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The Illuminati and the Free Masons and their TRUE relationship

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posted on Feb, 12 2012 @ 11:48 AM
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reply to post by AzureSky
 


Meritocracy is one name used.
New World Order, Meritocracy.

It doesn't matter the name. What matters is the message.




posted on Feb, 12 2012 @ 11:49 AM
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Originally posted by RandalFlagg
They want to bring in a NWO were all the people are slaves and view the elite as gods!


That has already happened, and has been going on for thousands of years. Where you living? Under a rock?



posted on Feb, 12 2012 @ 11:50 AM
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Originally posted by RandalFlagg
They want to bring in a NWO were all the people are slaves and view the elite as gods!


Thats sounds suspiciously like whats already here...

Also they dont have their "own" religion, free masons only have to belive in "a" god, no specifics it could be a christian god or a buddist god.

Also just because i know this is true, i know a muslim mason, yes, really.



posted on Feb, 12 2012 @ 11:50 AM
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Originally posted by RandalFlagg
They want to bring in a NWO were all the people are slaves and view the elite as gods!


This is true. That is why society has been dumbed down exponentially over these past 100 or so years.
Once the majority of the population have received enough hormones and sleeper plague in their system and the rest of us are just zoning out for internet-miles on high grade pot, THEY will introduce us to our new GOD, the "other world people" or "aliens". This will most likely be achieved through a combination of haarp and laser holograms.
I mean, first: bring the world to it's knees in the 20's by capitalizing on a fraudulent system, thus creating a permanent upper ruling class.
Then, own all industries and control the world markets.
Create a drug culture and start brainwashing and destroying all positive foundations of society, 1960's.
Numerous world conflicts fighting over ism's, whether it be communism, socialism, feminism, capitalism, etcism,,,
We drive around now in cars that we couldn't possible fix on our own. We have no idea how to make a fire from scratch except for watching the history channel. most everything we write, take photos of or video, exists in a digital form somewhere on some hard drive or disk, soon to fade away. we spk n stpd shrt txt tlk n we be comin animls n sht dog, nah mean??

We might as well line up outside of the slaughterhouse and get it over with or something



posted on Feb, 12 2012 @ 11:50 AM
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Originally posted by StrangeWayz
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Very interesting, is this just a theory or does it have facts backing it up? how do you know so much about them?


It is just fact. How do I know? Because maybe I am in Illuminati member? Maybe I know someone who is? Maybe just maybe the truth has been right there infront of everyone to view, but just has been surrounded by a grotest amount of lies and propaganda?



posted on Feb, 12 2012 @ 11:51 AM
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Originally posted by TimesUp

Originally posted by RandalFlagg
They want to bring in a NWO were all the people are slaves and view the elite as gods!


This is true. That is why society has been dumbed down exponentially over these past 100 or so years.
Once the majority of the population have received enough hormones and sleeper plague in their system and the rest of us are just zoning out for internet-miles on high grade pot, THEY will introduce us to our new GOD, the "other world people" or "aliens". This will most likely be achieved through a combination of haarp and laser holograms.
I mean, first: bring the world to it's knees in the 20's by capitalizing on a fraudulent system, thus creating a permanent upper ruling class.
Then, own all industries and control the world markets.
Create a drug culture and start brainwashing and destroying all positive foundations of society, 1960's.
Numerous world conflicts fighting over ism's, whether it be communism, socialism, feminism, capitalism, etcism,,,
We drive around now in cars that we couldn't possible fix on our own. We have no idea how to make a fire from scratch except for watching the history channel. most everything we write, take photos of or video, exists in a digital form somewhere on some hard drive or disk, soon to fade away. we spk n stpd shrt txt tlk n we be comin animls n sht dog, nah mean??

We might as well line up outside of the slaughterhouse and get it over with or something


Que in disinformation and distractions from the harshness of reality. Dude please go away with your conspiracy mumbo jumbo. You mix truths with lies. It is sad and pathetic.
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posted on Feb, 12 2012 @ 11:53 AM
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Originally posted by Biigs

Originally posted by RandalFlagg
They want to bring in a NWO were all the people are slaves and view the elite as gods!


Thats sounds suspiciously like whats already here...

Also they dont have their "own" religion, free masons only have to belive in "a" god, no specifics it could be a christian god or a buddist god.

Also just because i know this is true, i know a muslim mason, yes, really.


