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U.S. Navy: Iran prepares suicide bomb boats in Gulf

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posted on Feb, 12 2012 @ 07:10 PM
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Originally posted by seabag

Originally posted by conspiracy88
FIRST: FREEDOM IS TOTALLY FREE

Second: Maybe this is where the false flag will come from? We have a variety to pick from right now. First they told us Hezbollah and the cartels will try and attack us here. Then it was that Iran has missiles that can reach the US. And now they're suicidal and going kamikaze.

All this stuff yet they can't do the simple task of keeping their scientists safe and protected.
It seems like they're just combining every aspect of an evil scary terrorist and morphing them into SuperMegaTerroristitron. Next, it will be that Iranians have covered our skies in toxic chemicals.

"Look, they've been doing them for years! They call them JihadTrails! Up there! In your skies! Look!"


Freedom is not FREE. On what planet do you live, sir? Ask the people of Iran how free they are; ask the Brits how they fought for freedom against the Nazis. Ask the South Koreans who fought the north. etc. etc.

Freedom is fought for and/or defended with force/show of force. Please provide an example of a free country that didn’t fight another to gain freedom from oppression.

I’ll wait…


New Zealand.

We are effectively still part of the commonwealth, but nobody has ever invaded, nobody has ever attacked us.

Sure, the Moriori were here first, then came the maori who wiped them out, then came the colonial brits, who settled and effected a treaty for people to live in peace here. We have never had to fight for our freedom, because we promote it, instead of denying freedoms to our own people.


p.s, your idea of freedom is wholly different to mine.

Come down here sometime and see what real freedom is like, no full body scanners in airports, no being told to move along by police for just standing with your friends in a public place, no gun toting rednecks who feel the need to carry a gun everywhere they go. No war monger leaders who brainwash the public into supporting illegal wars. No going to a bar and getting shot over a disagreement with a drunk kid. No police shooting people who don't deserve to die.

This is my freedom, what is yours ?


edit on 12/2/2012 by Dachende because: (no reason given)




posted on Feb, 12 2012 @ 07:49 PM
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Does New Zealand have hot chicks?

Your country sounds bad ass



posted on Feb, 12 2012 @ 07:58 PM
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Originally posted by seabag
reply to post by FraternitasSaturni
 



It doesnt demonstrate the merits of dying for a cause. Wow... who am I talking to here? It actually teaches the concept of revenge and that all that blood must be accounted for by the new generations. Its not dying for a cause... its respecting those who die and that its up to the new generation to take revenge for their loss.


Really?


Any nation that teaches children to suicide bomb is SICK. Any nation that teaches children to hate Jews (or any other people) is SICK. Why you and others keep defending the psychopaths in Iran is beyond me.



If you think it doesn’t happen then do some homework, bud.





lol seabag
this is no different from gi joe on saturday morning
less violent actually
also that's not mickey mouse
it's farfour



posted on Feb, 12 2012 @ 08:39 PM
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Originally posted by Dachende

Originally posted by seabag

Originally posted by conspiracy88
FIRST: FREEDOM IS TOTALLY FREE

Second: Maybe this is where the false flag will come from? We have a variety to pick from right now. First they told us Hezbollah and the cartels will try and attack us here. Then it was that Iran has missiles that can reach the US. And now they're suicidal and going kamikaze.

All this stuff yet they can't do the simple task of keeping their scientists safe and protected.
It seems like they're just combining every aspect of an evil scary terrorist and morphing them into SuperMegaTerroristitron. Next, it will be that Iranians have covered our skies in toxic chemicals.

"Look, they've been doing them for years! They call them JihadTrails! Up there! In your skies! Look!"


Freedom is not FREE. On what planet do you live, sir? Ask the people of Iran how free they are; ask the Brits how they fought for freedom against the Nazis. Ask the South Koreans who fought the north. etc. etc.

Freedom is fought for and/or defended with force/show of force. Please provide an example of a free country that didn’t fight another to gain freedom from oppression.

I’ll wait…


New Zealand.

We are effectively still part of the commonwealth, but nobody has ever invaded, nobody has ever attacked us.

Sure, the Moriori were here first, then came the maori who wiped them out, then came the colonial brits, who settled and effected a treaty for people to live in peace here. We have never had to fight for our freedom, because we promote it, instead of denying freedoms to our own people.


p.s, your idea of freedom is wholly different to mine.

Come down here sometime and see what real freedom is like, no full body scanners in airports, no being told to move along by police for just standing with your friends in a public place, no gun toting rednecks who feel the need to carry a gun everywhere they go. No war monger leaders who brainwash the public into supporting illegal wars. No going to a bar and getting shot over a disagreement with a drunk kid. No police shooting people who don't deserve to die.

This is my freedom, what is yours ?


edit on 12/2/2012 by Dachende because: (no reason given)


So your definition of freedom is living without security at the airport? lol? Do you really think X ray body scans are scary? Why are you so people so paranoid? Of what?

