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Originally posted by Conspirus
It was made in that previous post, since you can’t seem to handle yourself very well, here is my old post that I am referring to:
“Only reason I brought up FDR putting it on the dollar is because he was not a Christian...
And no, no star for you.
More clue than you, you are the one calling them Christian man! Just cuz they can draw pictures of Jesus really well.
If you knew ANYTHING about the Renaissance you would know that that’s when secular humanism started, not anything good from any biblical standpoint.
Hmm, well judging from all you’ve said so far combined with that wonderful attitude of yours, I’d take what he’s saying over yours in a heartbeat.
Thus you imply yourself that at one point they likely had similar origins.
In your own words, there are plenty who don’t.
It is all there man, “you have a serious comprehension issue.” Nice way to randomly nit pick at what you want to complain about, especially when your method of quoting others totally sucks; and how bout dropping the derogatory comments and focusing on just discussion.
What is or isn’t relevant doesn’t seem to matter to you very much.
Oh yeah? As you like to say, that is your own personal interpretation. Both the front and back side of the Great Seal is described below.
While referring to the number 13’s relevance on the Great Seal, Manley P. Hall wrote:
James D. Carter, 33rd degree freemason, admitted the Masonic symbolism is clearly known whenever “an informed Mason examines the Great Seal.”
Roosevelt…was first struck with the representation of the all-seeing eye - a Masonic representation of the Great Architect of the Universe. ...
Those who were artists during the Renaissance can in no way be confirmed Christian - this being the case, if they weren’t Christian and were using it to depict deity, what does that tell you?
And by deity who are you referring to? Deity implies possibility of referring to gods other than God.
How much you want to ignore that fact is quite obvious with your poor examples to Kyobosha of biblically fallen away church buildings.
The eye coupled with the concept of a triangle has been used since ancient times.
Do you have biblical evidence the eye in a triangle refers to the Trinity?
If it were such a "purely" Christian symbol, why do we see pure Satan lovers such as the late Aleister Crowley wearing it?
Yeah, but are they biblically correct as a whole? No.
Good, finally a point you’re not off on. Now go study on the difference between the Law of Moses and the Law of Christ.
Haha, yeah, except Lucifer being a former arch angel would still be infinitely stronger and on a whole nother level than Jim Jones, but he would still not be equal to God nonetheless.
An architect cannot create things out of nothing, an architect needs materials to create with, they design based upon available technologies.
So like Kyobosha said, Satan will take his best shot at beating God in His own game.
According to Pike, he equates Lucifer as being equal to “Adonay” (the name they use for the original God when they have no allegiance to him,) by stating “Lucifer is God, but unfortunately, Adonay is also God” there can be no light without shadow, etc. something like that.
Yes he did say that, or do you not know of that either?
He said a bit more than that. That’s an easy one to find so you can do that yourself….maybe. Here’s an extra quote for you from Manly P. Hall:
"When the Mason ... has learned the mystery of his Craft, the seething energies of Lucifer are in his hands. ..." (Manly Palmer Hall, The Lost Keys of Freemasonry, p. 48).
Originally posted by Conspirus
Originally posted by starseedflower
reply to post by SuperiorEd
I would rather read something that has not been changed so many times out of convenience (please research Council of Nicaea), so when I take the Bible as a reference, I take it with an open mind and a pinch of salt, sorry mate.
If the Council of Nicaea is what bothers you and you are truly concerned about what is truth you should learn Greek and read the original for yourself. Translating a language as complex as Greek into English to make it equally meaningful is a huge task in itself - Council of Nicaea aside, I have problems with that council myself as well.
Originally posted by Conspirus
Originally posted by W3RLIED2
reply to post by W3RLIED2
And just because I don't think this point is driven home enough. I've said it plenty, and I'll keep saying it:
I was raised catholic, and every Friday and Sunday we would ritually consume a piece of un leavened bread, anda sip of wine. We symbolically, and ritually, ate flesh and drank blood.
Christianity certainly has a few head scratchers for me, needless to say, how you can come on here and call us ritualistic Luciferians, when every sabbath you practice a ritual as well.
