Israel Blames Iran Of Bombings In India, Georgia, page 5
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reply posted on 13-2-2012 @ 06:11 PM by Agit8dChop
reply to post by reaxi0n
With current and recent events I think the most obvious answer is most likely the most correct.
Israel struck Iranian scientists with motorcycle born magnetic bombs. Even the US admitted this, but we all new it was the case.
Now, Israeli diplomats have been the target of a identical hit.
I can’t imagine it would be difficult to acquire bomb parts in India, nor would it be difficult to get inside and hide.
India's a big country, FULL Of people of all different ethnic backgrounds.
It’s the perfect place to hit an Israeli.
If this was an Israeli false flag.. it would have been bigger, more catastrophic and it would have killed people of OTHER nationalities.. because after all the idea is to get everyone ONBOARD against the Iranians.
I think this was Iran’s effort at telling Israel anything you can do, we can do to.
By the looks of things it was rushed, which is why the targets were so lucky.
With current and recent events I think the most obvious answer is most likely the most correct.
Israel struck Iranian scientists with motorcycle born magnetic bombs. Even the US admitted this, but we all new it was the case.
Now, Israeli diplomats have been the target of a identical hit.
I can’t imagine it would be difficult to acquire bomb parts in India, nor would it be difficult to get inside and hide.
India's a big country, FULL Of people of all different ethnic backgrounds.
It’s the perfect place to hit an Israeli.
If this was an Israeli false flag.. it would have been bigger, more catastrophic and it would have killed people of OTHER nationalities.. because after all the idea is to get everyone ONBOARD against the Iranians.
I think this was Iran’s effort at telling Israel anything you can do, we can do to.
By the looks of things it was rushed, which is why the targets were so lucky.
reply posted on 13-2-2012 @ 06:42 PM by bluemirage5
reply to post by Tifozi
Just as I thought would happen and said so on another thread.
Iran involved? I personally don't believe it.
Just as I thought would happen and said so on another thread.
Iran involved? I personally don't believe it.
reply posted on 13-2-2012 @ 06:51 PM by reaxi0n
reply to post by Agit8dChop
Yes, I'm not doubting it was Iran who did this. But my point being, was that no one knew it was Israel before the US even said anything about it, yet everyone was quick to blame them and condemn the notion that Iran could have pulled off a false flag of their own.
And now when Netanyahu so much as says he believes Iran was the one who did this, everyone is jumping on Israel saying BS!!! It's an Israeli false flag!
Same situation, only this time Israel is the victim of the attack. People need to get real.
Are they really so quick to forget Iran's threat after the killing of that last scientist?
source
NAAAH. Couldn't be Iran. They're angels
Yes, I'm not doubting it was Iran who did this. But my point being, was that no one knew it was Israel before the US even said anything about it, yet everyone was quick to blame them and condemn the notion that Iran could have pulled off a false flag of their own.
And now when Netanyahu so much as says he believes Iran was the one who did this, everyone is jumping on Israel saying BS!!! It's an Israeli false flag!
Same situation, only this time Israel is the victim of the attack. People need to get real.
Are they really so quick to forget Iran's threat after the killing of that last scientist?
Israel and the United States are "supporters of state terrorism" and will suffer a "punitive response" at an "opportune time," Iran's Press TV cited a top Iranian general as saying Sunday, days after an Iranian nuclear scientist was killed.
Iran will hold "the U.S., Britain and the Zionist regime accountable for their actions," said the deputy chairman of Iran's Joint Chiefs of Staff, Brig. Gen. Massoud Jazayeri.
source
NAAAH. Couldn't be Iran. They're angels
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reply posted on 13-2-2012 @ 09:12 PM by Aim64C
reply to post by reaxi0n
But, you see, that was a statement made due to Israeli coercion and mind controlled operatives.
They want Iran dead so much that they use mind-control on the political leadership of Iran to get them to say ridiculous things that give the Israeli false-flag operations more credence.
Which is, in itself, a false-flag. The bankers (also Jews, if you'll note) are using purse-string-class mind control devices on the Israeli government. They are attempting to hide their war profiteering under Zionist pretenses.
Which is another false-flag. In reality, the banking system is at the beck-and-call of sacrilegious "blood-Jews" (I - the race) who want to dominate the world because they have nothing better to do in their spare time (perhaps masturbation is forbidden, or their internet is perpetually down).
And then... we get to the biggest conspiracy in and of itself. The biggest false-flag operation of them all. You see... everything around you is your sub-conscious projection of reality. Nothing really exists. We're just here to # with your head and try to teach you morals, or something.