And the right to bear arms, our 2nd amendment, is the best amendment we have next to the first. It guarantees that the United States of America is a country that can never be annexed by a foreign nation, because nobody would dare invade and occupy a country where at any given second a population of 309,000,000+ citizens turn into an armed militia.



posted on Feb, 12 2012 @ 08:44 PM
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Originally posted by Dachende

Originally posted by seabag

Originally posted by conspiracy88
FIRST: FREEDOM IS TOTALLY FREE

Second: Maybe this is where the false flag will come from? We have a variety to pick from right now. First they told us Hezbollah and the cartels will try and attack us here. Then it was that Iran has missiles that can reach the US. And now they're suicidal and going kamikaze.

All this stuff yet they can't do the simple task of keeping their scientists safe and protected.
It seems like they're just combining every aspect of an evil scary terrorist and morphing them into SuperMegaTerroristitron. Next, it will be that Iranians have covered our skies in toxic chemicals.

"Look, they've been doing them for years! They call them JihadTrails! Up there! In your skies! Look!"


Freedom is not FREE. On what planet do you live, sir? Ask the people of Iran how free they are; ask the Brits how they fought for freedom against the Nazis. Ask the South Koreans who fought the north. etc. etc.

Freedom is fought for and/or defended with force/show of force. Please provide an example of a free country that didn’t fight another to gain freedom from oppression.

I’ll wait…


New Zealand.

We are effectively still part of the commonwealth, but nobody has ever invaded, nobody has ever attacked us.

Sure, the Moriori were here first, then came the maori who wiped them out, then came the colonial brits, who settled and effected a treaty for people to live in peace here. We have never had to fight for our freedom, because we promote it, instead of denying freedoms to our own people.


p.s, your idea of freedom is wholly different to mine.

Come down here sometime and see what real freedom is like, no full body scanners in airports, no being told to move along by police for just standing with your friends in a public place, no gun toting rednecks who feel the need to carry a gun everywhere they go. No war monger leaders who brainwash the public into supporting illegal wars. No going to a bar and getting shot over a disagreement with a drunk kid. No police shooting people who don't deserve to die.

This is my freedom, what is yours ?


edit on 12/2/2012 by Dachende because: (no reason given)


Hes exactly right when he says, "what world are you living in?"....

If you really think that we havent had to fight for the right to exist then you didnt attend a history class in your life ever....
edit on 12-2-2012 by theBigToe because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 12 2012 @ 08:45 PM
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If Iran cuts off the straits of Hodez, it would badly affect the world's economy since it was entirely dependent on oil.



posted on Feb, 12 2012 @ 08:45 PM
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They have been preparing to swarn the entire US fleet for quite a while
it doesnt cost much to build a small and very fast boat
with the tech they have today .. im sure these boats are suicide bomb drones
that can be RC by far

you take 50 of them and lock them up on a carrier to zig zag them until they hit
at a different place

check this old thread
Iran says it has 100 vessels to confront each US warship


Iran has set aside 100 military vessels to confront each US warship that poses a threat, a former naval chief in the Islamic Republic's Revolutionary Guard said Saturday.

Gen. Morteza Saffari was quoted by the conservative weekly Panjereh as saying that troops aboard US warships are "morsels" for Iran to target in the event of any American threat against Iran.

In 2008, Iran put its most powerful military force, the Revolutionary Guard, in charge of defending the country's territorial waters in the Persian Gulf, a vital oil route.


Sorry its not 50 .. they have 100 for each us warship
all of them zig zaging fast .. it will be impossible to stop them all

Iran have a big chance to win doing exactly that
adding all the missile they can launch
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posted on Feb, 12 2012 @ 08:47 PM
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Originally posted by Ben81
They have been preparing to swarn the entire US fleet for quite a while
it doesnt cost much to build a small and very fast boat
with the tech they have today .. im sure these boats are suicide bomb drones
that can be RC by far

you take 50 of them and lock them up on a carrier to zig zag them until they hit
at a different place

Iran says it has 100 vessels to confront each US warship


Iran has set aside 100 military vessels to confront each US warship that poses a threat, a former naval chief in the Islamic Republic's Revolutionary Guard said Saturday.

Gen. Morteza Saffari was quoted by the conservative weekly Panjereh as saying that troops aboard US warships are "morsels" for Iran to target in the event of any American threat against Iran.

In 2008, Iran put its most powerful military force, the Revolutionary Guard, in charge of defending the country's territorial waters in the Persian Gulf, a vital oil route.


Sorry its not 50 .. they have 100 for each us warship
all of them zig zaging fast .. it will be impossible to stop them all

Iran have a big chance to win doing exactly that
adding all the missile they can launch
edit on 2/12/2012 by Ben81 because: (no reason given)


lol I think Irans been playing too much Starcraft.



posted on Feb, 12 2012 @ 08:50 PM
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I think any war mission is suicidle , there is no really gaurantee you will win or lose..,



posted on Feb, 12 2012 @ 08:50 PM
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lol

it would be my strategy in SC ahah
and they have probably mined the place well
many canons (turret) are aiming directly at the strait of hormuz

the SOH is literaly the most guarded and secure route .. because its their strait



posted on Feb, 12 2012 @ 08:56 PM
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lol seabag
this is no different from gi joe on saturday morning
less violent actually
also that's not mickey mouse
it's farfour


Talk is cheap!!

