Cop allegedly pulled gun on pregnant woman over too many grocery items in checkout

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posted on Feb, 12 2012 @ 08:27 PM
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Originally posted by madhatr137
Law Enforcement is a public service career field that represents authority.

Most people choose such career paths highlighting a desire to serve the public.
Some people choose such career paths because they crave authority.

We mustn't judge the many because of the actions of the few.


A title of authority does not invoke power, it invokes responsibility and part of that responsibility when you are serving the public is to ensure that your are acting in a manner that is conducive to your responsibility to those whom you are there to serve.




posted on Feb, 12 2012 @ 08:38 PM
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Anyone who checks out in an express line having several items more than the SPECIFIED MAXIMUM should be arrested anyways.

These such IDIOTS think that they are so special that the rules somehow do not apply to them. Most of them have no respect for anyone else and need to be fined or arrested anyways right on the spot.



posted on Feb, 12 2012 @ 08:51 PM
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Originally posted by THE_PROFESSIONAL
Ok I'm with the cop on this one too many times do people go through the express lane with a lot of things and I've said things many times of course I would naturally want them arrested


1. It is pretty unlikely that exceeding the express lane's limit violates any law in that jurisdiction.

2. Laws and police regulations DO exist regarding the use of deadly force. It is pretty unlikely they provide justifacation in this case.



posted on Feb, 12 2012 @ 09:00 PM
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TextPolice in Kendall County, Illinois said Friday that they were investigating whether an off-duty officer drew his firearm and pointed it at a pregnant woman because she had more items than Walmart recommends for self-checkout lanes.
from op's source....it was a self check out line meaning no clerk at all and she only exceeding the recommended number of items ive gone through those thigns with a whole cart and no one has complained dont even recall seeing signs saying dont do that,clerks only show up if you need to show id for something you scan at those areas so it was basically a cop(not in uniform) walking up to two people at a self check out when i would assume it being a wall mart potently one or more other lines were available?



posted on Feb, 12 2012 @ 10:04 PM
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That man should clearly not be a cop if he behaves like that off duty, with no self-control.

However, I absolutely hate people who buy hundreds of dollars in groceries and use the self-check out.. which takes so much longer than if they got in a line and let someone check their groceries for them.



posted on Feb, 12 2012 @ 10:27 PM
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[img]http://www.ibabuzz.com...[/img] first time trying to post an image so wish me luck this is what they were doing when they were "holding up the line" at the self check out only posting this because i think some people might not have seen one of these before



posted on Feb, 12 2012 @ 10:40 PM
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Funny thing about this, is he is supposed to be a "peace officer" trained to defuse situations, when he was the cause of it all.



posted on Feb, 12 2012 @ 11:00 PM
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Originally posted by Kenrichaed
Its about time someone stands up to these fools who think that the rules don't apply to them. I don't know how many times i've been in the express lane at the store and some idiot thinks they can bring their whole cart full of groceries when it clearly says 15 items or less.

This is an obvious sign of the breakdown of society and before you know it these people will start disregarding other rules and laws in society. They obviously think they are more important than everyone else and that rules don't apply to them.

I appreciate this cop standing up for the rights of the average citizen. You don't want a gun pulled on you than follow the rules.


As I was scanning through this post your post struck a chord with me. These are the rules of the store and for the store to enforce. A cops job is to enforce laws, not enforce rules of a super market. If a customer was breaking the rules then they can ask them to leave the store and have a cop possibly escort them out if they won't leave the property of the store, being that the store is privately owned.

Rules and laws are not the same thing and should not be treated or thought of as such. When you go down that road you'll find that we will become a police state rather quickly.



posted on Feb, 12 2012 @ 11:21 PM
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Originally posted by jacobe001
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Funny thing about this, is he is supposed to be a "peace officer" trained to defuse situations, when he was the cause of it all.