Do I get a cookie for figuring it all out, now?
NAAAH. Couldn't be Iran. They're angels
But, you see, that was a statement made due to Israeli coercion and mind controlled operatives.
They want Iran dead so much that they use mind-control on the political leadership of Iran to get them to say ridiculous things that give the Israeli false-flag operations more credence.
Which is, in itself, a false-flag. The bankers (also Jews, if you'll note) are using purse-string-class mind control devices on the Israeli government. They are attempting to hide their war profiteering under Zionist pretenses.
Which is another false-flag. In reality, the banking system is at the beck-and-call of sacrilegious "blood-Jews" (I - the race) who want to dominate the world because they have nothing better to do in their spare time (perhaps masturbation is forbidden, or their internet is perpetually down).
And then... we get to the biggest conspiracy in and of itself. The biggest false-flag operation of them all. You see... everything around you is your sub-conscious projection of reality. Nothing really exists. We're just here to # with your head and try to teach you morals, or something.
Do I get a cookie for figuring it all out, now?
.reply posted on 14-2-2012 @ 12:52 AM by gem_man
reply to post by Tifozi
Sure, Iran is Trying to kill diplomats! Only an idiot would believe that. Iran may be crazy but certainly NOT stupid. Considering the vast military assets positioned around them it is HIGHLY unlikely Iran had anything to do with the attacks.
Netanyahu goes on to say in the article that Iran is the biggest exporter of terrorism in the world. Seems to me Israel has that distinction when you consider they have killed civilian scientists in Iran and attacked Irans computers with the Suxtent virus. AND what about the assasination of that fellow in Dubai? Most likely Israel is trying to create a reason for an attack on Iran. Not by them alone but I suspect they hope to muster support from the US.
Sure, Iran is Trying to kill diplomats! Only an idiot would believe that. Iran may be crazy but certainly NOT stupid. Considering the vast military assets positioned around them it is HIGHLY unlikely Iran had anything to do with the attacks.
Netanyahu goes on to say in the article that Iran is the biggest exporter of terrorism in the world. Seems to me Israel has that distinction when you consider they have killed civilian scientists in Iran and attacked Irans computers with the Suxtent virus. AND what about the assasination of that fellow in Dubai? Most likely Israel is trying to create a reason for an attack on Iran. Not by them alone but I suspect they hope to muster support from the US.
reply posted on 14-2-2012 @ 02:01 AM by Aim64C
reply to post by gem_man
That is a logical way of thinking based upon the rationale that diplomacy is a worthwhile effort.
When you remove that premise, your logical argument holds little water. Their values are not the same as our own.
Further complicating the matter is the possibility that while the attack originated from Iran - the group was operating without an official sanction by the government (although this doesn't rule out pork&barreling under the table that supplies such groups even if their official standpoint is to condemn such attacks).
It could even be an attempt by a lesser party to undermine the authority of Hezbollah, itself (perhaps hoping to provoke international involvement to bring down Hezbollah so that they can seize control).
There are plenty of reasons why Iran would commit the resources to such an attack.
worldnews.msnbc.msn.com...
www.ft.com...
That is how these people do diplomacy. Personally, if they want to communicate via missile... I say we open up with some AGM-84ER SLAMs and UGM-109 TLAMs and get the discussion started. Few things send as universal of a message as your # spontaneously exploding.
In all fairness - that's a rather subjective claim.
Where I'm from, that's called a precision strike. The difference is, really, academic. A precision strike is intended to compromise a particular asset. Terrorism seeks to create fear and panic in an attempt to raise awareness of the group's cause.
A covert precision strike, when done properly, should leave the attacker ambiguous (though preferably interpreted to be a case of domestic homicide, sabotage, etc) and the events appear accidental, even. The attacker should never be known, and should never take credit.
Terrorism seeks to leave trademarks, to boast about their successful attacks, etc.
They wouldn't need it.
The problem (and Israel knows this), is if they go in shooting things up - they will have to exterminate the entire population. They will never be able to hold an extended nation-building venture like we attempted in Iraq and Afghanistan - and the population will go absolutely ape-# over having Jews setting up a new system of government.
Neither action is going to sit well with the other Arab nations - which is going to lead to some problems (understatement).
Meanwhile - Iran wants nuclear weapons because they are convinced it is the only way they will be able to invade without losing ground to the country they invade (like what happened the past two times they've invaded Israel...)
Of course, Israel could always just bomb Iran even further into the stone age, creating a new generation of fervent terrorist upstarts.
I'll be straight with you. Israel isn't perfect. They are another nation with their own interests and a bad habit of utilizing subterfuge before having the decency to ask (their allies).
