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End Times prophecy's of Old Testament prophets and the near present future of the Middle East., page 1
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reply posted on 13-2-2012 @ 02:36 PM by apushforenlightment
I belive the rubbing of your forhead is to open the third eye that will help a person to connect with god and the opposite of the mark of the beast.
The mark of the beast is for me the economic chip that you cannot sell things with. We are all part of the ego (devils system) system that have been
created around us where we are slaves to parasites on the top that are crying freedom and democrazy but only take it away.
www.markbeast.com...
Who will get the mark of the beast?
Almost everyone in the world will get the mark of the beast. There are many reasons why people will choose to get the mark:
1.It will be required for everyone (You need money in a form of a visa or mastercard)
2.There will be severe penalties for refusing the mark of the beast (You will not get paid for your work without a bank account)
3.There will be great rewards for getting the mark of the beast (Allowed to live in the community)
4.People will believe they are honoring God by receiving the mark of the beast (Since most people live as money is god)
5.People will be afraid of not getting the mark of the beast (Be as successful parasite as you can since that is the success in this system)
6.Peer pressure – most other people are getting the mark of the beast (Do you know anybody without a visa card or similar)
7.Financial pressure – can’t buy or sell without the mark of the beast (Well papper will soon not be an allowed currency)
Just wait until the chip goes in the arm instead in a card with a gps tracker. Unfortunatly there will probably be more people from the Muslim faith that reaches heaven than from the Christian. But egodemons exists in all race, gender and religon. Just as the saints do. Christianety VS Muslim is just the devils way to use duality against us and increase his power. Divide and conqurer. Namaste
www.markbeast.com...
Who will get the mark of the beast?
Almost everyone in the world will get the mark of the beast. There are many reasons why people will choose to get the mark:
1.It will be required for everyone (You need money in a form of a visa or mastercard)
2.There will be severe penalties for refusing the mark of the beast (You will not get paid for your work without a bank account)
3.There will be great rewards for getting the mark of the beast (Allowed to live in the community)
4.People will believe they are honoring God by receiving the mark of the beast (Since most people live as money is god)
5.People will be afraid of not getting the mark of the beast (Be as successful parasite as you can since that is the success in this system)
6.Peer pressure – most other people are getting the mark of the beast (Do you know anybody without a visa card or similar)
7.Financial pressure – can’t buy or sell without the mark of the beast (Well papper will soon not be an allowed currency)
Just wait until the chip goes in the arm instead in a card with a gps tracker. Unfortunatly there will probably be more people from the Muslim faith that reaches heaven than from the Christian. But egodemons exists in all race, gender and religon. Just as the saints do. Christianety VS Muslim is just the devils way to use duality against us and increase his power. Divide and conqurer. Namaste
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reply posted on 13-2-2012 @ 02:51 PM by lonewolf19792000
reply to post by apushforenlightment
I don't do the third eye stuff. There's only one way to connect with Yahweh and thats through Yahshua haMeshiach (Jesus the Christ), otherwise youre praying to heaven and your prayers are bouncing back at you because he will not hear you without the high priest of Melchizidek mediating.
I don't do the third eye stuff. There's only one way to connect with Yahweh and thats through Yahshua haMeshiach (Jesus the Christ), otherwise youre praying to heaven and your prayers are bouncing back at you because he will not hear you without the high priest of Melchizidek mediating.
reply posted on 13-2-2012 @ 03:15 PM by apushforenlightment
Originally posted by lonewolf19792000
reply to post by apushforenlightment
I don't do the third eye stuff. There's only one way to connect with Yahweh and thats through Yahshua haMeshiach (Jesus the Christ), otherwise youre praying to heaven and your prayers are bouncing back at you because he will not hear you without the high priest of Melchizidek mediating.