No true Illuminati or Free Mason member would ever affiliate themselves with an abrahamic religion. In fact, the society itself pretty much is at war with these religions.

Now I'm not saying they wouldn't lie and say they did in order to escape persecution.
edit on 12-2-2012 by Slavich because: (no reason given)


But Illuminati members religion is Illumination. I could see how free masons only have to believe in a "god". Because if you knew anything about Illumination, then you would understand why that is.
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posted on Feb, 12 2012 @ 12:00 PM
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Originally posted by Slavich
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Meritocracy is one name used.
New World Order, Meritocracy.

It doesn't matter the name. What matters is the message.


So are you friends with a real illuminati? are you one yourself?
And yes, the name matters not, its the message that counts.

when i read this stuff (im only about half way through the articles actually, and have learned so much.). It feels.. right i guess. And yes, the illuminati do not believe in an abrahamic god (christianity, judaism, islam), as a matter of fact, they do not want those religions on earth at all, because these religions have done nothing by create fear and disassociation from god, rather than bring us closer to god.

Divide and conquer. The OWO has been around for a long long time. A long time... History. Its all there.

And its only about 6000 people that have a grasp over our world. 6000 people control over 7 million through various ways (The media and news here, and enslave other countries to debt, and war with other countries to keep them oppressed). Iran is one of only three places left with its own central bank not owned by the elite. It was the SAME WITH LIBYA!. Until the rebels took over and opened one owned by the banking cartel. Coincidence?
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posted on Feb, 12 2012 @ 12:04 PM
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Continue reading and searching within yourself, and I promise you will find the answer to your questions. I like to not give answers because it is a lot more beneficial to yourself if you find them on your own, but I have no problem offering a little guidance!



posted on Feb, 12 2012 @ 12:10 PM
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So where does the individual fit in - Are we to be part of yet another some one elses hypothisis on reality.
We are each soveriegn to our selves and have all the answers we require within. Natural Law.
The Illumanati can keep their so called secrets I need nothing from them and have my own thought and ideas
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posted on Feb, 12 2012 @ 12:11 PM
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Que in disinformation and distractions from the harshness of reality. Dude please go away with your conspiracy mumbo jumbo. You mix truths with lies. It is sad and pathetic.
edit on 12-2-2012 by Slavich because: (no reason given)


I disagree. I think we as a society have been purposely dumbed down.
It is the only way to have complete control.
We can't all be successful and enlightened. Who would feed us? Who slave away at manufacturing?

I say, the Old World Order has not only gained strength over these past hundred years, but that the Old World Order is looking pretty "new" and "fresh" and "powerful"

It seems to me, and could it be, that the New World Order has also become corrupt and now there is no real difference between the Old and the New?

I see no "savior" in sight for mankind as a whole, right now.

All I see are megalithic corporate and government walls forming in every direction, imposing miniscule after miniscule regulation after regulation on everything in it's path. These regulations and laws, (designed because one person got hurt or was offended somewhere...) stack up and form a impenetrable wall that stops all forms of freedom from getting through.

Sorry to offend you so deeply with my off the cuff and flippant response. I was agreeing with all, but trying to go a step further, which is: I think we're screwed.



posted on Feb, 12 2012 @ 12:24 PM
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Originally posted by TimesUp



Que in disinformation and distractions from the harshness of reality. Dude please go away with your conspiracy mumbo jumbo. You mix truths with lies. It is sad and pathetic.
edit on 12-2-2012 by Slavich because: (no reason given)


I disagree. I think we as a society have been purposely dumbed down.
It is the only way to have complete control.
We can't all be successful and enlightened. Who would feed us? Who slave away at manufacturing?

I say, the Old World Order has not only gained strength over these past hundred years, but that the Old World Order is looking pretty "new" and "fresh" and "powerful"

It seems to me, and could it be, that the New World Order has also become corrupt and now there is no real difference between the Old and the New?

I see no "savior" in sight for mankind as a whole, right now.

All I see are megalithic corporate and government walls forming in every direction, imposing miniscule after miniscule regulation after regulation on everything in it's path. These regulations and laws, (designed because one person got hurt or was offended somewhere...) stack up and form a impenetrable wall that stops all forms of freedom from getting through.

Sorry to offend you so deeply with my off the cuff and flippant response. I was agreeing with all, but trying to go a step further, which is: I think we're screwed.