Sadly this is true! Hubby and I discussed something similar to this. That police used to be called peace officers, but not anymore. The patrol cars in our town used to say protect and serve, but then a couple of years ago they changed it to pride and professionalism. Uniforms change as well, they look more like military. Look at how militarized our police forces are these days! They are no longer public servants or peace officers who protect and serve.



posted on Feb, 13 2012 @ 12:40 AM
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Originally posted by HangTheTraitors
Anyone who checks out in an express line having several items more than the SPECIFIED MAXIMUM should be arrested anyways.

These such IDIOTS think that they are so special that the rules somehow do not apply to them. Most of them have no respect for anyone else and need to be fined or arrested anyways right on the spot.



are you serious? or are you trying to ignore the bigger issue here. a man pulled a gun on a family for a crazy reason. You must be psycho just like that off duty cop huh! believe me, it shows, you don't have to answer this post..


then again I suppose you are all mighty and real special, and never ever bend or break rules anywhere or anytime to fit your needs do you? the next time you do, I hope some creep is around the corner ready to stick a gun in your nose and scare the life outta you just to prove a point. you've probably never been in a real life or death situation, so if I were you, I would tread carefully on how you criticize....
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posted on Feb, 13 2012 @ 02:03 AM
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It’s not just cops that are messed up or crazy...I have heard of a few different occurrences of people killing others for simply defriending then on FB... and so many other ridiculous random crimes .This world especially, our society it just messed up. We allow it and make it so...I was just writing a paper about this sort of thing recently and a lot of it has to do with our society. How we shove everything in people’s faces through the media, exaggerate, or downplay things, we are too lenient on some crimes and too extreme on others. We have no consistency and our priorities are out of whack. Not to mention we are a spoiled country that thinks everything should be handed to us, which is another reason why our crime rate is so high because the punishment does not outweigh the reward of crime and people find it easier to do bad then to work hard to get the good in life.

Not all fit into this category, but why is that so many people come from other countries, countries where getting stoned or assaulted is a common occurrence, come here and do not become ruthless ,selfish, lazy, imbeciles( like most Americans) many actually try to make something out of their lives. There are many countries that have social standards that make us look like barbarians. There is a country in Northern Europe for example that is a very safe, level headed and polite society. They are keen on etiquette and they even have rules that can get you fined or arrested for such things as being too loud after 10 pm. What rules do we have in America that are actually implemented? Even murder you can get away with in this country (drop name here of an obviously guilty person who was acquitted) the list is so long. Most prisons in this country are like free hotels and the likely hood of anyone even spending their full sentence is slim to none. There is no rehabilitation in this country because no one gives a crap to actually try to change anything because it cost too much money or too much time. I mean I am neither saying that this situation was warranted nor do I condone it, but in today’s world it is no wonder that police and others alike are crude, cold and dirty (or crazy) because they are just keeping up with the rest of society.

With that said it is the stores policy not the law that you have to have so many items in a checkout lane. He was off duty so he probably shouldn’t have had his gun on him in the first place, did he show his badge? If not then he was probably not a cop and even if he was there was no warrant for any of it so he should be arrested for assault or at least stupidity…when are they going to pass a law for that? I know so many people that would be in jail ha-ha!



posted on Feb, 13 2012 @ 05:41 AM
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Ummm...wow. I was just at this particular Walmart the other night. It is on the way home from a friend's house and convenient to stop at to pick stuff up, but maybe I will have to rethink going there anymore if this cop might be shopping there in the future. I have no doubt at all that he was so confident in pulling his gun out because he knew that he was likely to be the only one armed. This is Illinois, after all, the most anti-gun state in the country and CCW is absolutely illegal here, unfortunately. Otherwise the guy might have thought twice before whipping his gun out because he was in a bad mood/hurry/whatever.

On the other hand, I am friends with the daughter of the sheriff of Kendall county and I have met her dad and talked with him a number of times. I like him and think that he is a good guy and my opinion, based on talking with him in the past, is that he will look at this and investigate it fairly. This isn't some corrupt city cop who is mad with power. He is a little small town sheriff and he takes his job and his oath seriously.

Either way, I think that I might still avoid this store in the future just in case this cop with the anger issues happens to be there at the time. I don't tolerate people like him well and have in the past, and inevitably will again in the future, tell people like that exactly, in graphic ugly words that are censored on this site, what I think of their bad behavior. So, to avoid being shot, better to shop elsewhere.