However. Iran will never jive with Western nations. Much of the Arab world won't, either. Even in places like the UAE - the relationship is tense, at best. They aren't friends so much as business partners.
Compare this to other nations with 'alien' cultures - like South Korea, Japan, and even China. Sure - we have plenty of things to conflict with China over (more so than with the Japanese and Koreans) - but we are all on a fairly similar page - with the exception of China still getting a hang on the whole concept of human rights.
But I can walk through their streets without any real threat of being drug into a back alley way and beheaded on the internet. They vote in elections and oust their leaders for corruption (being the President of Korea pretty much dooms you to suicide or jail - not sure why anyone runs for the position). They tolerate multiple religious philosophies (not so much in China - but that was the wonderful world of Mao... "Stawrin" - if you will), too.
Maybe the West has everything wrong... but... what can I say - at least we're in the same chapter of the same book in the same library (on the same planet).
Sure, Iran is Trying to kill diplomats! Only an idiot would believe that. Iran may be crazy but certainly NOT stupid. Considering the vast military assets positioned around them it is HIGHLY unlikely Iran had anything to do with the attacks.
That is a logical way of thinking based upon the rationale that diplomacy is a worthwhile effort.
When you remove that premise, your logical argument holds little water. Their values are not the same as our own.
Further complicating the matter is the possibility that while the attack originated from Iran - the group was operating without an official sanction by the government (although this doesn't rule out pork&barreling under the table that supplies such groups even if their official standpoint is to condemn such attacks).
It could even be an attempt by a lesser party to undermine the authority of Hezbollah, itself (perhaps hoping to provoke international involvement to bring down Hezbollah so that they can seize control).
There are plenty of reasons why Iran would commit the resources to such an attack.
worldnews.msnbc.msn.com...
www.ft.com...
That is how these people do diplomacy. Personally, if they want to communicate via missile... I say we open up with some AGM-84ER SLAMs and UGM-109 TLAMs and get the discussion started. Few things send as universal of a message as your # spontaneously exploding.
Netanyahu goes on to say in the article that Iran is the biggest exporter of terrorism in the world.
In all fairness - that's a rather subjective claim.
Seems to me Israel has that distinction when you consider they have killed civilian scientists in Iran and attacked Irans computers with the Suxtent virus.
Where I'm from, that's called a precision strike. The difference is, really, academic. A precision strike is intended to compromise a particular asset. Terrorism seeks to create fear and panic in an attempt to raise awareness of the group's cause.
A covert precision strike, when done properly, should leave the attacker ambiguous (though preferably interpreted to be a case of domestic homicide, sabotage, etc) and the events appear accidental, even. The attacker should never be known, and should never take credit.
Terrorism seeks to leave trademarks, to boast about their successful attacks, etc.
Most likely Israel is trying to create a reason for an attack on Iran. Not by them alone but I suspect they hope to muster support from the US.
They wouldn't need it.
The problem (and Israel knows this), is if they go in shooting things up - they will have to exterminate the entire population. They will never be able to hold an extended nation-building venture like we attempted in Iraq and Afghanistan - and the population will go absolutely ape-# over having Jews setting up a new system of government.
Neither action is going to sit well with the other Arab nations - which is going to lead to some problems (understatement).
Meanwhile - Iran wants nuclear weapons because they are convinced it is the only way they will be able to invade without losing ground to the country they invade (like what happened the past two times they've invaded Israel...)
Of course, Israel could always just bomb Iran even further into the stone age, creating a new generation of fervent terrorist upstarts.
I'll be straight with you. Israel isn't perfect. They are another nation with their own interests and a bad habit of utilizing subterfuge before having the decency to ask (their allies).
However. Iran will never jive with Western nations. Much of the Arab world won't, either. Even in places like the UAE - the relationship is tense, at best. They aren't friends so much as business partners.
Compare this to other nations with 'alien' cultures - like South Korea, Japan, and even China. Sure - we have plenty of things to conflict with China over (more so than with the Japanese and Koreans) - but we are all on a fairly similar page - with the exception of China still getting a hang on the whole concept of human rights.
But I can walk through their streets without any real threat of being drug into a back alley way and beheaded on the internet. They vote in elections and oust their leaders for corruption (being the President of Korea pretty much dooms you to suicide or jail - not sure why anyone runs for the position). They tolerate multiple religious philosophies (not so much in China - but that was the wonderful world of Mao... "Stawrin" - if you will), too.
Maybe the West has everything wrong... but... what can I say - at least we're in the same chapter of the same book in the same library (on the same planet).
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