Alright sure, I agree communion is a ritual but if classified as such it is quite the mild one in where one does not eat actual flesh nor drink real blood but is more along the lines of eating a tiny piece of cracker and a drop of grape juice, and is just to "remember" what Christ did for them.
Whereas a satanic ritual is much more sadistic in nature where children and virgins are tortured, raped to the point of death, and sacrificed and they do eat human flesh and drink their blood, all to gather the evil energy for whatever event/person they're trying to add power to. Candles, mysticism, etc. was added in by the by-then-satanically-influenced-Catholic church and is separate from their true religion preached by Jesus. This happened with Pope Miltiades under Constantine, who was given the title "Pope" and had the Pope's Palace built for him for agreeing to mix paganism with the original Christianity as Constantine did not want to get rid of paganism; ever since then the had-been poor church, the Roman Catholics became filthy rich and wealthy - as they still say, follow the money. The Vatican has been holding hands with Satan for a very long time.
And as a side note, unless they get you hypnotized or possessed or you were born in one of the illuminati families, you aren't gonna become a blood drinking flesh eating satanist overnight, they build you up to that point
Originally posted by Kyobosha
To be honest, the fact that Mrs. Clinton held seances in the white house and attempted to communicate with Eleanor Roosevelt is really concerning.
So you're saying Solomon went bad before building the Temple? That God allowed His House to be built by demons? Hmmmm...which Bible verse supports this?
It wasn't Baal he sacrificed to, KsigMason, you told me to research Baal.
In the end he loved an evil women who Made him sacrifice grasshoppers to baal. baal is basically the devil.
Beware of false prophets who come disguised as harmless sheep but are really vicious wolves.
A good tree can’t produce bad fruit and a bad tree can’t produce good fruit.
Originally posted by Mattodlum
reply to post by KSigMason
Here is some things Solomon did
1 Kings 11:5 He followed Ashtoreth the goddess of the Sidonians, and Molech the detestable god of the Ammonites.
1 Kings 11:7 On a hill east of Jerusalem, Solomon built a high place for Chemosh the detestable god of Moab, and for Molech the detestable god of the Ammonites.
It wasn't Baal he sacrificed to, KsigMason, you told me to research Baal. But for what reason... You don't know your bible.... I mistakenly thought it was Baal, and after I told you it was Molech you still brought up baal... Anyways the ring he used to summon demons is talked about in the testament of King Solomon.. I guess your masonic ways have closed your mind to different view points....
Read this Mason
Matthew 7:13 "Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it.
He said this before Masonry was created... yet Freemasonry is a fraternal organization that arose from obscure origins in the late 16th to early 17th century. Freemasonry now exists in various forms all over the world, with a membership estimated at around six million.
I have know quite a few Masons, one of them shot himself. And the others seem to be far from a loving heart. I'm no judge though.... I know there are some good masons, but most are lead astray.
Beware of false prophets who come disguised as harmless sheep but are really vicious wolves. You can identify them by their fruit, that is, the way they act. Can you pick grapes from thorn bushes or figs from thistles? A good tree produces good fruit, and a bad tree produces bad fruit. A good tree can’t produce bad fruit and a bad tree can’t produce good fruit. So every tree that does not produce good fruit is chopped down and thrown into the fire. Yes, just as you can identify a tree by its fruit, so you can identify people by their actions.
Not everyone who calls out to me, “Lord! Lord!” will enter the Kingdom of Heaven. Only those who actually do the will of my Father in heaven will enter. On judgment day many will say to me, “Lord! Lord! We prophesied in your name and cast out demons in your name and performed many miracles in your name.” But I will reply, “I never knew you. Get away from me, you who break God’s laws.
Now, I can honestly say that I'm not living up to those standards. - Matt Odlum So I plan to make changes in my life to pursue righteousness in every capacity I can. Peace and Love to All......Message to the Devil -Your days are numbered and Archangel Michael will slay you!edit on 28-2-2012 by Mattodlum because: Grammer error