Take care,
Cindi



posted on Feb, 13 2012 @ 05:54 AM
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Just a wee question, from someone across the pond.... but why is this cop in Walmart?
Did someone in the store call the police and report a perp abusing the maximum items rule, and the cop got there immediately. Or, do cops get stationed at the stores?

On many trips to the US I have seen cop cars sitting parked up at shopping malls and big box stores, so maybe there is some unwritten contract by the store owners to have police "protection" on hand during opening hours?



posted on Feb, 13 2012 @ 06:40 AM
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The thing about this issue is, it was an off duty cop, doing his own shopping.
The lady in question was not violating a Law but a store policy, of which is none of his business.
If he has a problem with them not enforcing store policy, then he needs to go somewhere else to shop and
keep his dam mouth shut and mind his own business!



posted on Feb, 13 2012 @ 10:07 AM
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Originally posted by Britguy
Just a wee question, from someone across the pond.... but why is this cop in Walmart?
Did someone in the store call the police and report a perp abusing the maximum items rule, and the cop got there immediately. Or, do cops get stationed at the stores?

On many trips to the US I have seen cop cars sitting parked up at shopping malls and big box stores, so maybe there is some unwritten contract by the store owners to have police "protection" on hand during opening hours?


They may have just been shopping, or maybe there is more to the story and they were called there. As for malls and big box stores they hire private security companies to patrol and most of them look like real cops. Their uniforms all the way down to their cars look just like cop cars, but are not. We call them all "mall cops"
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posted on Feb, 13 2012 @ 10:15 AM
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The cop was not in uniform, and he was in line behind the couple. He was just a shopper like anyone else. And, as a shopper, he had no authority to pull his weapon in any capacity, unless he was in fear for his own life, or the life of someone else. He committed a felony.



posted on Feb, 13 2012 @ 10:26 AM
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Originally posted by n00bUK
If this turns out to be true, he should be fired. This man has clearly let the power go to his head if he thinks he can confront people, with a gun over too many items for a certain isle.


Fired is not good enough. This cop needs to be behind bars for threatening the life of three innocent people. We have to quit coddling and excusing these crooks with badges. We need to hold them to the same standards that apply to everyone else.
What do you think would happen if I pulled a gun on that cop and his pregnant wife over the same issue? I would be dead or in jail and everyone would say that the cop was justified in killing me. There is no way that we as a society should just let this cop walk away from this with the only consequence being that he lose his job.
I have to quit reading these posts about abusive cops. They are ruining my day.
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posted on Feb, 13 2012 @ 10:29 AM
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I agree, but it doesn't even matter that he is a cop. He was acting as a civilian. He had a legal gun, just like I have, he was shopping at Walmart, just like I do. He got in an altercation, just like many of us have. He decided to pull his weapon out!
That is a felony!

Cop or no cop, you don't pull out a weapon, in a Walmart, over a silly altercation with an unarmed person.

The fact that he is a cop shouldn't even cross anyone's mind. Not the police, not the DA, not the press. He was just a guy, with a gun, acting like an idiot, and he needs his right to carry revoked, and he needs a penalty for his action. In Florida it would be a minimum of 10 years in jail. (Which I actually disagree with the 10-20-life law anyway, but pulling a gun without just cause does deserve a penalty.)



posted on Feb, 13 2012 @ 05:41 PM
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Yes I am dumb because I do not like fat people. OK.



posted on Feb, 15 2012 @ 05:36 PM
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Yesterday I read online that an 18 year old boy was shot and killed in his home by a cop because he was flushing marijuana down the toilet. Then I read a 51 year old teacher was shot and killed by a cop in a parking lot because she rolled down the window when he told her to stop. Then I read a Marine was shot in the back and killed by a cop as he was walking away unarmed after crashing his car in a parking lot. Shot while his daughters watched. Now this. I don't have t.v. but I doubt very seriously any of this is getting out over the conventional news sources. WTF is going on? Can somebody tell me?





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