If that is your way then it is your way. I do not read the bible much and do not need it. God shows me what I am supposed to know by guiding me. I did not pray because I did not belive I was heard. I was always heard and never alone. I was just not ready to know it until I was ready to at least temporary let go off ego. Now I do not pray because I have already said what I want. It is a pain to wan't extremly big things for all and know that I will never settle for less. There is two ways to reach heaven. The long walk where you build up your mind/neurons to be as and angel or the short route thru depression/hell where all the percieved demons around you try to destroy you and make you one of them. The short route if you make it, can make your will strong so that you are able to push thru any pain physical or mental, but you don't get harmonious directly like the monk/person going the long way. The brains part in the enlightenment process. vimeo.com... It seem from this video that both Jesus and Buddha took the road thru hell. Namaste
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reply posted on 13-2-2012 @ 06:36 PM by lonewolf19792000
reply to post by MarlboroRedCowgirl
Well it's just a theory, but certainly a possible one if you take into accounts the current movements in Islam and Iran's mutterings of trying to bring their Mahdi which would be done by massive amounts of bloodshed.
Well it's just a theory, but certainly a possible one if you take into accounts the current movements in Islam and Iran's mutterings of trying to bring their Mahdi which would be done by massive amounts of bloodshed.
reply posted on 13-2-2012 @ 07:01 PM by lonewolf19792000
reply to post by CLPrime
Who has divided up the lands of Israel? There is more to Israel than what the modernday Israel is. What is called Jordan today is also a part of Israel. The muslim have divided up the lands belonging to Yahweh, the lands that are Yahshua's inheritance. Those prophecies will be fulfilled again because Yahshua will be against anyone who is not for him and anyone who tries to destroy Israel which is on the islamic agenda. You can go right to Isaiah 63 and read the events that happen at Busirah (Bozrah) and then go to the new testament and read Revelation.
Revelation 19:11-16
11 I saw heaven standing open and there before me was a white horse, whose rider is called Faithful and True. With justice he judges and wages war. 12 His eyes are like blazing fire, and on his head are many crowns. He has a name written on him that no one knows but he himself. 13 He is dressed in a robe dipped in blood, and his name is the Word of God. 14 The armies of heaven were following him, riding on white horses and dressed in fine linen, white and clean. 15 Coming out of his mouth is a sharp sword with which to strike down the nations. “He will rule them with an iron scepter.”[a] He treads the winepress of the fury of the wrath of God Almighty. 16 On his robe and on his thigh he has this name written:
KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS.
The old prophecies will happen again, because all that has happened in the past is repeating itself because the Old Testament was a foreshadowing of things to come. The jewish feastdays are dress rehearsals for end times events that started 2000 years ago and that are coming to an end.
Who has divided up the lands of Israel? There is more to Israel than what the modernday Israel is. What is called Jordan today is also a part of Israel. The muslim have divided up the lands belonging to Yahweh, the lands that are Yahshua's inheritance. Those prophecies will be fulfilled again because Yahshua will be against anyone who is not for him and anyone who tries to destroy Israel which is on the islamic agenda. You can go right to Isaiah 63 and read the events that happen at Busirah (Bozrah) and then go to the new testament and read Revelation.
Revelation 19:11-16
11 I saw heaven standing open and there before me was a white horse, whose rider is called Faithful and True. With justice he judges and wages war. 12 His eyes are like blazing fire, and on his head are many crowns. He has a name written on him that no one knows but he himself. 13 He is dressed in a robe dipped in blood, and his name is the Word of God. 14 The armies of heaven were following him, riding on white horses and dressed in fine linen, white and clean. 15 Coming out of his mouth is a sharp sword with which to strike down the nations. “He will rule them with an iron scepter.”[a] He treads the winepress of the fury of the wrath of God Almighty. 16 On his robe and on his thigh he has this name written:
KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS.