Please provide a single video played on American TV depicting the US military killing Iranians or any other country’s military or even advocating such action.

I’ll wait…



posted on Feb, 12 2012 @ 08:58 PM
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lol The first thing I thought of when I read the article was massing lings on tanks.



posted on Feb, 12 2012 @ 08:59 PM
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Originally posted by reaxi0n
reply to post by Dachende
 


Does New Zealand have hot chicks?

Your country sounds bad ass


Sure does.
Most of the guys are into sheep, so it leaves the other three of us to fight over the hot chick!



posted on Feb, 12 2012 @ 09:01 PM
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So your definition of freedom is living without security at the airport? lol? Do you really think X ray body scans are scary? Why are you so people so paranoid? Of what?


When your government treats its citizens like potential terrorists, there is a loss of freedom. I think every person fears losing their freedom, and the US government is taking their citizens away faster than any other nation.




And the right to bear arms, our 2nd amendment, is the best amendment we have next to the first. It guarantees that the United States of America is a country that can never be annexed by a foreign nation, because nobody would dare invade and occupy a country where at any given second a population of 309,000,000+ citizens turn into an armed militia.


309 million?
Planning on arming babies, children and senior citizens?

15-64 years: 66.8% (male 104,411,352/female 104,808,064)

Link.
That isn't counting the ones confined to hospital, handicapped, obese, not willing to fight, etc.
Plus, having the 2nd amendment is allowing your own people to kill each other. #1 in gun related deaths in non 3rd world countries.



posted on Feb, 12 2012 @ 09:04 PM
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New Zealand.

We are effectively still part of the commonwealth, but nobody has ever invaded, nobody has ever attacked us.


GRAND!!!


That’s one out of hundreds!! Boy, my entire argument has been shot down now, huh?



posted on Feb, 12 2012 @ 09:04 PM
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Originally posted by seabag
reply to post by DerepentLEstranger
 



lol seabag
this is no different from gi joe on saturday morning
less violent actually
also that's not mickey mouse
it's farfour


Talk is cheap!!

Please provide a single video played on American TV depicting the US military killing Iranians or any other country’s military or even advocating such action.

I’ll wait…



Jericho. Showed that the US government killed it's own citizens and then destroyed Iran and North Korea after they made them the scapegoat. Is that a good enough example? If not, I will see if I can find another. That was the first one that came to mind.



posted on Feb, 12 2012 @ 09:06 PM
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Originally posted by seabag
reply to post by Dachende
 



New Zealand.

We are effectively still part of the commonwealth, but nobody has ever invaded, nobody has ever attacked us.


GRAND!!!


That’s one out of hundreds!! Boy, my entire argument has been shot down now, huh?





You asked for one example. You got two. What exactly do you want? Your argument has not been shot down, but, ask for what you want, or more specifically, exactly what you want.



posted on Feb, 12 2012 @ 09:09 PM
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Originally posted by superman2012
reply to post by theBigToe
 




So your definition of freedom is living without security at the airport? lol? Do you really think X ray body scans are scary? Why are you so people so paranoid? Of what?


When your government treats its citizens like potential terrorists, there is a loss of freedom. I think every person fears losing their freedom, and the US government is taking their citizens away faster than any other nation.




And the right to bear arms, our 2nd amendment, is the best amendment we have next to the first. It guarantees that the United States of America is a country that can never be annexed by a foreign nation, because nobody would dare invade and occupy a country where at any given second a population of 309,000,000+ citizens turn into an armed militia.


309 million?
Planning on arming babies, children and senior citizens?

15-64 years: 66.8% (male 104,411,352/female 104,808,064)

Link.
That isn't counting the ones confined to hospital, handicapped, obese, not willing to fight, etc.
Plus, having the 2nd amendment is allowing your own people to kill each other. #1 in gun related deaths in non 3rd world countries.


I understand this, I am in agreement with you there that our rights are being raped, but regardless of what laws they pass, they arent rounding you up and executing you over opposing the government. You could have no rights whatsoever and live somewhere, like Iran, where any kind of opposition to the government is punishable by death, and you wouldnt even think about trying to change legislation in the country without having one, a lot of money, or influence. There you cant live any life that isnt the life the government wants for you. Here you can live whatever life you want regardless of what the government thinks about it.



posted on Feb, 12 2012 @ 09:12 PM
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Originally posted by superman2012
Jericho. Showed that the US government killed it's own citizens and then destroyed Iran and North Korea after they made them the scapegoat. Is that a good enough example? If not, I will see if I can find another. That was the first one that came to mind.


First off...the challenge wasn't to you.

Second...where's the video


Third...Jerico is fiction for adults and I posted CARTOONS. Please demonstrate how American cartoons advocate death to other countries as the Iranian (and Iraian sponsored) cartoons depict.
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posted on Feb, 12 2012 @ 09:15 PM
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Are you sure about that? Want to bet that it will be a lot less free in the next 20 years? 10,000 ATS points?




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