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This Hoax Effects Everyone!!!

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posted on Feb, 14 2012 @ 07:17 AM
Speaking of CorporateZionistMedia hoaxing: This morning early, Teusday, US Central time, I'm sitting here with my cup o jo and the olde dinasour terrestrial radio on. And it's sounding like this:
"Rick Santorum, Rick Santorum, OMG OMG, he's now in the lead from poling GOP voters!!! The sky is falling! No wait! I mean, it's going back up! Oh yay! Oh happy day! Rick Santorum Rick Santorum! He's our man! OMG OMG! It's Rick Santorum!" (breathless pant pant pant....)

Established as one of thee most corrupt members of Congress in 2006.
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posted on Feb, 14 2012 @ 08:15 AM
CBS = Cant Be Seen... Im so sick of all the lies; the lowering of human kind's potentially GREAT vibration is such a shame. If humans only understood how pure and spiritual they truley are.. they wouldn't pay attention too silly tv boxes, tyranny crap, political madness, the lies the sickness and killing... oh maan what a shame Humans are too the comos

We all know we are being lied too, we jsut remian sush and ignorant too that idea because inside we dont want to believe we are and have been (for a long time) played like a deck of cards.. just accept the it, and realize each one of us is bigger then tyranny, we have far more potential if we ignore politcs and government bullshat.. its all hidden in your spirit, mind and heart

posted on Feb, 14 2012 @ 08:46 AM
reply to post by seachange

Originally posted by seachange
I stopped watching after a couple minutes do to extreme wrongness by the Youtube author. You can easily predict the results on an election based on a sample size of 2,300. This is common sense. All the major polling companies regularly make statements about 300 million Americans based on sample sizes of rarely over 3,000 people. This is how statistics works.

There is no hoax, just people making wrong assumptions about polling that are false. The margin of error isn't based on the available maximum sample size. Everyone in statistics knows that. Just because you can get more samples doesn't mean you need to get more samples. The video author of the OP is simply wrong.

There is no hoax.

Originally posted by darkstar57
I hate being a skunk at this garden party, but I once taught statistics. I also agree with the sentiments and point of view of the majority of ATSrs. But the following is true.
2391 is adequate to give a plus or minus 3 percent at 95 pc confidence to a percentage of voters that voted for say, the Newt.
IF the exit polls were properly conducted and sampled.
check the link for the ifs that have to be answered to get an accurate and representative result.

Your reactions were my initial reactions as well. However you both also understand how awesome statistics are at manipulating our views and understandings (this should be an emphasized part of every statistics course, but it was glossed over in all of mine). Especially how drastically "projection" statistics swing with very subtle changes in source data and data collection methods.


According to the actual vote data they were showing, they had more actual votes than exit poll votes. Yet they projected based on the exit poll numbers rather than their actual numbers. I can't tell for sure, but even if you merge the two it looks like their projection is still off from the actual numbers they had in front of them. It's right there.

Someone may want to argue that the exit polls were from a more complete sample set, but I will simply argue back that when you get to pick your samples (however "random"), the results shouldn't be used for anything. Only the actual votes and only project a winner when you have enough there is no mathematical way someone else could win.

Discourage voters by convincing them their side has already lost. Very old method going back as far as voting and a basic tenet of war. The best way to win the war is to convince the enemy you already have. Then if discovered later claim a mistake by the network(s) and apologize. Rinse and repeat.
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posted on Feb, 14 2012 @ 03:20 PM
reply to post by theindependentjournal

Keep in mind that this is not from the Vatican. It is from Most Holy Family Monastery, Schneider rd, in Fillmore NY. They are about 15 miles from my home.

Brother Diamond usually only comments on the errors of the Roman Catholic Church, so this video is a surprise. However their research and motives are most assuredly on the side of what is right.