The old prophecies will happen again, because all that has happened in the past is repeating itself because the Old Testament was a foreshadowing of things to come. The jewish feastdays are dress rehearsals for end times events that started 2000 years ago and that are coming to an end.
reply posted on 13-2-2012 @ 09:02 PM by lonewolf19792000
reply to post by sHuRuLuNi
Skip to the end of the book of Revelation. We win. The jews win, because they finally realize who their Messiah is and call on him. There won't be any talking rocks or talking trees telling the slaves of Allah theres a jew behind them to come kill them. You try to exterminate the people of the King of kings and he will break you into pieces.
Skip to the end of the book of Revelation. We win. The jews win, because they finally realize who their Messiah is and call on him. There won't be any talking rocks or talking trees telling the slaves of Allah theres a jew behind them to come kill them. You try to exterminate the people of the King of kings and he will break you into pieces.
reply posted on 13-2-2012 @ 09:16 PM by CLPrime
reply to post by lonewolf19792000
No...there was more to Israel than what you see in the Old Testament. It became a spiritual, perfected nation, surpassing land. Now, it's a heavenly kingdom known here on Earth as the Church - the "Israel of God." We care nothing for land, and we will not go back to any sort of physical system. Why would we? The perfection has come.
Also...the entire book of Revelation was given to the 7 mid-first-century churches at Asia Minor and was, save for a couple sentences, fulfilled in the rule and fall of the Roman Empire. Even the passage you quoted. It's all in the past.
No...there was more to Israel than what you see in the Old Testament. It became a spiritual, perfected nation, surpassing land. Now, it's a heavenly kingdom known here on Earth as the Church - the "Israel of God." We care nothing for land, and we will not go back to any sort of physical system. Why would we? The perfection has come.
Also...the entire book of Revelation was given to the 7 mid-first-century churches at Asia Minor and was, save for a couple sentences, fulfilled in the rule and fall of the Roman Empire. Even the passage you quoted. It's all in the past.
reply posted on 14-2-2012 @ 01:06 AM by ntech
reply to post by CLPrime
Ok, so you believe that the apocalyptic prophesies of the bible are complete. You are partially correct but there is a problem that happened in the first century AD that invalidated the previous fulfillments of the prophesies. The problem is this.
John the Baptist wasn't supposed to die when he did. Why?
Try this verse
Malachi 3.
1 Behold, I will send my messenger, and he shall prepare the way before me: and the LORD, whom ye seek, shall suddenly come to his temple, even the messenger of the covenant, whom ye delight in: behold, he shall come, saith the LORD of hosts.
You see it's not one messiah that was supposed to show up in the first century AD.
It was supposed to have been 3 messiahs in the first century AD!
One was killed prematurely and the other simply never showed up. So what happened was this.
Malachi 4.
5 Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD:
6 And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse.
Matthew 17
10 And his disciples asked him, saying, Why then say the scribes that Elias must first come?
11 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Elias truly shall first come, and restore all things.
12 But I say unto you, That Elias is come already, and they knew him not, but have done unto him whatsoever they listed. Likewise shall also the Son of man suffer of them.
13 Then the disciples understood that he spake unto them of John the Baptist.
Elijah was killed and the curse was laid on the earth. So what is the curse? I looked and figured it out. Per Leviticus 26 and the covenant made between God and the Israelites there is a benefits/punishments arrangement there. Follow the laws of Moses and God will bless your nation. Break them and there is a number of corrections that can be applied to try to bring you society back to the good side of the covenant.
What happened was a top level Leviticus 26 curse was applied. Where the nation and it cities are destroyed and the the people scattered. And after looking at the prophesies of Hosea closely I found a prediction of the length of the curse. It's two thousand years long.
Hosea 6-2
After two days will he revive us: in the third day he will raise us up, and we shall live in his sight.
2nd Peter 3-8
But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
Now do you see the problem with your position now? When the 2000 year curse kicked in all the previous fulfillments of end time prophecy became invalid. Why. Take Daniel for example. The prophesies of Daniel have this condition in several places.
Daniel
8-19
And he said, Behold, I will make thee know what shall be in the last end of the indignation: for at the time appointed the end shall be.
