that makes me very suspicious of the report.....
lets see the corpses.....lets see the autopsies


I question why Russia would do this, or even Iran? How would either of them benefit from this?



posted on Feb, 13 2012 @ 06:35 PM
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Holy Sarin Gas, Batman! Thank you for this thread. For all the time and nights I've spent digging into the mess over there to understand the players, weapons and motivations for what may be the defining war for our lifetimes....I just never thought to look at NBC weapons. I thought the mere fact it wasn't in the news meant it wasn't a major factor outside of the obvious Nuclear in Iran.

Oh my goodness...was I ever wrong! ! Syria isn't just 'a' chemical weapons power...they are among the most advanced and largest stockpiles of chemical weapons anywhere in the world!


In 2008, a secret State Department cable warned of a growing chemical weapons threat from a Middle Eastern country whose autocratic leader had a long history of stirring up trouble in the region. The leader, noted for his “support for terrorist organizations,” was attempting to buy technology from other countries to upgrade an already fearsome stockpile of deadly poisons, the department warned.



Syria’s preferred poison is not mustard gas but sarin, the nerve agent that killed 13 people and sickened about 1,000 during a terrorist attack on the Tokyo subway system in 1995. Sarin, which is lethal if inhaled even in minute quantities, can also be used to contaminate water and food supplies.



By early in the last decade, some weapons experts ranked Syria’s chemical stockpile as probably the largest in the world, consisting of tens of tons of highly lethal chemical agents and hundreds of Scud missiles as well as lesser rockets, artillery rockets and bomblets for delivering the poisons.
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I'm a little stunned by the reality of it all. No one seems to mention this aspect very much. It still doesn't justify what the West is doing in trying to create a war here where one doesn't need to happen. However.... *IF* Assad has crossed the line to actually using these against human beings in anger, he's become a rabid dog. Again, lets just be certain BEYOND any reasonable ..or ANY...doubt before starting World War III over it.
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posted on Feb, 13 2012 @ 06:40 PM
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Now this is some serious stuff right here.
Time to invade.

Can't be gassing people like that.



posted on Feb, 13 2012 @ 09:28 PM
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CR gas is likely the culprit and has been misidentified as a "nerve agent" before (in Egypt):
www.newsmax.com...

It is however, a known carcinogen and many countries such as the US have banned its use.


Use:

In the late 1980s, CR was used in the townships in South Africa. It caused some fatalities, in particular among children. Republican groups in northern Ireland have alleged that British Army and Royal Ulster Constabulary units used CR gas against Republican prisoners.

Egypt:
More recently, during the protests against the military government in Egypt, Egyptian security forces have begun using CR gas in addition to the more commonly-used, less debilitating CS gas. One protester described the gas as making him feel "as if your eyes are about to fall out; then you have trouble breathing, and you lose your sight". Mohammed ElBaradei also confirmed via Twitter that "tear gas with [a] nerve agent" is being used in Tahrir Square.

Israel:
Israel Police forces spray CR gas at riot control situations. It is widely used at demonstrations within the Palestinian victims and at the Israeli West Bank barrier.

Philippines:
CR tear gas was used in suppression of the mutiny in Makati that was led by Sen. Antonio Trillanes. The tear gas was fired in the building and all the people in the building including reporters were affected.

Sri Lanka:
The LTTE, also known as Tamil Tigers of Sri Lanka, an insurgent group in Sri Lanka used CR gas against government forces that were on an offensive to flush and defeat these insurgents during September 2008. Its use hindered the army's progress but ultimately proved ineffective in preventing the army from overrunning LTTE positions. This is one of the first few cases of insurgents using CR gas as an insurgent weapon.

Vietnam:
It has been reported that thousands of tons of CR gas were used by the U.S. forces in Vietnam to bring Viet Cong into the open. It was also used by the North Vietnamese forces in some battles like Hue in 1968 or during the Easter Offensive in 1972.

CR tear gas was used at the G8 protests in Genoa, Italy and Quebec City, Canada during the FTAA anti-globalization demonstrations during the Quebec City Summit of the Americas.
The Canadian, Norwegian, and Australian Armies train their soldiers with CR gas in a manner similar to that of the USA, as it is a basic part of CBRN (Chemical, Biological, Radiological, Nuclear) training. Gas is released by burning tablets, usually in a building reserved for this purpose (a "gas hut"). In the training, the person enters the building unprotected, and must fit and clear the gas mask before leaving. Other drills such as drinking and under-mask decontamination are also practiced. Some Norwegian units are exposed to CR-gas while engaged in physical activity such as push-ups.
Because of its alleged carcinogenic properties, the United States does not utilize CR for riot control. The U.S. military classification for this chemical agent is combat class chemical weapon causing serious side-effects for humans.


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posted on Feb, 14 2012 @ 12:36 AM
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Originally posted by grey580
Now this is some serious stuff right here.
Time to invade.

Can't be gassing people like that.


Ah so your agreeing with John McCain then? if you invade Syria or Iran it will be WW3

Yeah lets invade turn like Libya is now what a great idea NOT

i am so tired of war mongers saying these things like this now.
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posted on Feb, 14 2012 @ 12:50 AM
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When you see words like ' NERVE GAS ', ' CHEMICAL WEAPONS ' and so on..

You kind of dismiss it, because if protestors were being hit with nerve agents or chemical agents there'd be pictures of dead bodies, grey corpses and choking people left right and centre.

I do remember hearing the catch words in egypt, but it was quickly dismissed as anti riot equipment..

You'll know when they use nerve gas.. and im sure Syria isnt 'that' dumb!

edit to add : after reading the article, id say its some very enhanced type of tear gas.. or something of the such.
People lose bowell control and convulse..

... well, i suppose when they are recovering in hospital you should ask them

'' so, you got gassed, you got beaten.. they won... tell me, would you rather be a corpse in the morgue or a sick man in hospital with no LIFE THREATENING injuries? ''
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posted on Feb, 14 2012 @ 01:01 AM
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They probably got them when they were removed from Iraq.It would be a simple matter to test the formula to see if they're ours.
USAF Gen Thomas McInerney claimed this I believe. He stated Speznaz took them to Syria.So we would look bad when we jumped Iraq the second time.



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