I've no connection to them, but must say if you are interested in their opinions on the RC church, send them $20 and they will send you a large package of CD's and books which elaborate on their opinions. Hundreds of hours of reading and watching. Believe me when I tell you , you WILL be enlightened. How they survive without the Vatican shutting them down is beyond me. The bring out a significant portin of the Vatican's dirty laundry and deceptions.

posted on Feb, 15 2012 @ 12:36 AM
reply to post by theindependentjournal

Wow! I'll never get back those first four minutes before stopping this naive conspiracy piece. Most political polls are conducted with less than 2000 participants and are very accurate. There is hard science in how they are conducted and it probably does seem doubtful to the uneducated. I guess the OP is suggesting the media has a time machine and goes forward to find out the winner, and then comes back to lead the story.

posted on Feb, 15 2012 @ 04:10 AM

Originally posted by chr0naut
reply to post by theindependentjournal

I'm not an American, it really doesn't affect me.

You obviously have no idea how much influence the US government has over NZ laws and politics. Just look at the Kim Dotcom raids. NZ police serving the interests of US corporations. And the NZ SAS being led to the middle east...

posted on Feb, 16 2012 @ 06:46 AM
reply to post by BLACKCLOUD21

I am not American but their foreign policy does have far reaching effect. One thing I noticed is whoever sits in the White House whether Republican or makes not much difference to the world at large because the policies would still be more or less the same. Why is this so?

posted on Feb, 16 2012 @ 07:27 AM
S N F politicians in the society we live in today can not serve the people ..they have no power in any shape or form to control MONEY even if they have good intentions they can only serve to maintain the Status Quo of debt

as long as we allow our heads of state to be hand picked from our banking system (the real decision makers)
nothing will change,only get worse..

Ron Paul is apart of that system

posted on Feb, 16 2012 @ 09:28 AM
reply to post by sitchin

I like Ron Paul's anti war stance tremendously, as I am totally anti these (sic) "wars", (actually, they are criminal violent home invasions in which robbery, rape, murder, take place) But I worry about his (to my knowledge, but someone correct me if I'm wrong) desire to give struggling citizens (especially those without 'bootstraps') even more struggle, with a Greece like austerity, while handing free reign to the robber barons of industry and commerce, 'thinking' that they will trickle down (like a golden..shower) all kinds of goodness to us, like a horn o plenty, once unfettered from taxes and REGULATION

posted on Feb, 16 2012 @ 01:35 PM
Everyone is missing the point.

Nowhere in the Constitution are people given the right to vote in Party elections, only a general election.
So all the boo hooing about the Party's not counting the vote is a hoax, they can count them any way they desire, or throw them all out and place whomever they want in the General Election. The Dems did it when they tossed Hillary out and ran with Obama.

posted on Feb, 17 2012 @ 01:26 PM

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posted on Feb, 17 2012 @ 01:44 PM

Originally posted by DrMattMaddix

America is the shining beacon of Freedom on the hill. It's hated by many for various reasons.

And yet, historically it has installed dictatorships all around the world, among others in my home country Greece in 1967. Is this how a shining beacon of Freedom behaves?

Originally posted by DrMattMaddix
Do you think Obama's actions have affected you in any way since 2008???

No, although here in Greece we call the POTUS the Planetarch, the World Leader, ever since Communism in Eastern Europe and Russia collapsed. And as the history of the last few decades shows us, we live in a pax americana world, where everybody has to bow down to the might of the USA. Look at Serbia, look at Iraq and Afghanistan and finally Lybia. And if the Russians did not have strong ties to the regime in Syria, NATO would have invaded them too, to liberate them of course.

posted on Jun, 23 2012 @ 04:29 PM
reply to post by Redeemer

our vote wont matter untill we wake up and take control of our own money obama is only a puppet like all the rest,none of them want to end up like JFK. if we pull our money out of the banks they might listen.they need use to work for there money our votes a joke.

posted on Jun, 23 2012 @ 04:49 PM
reply to post by TripleDoubleSingle

we need another JFK his moffia did a great job, he wanted it to be made in america let the other countrys buy from use while we were proud to work for what we got

posted on Jul, 27 2012 @ 04:30 AM
The problem is much worse than most people think. Many people will say the problem is corruption but the problem with that is that things have to be clean before they can be corrupted. I don't think our government has been clean in a very long time. But worse than that, it's really not possible to have a clean political system. That's the ugly truth humanity has been running scared from for ages. Even if you could set up a reasonably clean government, it would start to rot instantly.

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