11-6
And in the end of years
11-40
And at the time of the end
12-4
But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.
And lastly.
Genesis
49-1
And Jacob called unto his sons, and said, Gather yourselves together, that I may tell you that which shall befall you in the last days.
Why Genesis? The prophesies of Genesis 48 and 49 predict that the descendants of Israel were to have become a multitude of nations by the end times. That certainly didn't happen by the first century AD. They had to be scattered to the world first. Conquest by genetics. And knowledge needed to be increased as well. And while the Romans did have some interesting technologies in the first century AD it doesn't hold a candle to what we can do today.
So here is the timeline of the 70 weeks of Daniel 9.
First 69 weeks or 483 years ended sometime around 25-35 AD. And the 2000 year curse of Malachi started then. At the end of the curse the last 7 years or 1 week will start. The end of years/end of days is the 70th week of the Daniel 9 prophecy. Not the 69 weeks that came before. And that is why your argument is invalid. Those events no longer fit the time requirements.
Ok, so you believe that the apocalyptic prophesies of the bible are complete. You are partially correct but there is a problem that happened in the first century AD that invalidated the previous fulfillments of the prophesies. The problem is this.
John the Baptist wasn't supposed to die when he did. Why?
Try this verse
Malachi 3.
1 Behold, I will send my messenger, and he shall prepare the way before me: and the LORD, whom ye seek, shall suddenly come to his temple, even the messenger of the covenant, whom ye delight in: behold, he shall come, saith the LORD of hosts.
You see it's not one messiah that was supposed to show up in the first century AD.
It was supposed to have been 3 messiahs in the first century AD!
One was killed prematurely and the other simply never showed up. So what happened was this.
Malachi 4.
5 Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD:
6 And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse.
Matthew 17
10 And his disciples asked him, saying, Why then say the scribes that Elias must first come?
11 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Elias truly shall first come, and restore all things.
12 But I say unto you, That Elias is come already, and they knew him not, but have done unto him whatsoever they listed. Likewise shall also the Son of man suffer of them.
13 Then the disciples understood that he spake unto them of John the Baptist.
Elijah was killed and the curse was laid on the earth. So what is the curse? I looked and figured it out. Per Leviticus 26 and the covenant made between God and the Israelites there is a benefits/punishments arrangement there. Follow the laws of Moses and God will bless your nation. Break them and there is a number of corrections that can be applied to try to bring you society back to the good side of the covenant.
What happened was a top level Leviticus 26 curse was applied. Where the nation and it cities are destroyed and the the people scattered. And after looking at the prophesies of Hosea closely I found a prediction of the length of the curse. It's two thousand years long.
Hosea 6-2
After two days will he revive us: in the third day he will raise us up, and we shall live in his sight.
2nd Peter 3-8
But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
Now do you see the problem with your position now? When the 2000 year curse kicked in all the previous fulfillments of end time prophecy became invalid. Why. Take Daniel for example. The prophesies of Daniel have this condition in several places.
Daniel
8-19
And he said, Behold, I will make thee know what shall be in the last end of the indignation: for at the time appointed the end shall be.
11-6
And in the end of years
11-40
And at the time of the end
12-4
But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.
And lastly.
Genesis
49-1
And Jacob called unto his sons, and said, Gather yourselves together, that I may tell you that which shall befall you in the last days.
Why Genesis? The prophesies of Genesis 48 and 49 predict that the descendants of Israel were to have become a multitude of nations by the end times. That certainly didn't happen by the first century AD. They had to be scattered to the world first. Conquest by genetics. And knowledge needed to be increased as well. And while the Romans did have some interesting technologies in the first century AD it doesn't hold a candle to what we can do today.
So here is the timeline of the 70 weeks of Daniel 9.
