Originally posted by TruthExposed

in closing I just want to say masons in modern times are not evil, associated with the devil, do not run the world, or any of the other BS i hear alot. Modern masons TYPICALLY are nothing more than bored and lonely elderly who are just hanging out to avoid their mundane home lives, playing dressup, and doing "respectable" things for their community so they can feel better about themselves.

Hmmm. Generalise much? Typically, unless your definition of "elderly" means older than mid-30s, I'd suggest you're more than a little off. Certainly there are older Masons for whom Masonry represents another vector of socialising in their retirement years. But to suggest that the majority of lodges are comprised of old men, living out their twilight years in circumstances of quiet desperation just isn't on nor accurate. It may have some truth in some country and small-town lodges but in the urban situation of my lodge (and virtually every lodge within 60km), the median age is dropping quickly, reflecting the influx in the last 5 years of late 20's/ early 30s new members who've not only gone through all the degrees but continued on into the officers' chairs. I'm sorry these "elderly" men meet with your contempt.

Originally posted by TruthExposed
As far as making decisions that control and govern the world - these geezers can rarely come to decisive agreement on what type of sandwich to make for the meals at their meetings. It's nothing more than a very odd fetish club that isn't uniform anymore. Prince Hall aside, every state in the US has a "grand lodge" that presides over it and over time the rituals and ceremonies have little in common with each other from state to state. Words, grips, and signs are about the only thing one lodge will have in common with one in another state, and almost any american mason could watch a degree performed in another country and not be able to tell you which degree it was lol. The club started out moderately uniform allegedly, but lodges in modern times are just "old, wierd, felon-free, no-girls-allowed clubhouses"...until they're rushed out by their wives for the OES meeting >

Wow. That's one contemptuous viewpoint you slug around there. Must be wearisome.

Originally posted by TruthExposed
And for any of you who read this and became butthurt about it: I'm not a mason; masons just apparently suck at keeping secrets - MORESO in the states.

Just a correction about your blanket assertion. "masons" don't "suck at keeping secrets"; just a select few who clearly never took their obligations to heart. It speaks mostly about their character (or lack thereof) than anything else

HTH
Fitz

I even capitalized typically for you, but you got butthurt anyway. *shrug* apologies.... In this area, membership continues to become more expensive, lodges continue to close, charters abandoned, and seniors seem to be the only active "rank fillers" anymore. The sandwich example was meant to be fun, not make you cry and was meant to give the OP a sense of a human group where everyone has a say and agreements are hard to arrive at as opposed to some controlling group of political overlords that ride their pigs and rule the world.

As for your assumptions towards the knowledgeable, the most recent example I can give you is someone who quit/was asked to leave because they converted and became Buddhist. I suppose if he's legit in his conversion, making him swear to God is akin to making me swear to unicorn.

Because of what you chose to nitpick, I appreciate you passively confirming that everything else is accurate - much appreciation.

The delta of enoch was a triangle made from gold on which the name of the Lord was inscribed. It was hid by Enoch and his son Methuselah in an underground vault. They knew the flood was coming and they wanted this to survive the flood.

Hiram also had a triangle made from gold which he wore around his neck. It had the secret word of the master mason inscribed on it. Some believe this was the same word as enoch inscribed on his triangle, some believe that it was actually enochs delta.

Before Hiram died he threw the triangle down a well so his murderers could not get the word. This triangle was supposedly recovered. This is the part I don't understand, If it was recovered then how did the word become lost ie it is supposed to be written on the masters jewel?

This Ma Ha Bone was a substitute for the lost word until a time when a special person will come who will recover the word.

A few possibilities

1. Lord of the dead

2. I was abandoned

3. My bones

4. What, the Builder

5. Secret handshake - Lion's Paw

Cowan

I think if there is any secret behind this word it will be in its numerical value.