First 69 weeks or 483 years ended sometime around 25-35 AD. And the 2000 year curse of Malachi started then. At the end of the curse the last 7 years or 1 week will start. The end of years/end of days is the 70th week of the Daniel 9 prophecy. Not the 69 weeks that came before. And that is why your argument is invalid. Those events no longer fit the time requirements.
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reply posted on 14-2-2012 @ 06:39 AM by lonewolf19792000
reply to post by ntech
I'd have to say your post was impressive. I like the way you put things together. That is some awsome detective work.
I'd have to say your post was impressive. I like the way you put things together. That is some awsome detective work.
reply posted on 14-2-2012 @ 06:46 AM by lonewolf19792000
Originally posted by apushforenlightment
Originally posted by lonewolf19792000
reply to post by apushforenlightment
I don't do the third eye stuff. There's only one way to connect with Yahweh and thats through Yahshua haMeshiach (Jesus the Christ), otherwise youre praying to heaven and your prayers are bouncing back at you because he will not hear you without the high priest of Melchizidek mediating.
If that is your way then it is your way. I do not read the bible much and do not need it. God shows me what I am supposed to know by guiding me. I did not pray because I did not belive I was heard. I was always heard and never alone. I was just not ready to know it until I was ready to at least temporary let go off ego. Now I do not pray because I have already said what I want. It is a pain to wan't extremly big things for all and know that I will never settle for less. There is two ways to reach heaven. The long walk where you build up your mind/neurons to be as and angel or the short route thru depression/hell where all the percieved demons around you try to destroy you and make you one of them. The short route if you make it, can make your will strong so that you are able to push thru any pain physical or mental, but you don't get harmonious directly like the monk/person going the long way. The brains part in the enlightenment process. vimeo.com... It seem from this video that both Jesus and Buddha took the road thru hell. Namasteedit on 13-2-2012 by apushforenlightment because: spellchecking
New age stuff. You go trying to put complicated metaphyisics and things into the word that aren't even needed. You add to the word what is told we should never do. There are not 2 ways to heaven and you are anti-christ and it is you who have never read the bible because Yahshua clearly says:
John 14:1-21
1 “Do not let your hearts be troubled. You believe in God[a]; believe also in me. 2 My Father’s house has many rooms; if that were not so, would I have told you that I am going there to prepare a place for you? 3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come back and take you to be with me that you also may be where I am. 4 You know the way to the place where I am going.”
Jesus the Way to the Father
5 Thomas said to him, “Lord, we don’t know where you are going, so how can we know the way?”
6 Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. 7 If you really know me, you will know my Father as well. From now on, you do know him and have seen him.”
8 Philip said, “Lord, show us the Father and that will be enough for us.”
9 Jesus answered: “Don’t you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’? 10 Don’t you believe that I am in the Father, and that the Father is in me? The words I say to you I do not speak on my own authority. Rather, it is the Father, living in me, who is doing his work. 11 Believe me when I say that I am in the Father and the Father is in me; or at least believe on the evidence of the works themselves. 12 Very truly I tell you, whoever believes in me will do the works I have been doing, and they will do even greater things than these, because I am going to the Father. 13 And I will do whatever you ask in my name, so that the Father may be glorified in the Son. 14 You may ask me for anything in my name, and I will do it.
Jesus Promises the Holy Spirit
15 “If you love me, keep my commands. 16 And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another advocate to help you and be with you forever— 17 the Spirit of truth. The world cannot accept him, because it neither sees him nor knows him. But you know him, for he lives with you and will be[c] in you. 18 I will not leave you as orphans; I will come to you. 19 Before long, the world will not see me anymore, but you will see me. Because I live, you also will live. 20 On that day you will realize that I am in my Father, and you are in me, and I am in you. 21 Whoever has my commands and keeps them is the one who loves me. The one who loves me will be loved by my Father, and I too will love them and show myself to them.”
Nowhere in all that did i read anything about 2 ways other than Yahshua to get to heaven. You have just revealed to me and my brothers and sisters what you are.
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