I hope this link gives you some hope my friends. Link
The OWO is not as well off as they seem to be, what you are seeing now is death throes. Not everyone is asleep and unaware of whats going on, there are people in copororate/banks/governments that are ready to take these people down. Its happening now as we speak. The wheels are turning. The world is going to change.

They will try to instill their fear in us, they will try ANYTHING to maintain power. Fight. Thats all i can say. They will try, they will lose. We will be victorious. As human beings we are more than capable of world peace, its not us that is stopping peace from happening. It is the OWO.
They know who the OWO is now,
The link i provided up there for you is a very good link, lots of information all in one place.
, just this article alone will help along the way to freedom from the owo. (by they, i mean people within the web of lies themselves, working on the inside)
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posted on Feb, 12 2012 @ 12:27 PM
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Originally posted by Slavich
reply to post by AzureSky
 


Continue reading and searching within yourself, and I promise you will find the answer to your questions. I like to not give answers because it is a lot more beneficial to yourself if you find them on your own, but I have no problem offering a little guidance!


The more i read the more interested i get.
The more things i read about, the more interesting the synchonicities are.
I have been reading the emerald tablets of thoth, the flower of life series, as well as some books on chakras, as well as "confessions of an economic hitman" and the spirit molecule. SO MUCH INFORMATION.
And it seems to all line up really, Its highly interesting.

What is your advice? where should i continue my search?



posted on Feb, 12 2012 @ 12:32 PM
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Are the 13th richest families in the world part of the Illuminati? Because they most certainly want to usher in a new world order.

So that in itself makes your whole post irrelevant. The 13 richest families in the world want equality, to shatter the barriers between the haves and have-nots... LOL

I don't think so!

PURE DISINFO
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posted on Feb, 12 2012 @ 12:45 PM
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you think illuminati has anything to do with scientology? I dont get how those wealthy wealthy celebrities would not desiree to pay someone to be privy to the highest quality of information and truth,, ,, it has to be some crazy highly advanced science tech club....



posted on Feb, 12 2012 @ 12:59 PM
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Originally posted by TheCelestialHuman
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The Illuminati date all the way back to Pythagoras in about 495 b.c.
I would say that is way before the freemasons


I almost hate to even get involved in a thread using the name Illuminati. So many people are So damn confused about that term, that you can get what you have here. The idea of Illumninism started with the free thinkers like Pythagoras, and much of his work is still studied and appreciated to this day. But the group called the Illuminati was formed by Adam Weishaup on May 1st, 1776. History cannot be adjusted to fit your wants or needs. It has to be revealed through documentation and study. What you have, is a theory.

Just as the Freemasons as we know today, cannot be proven to exist before the early 1700's. There are documents that date back to the 900's, but that is not enough to actually prove anything. But don't let a little thing like FACTS get in the way of your story.



posted on Feb, 12 2012 @ 01:02 PM
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U know what? After i read ur thread, i think im going to support the illuminati.

I was never a fan of the neocons anyway



posted on Feb, 12 2012 @ 01:20 PM
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Originally posted by artistpoet
We are each soveriegn to our selves and have all the answers we require within. Natural Law.
And that was the teaching of the Bavarian Illuminati. Which is why they were shut down by the King.



posted on Feb, 12 2012 @ 01:25 PM
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Originally posted by emptyOmind
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Are the 13th richest families in the world part of the Illuminati? Because they most certainly want to usher in a new world order.

So that in itself makes your whole post irrelevant. The 13 richest families in the world want equality, to shatter the barriers between the haves and have-nots... LOL

I don't think so!

PURE DISINFO
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Once again, you have your terminology mixed up.
The 13 richest families in the world (rothschild, rockefeller, etc),
THEY are the ones that run this planet, yes. But they are not illuminati, no.
There are THE OLD WORLD ORDER, they have been around a long time, and there is nothing new about their plan. That is where the confusion lies.

The OWO has warped the term 'New world order' into something that it is not(via media and propaganda as usual, their best tools for control. Just like the term conspiracy theorist has been warped to mean something BAD, rather than good (question authority)), they do not want a new world order right now, because they have us exactly where they want us. They control almost every aspect of day to day life. You work for a living to pay the elite, essentially. Its slave labour when most of your money is gone before you even see it. But thats a whole rant on its own right now, the media is the core controller of the world right now. Most people are ignorant to what is going on because they use the news for info, the old world orders best tool ever created.

The NWO plan we hear about, you know, depopulation and stuff, that is just the final stage of the OWO plan, The illuminati (the true illuminati), want a New world order, WHICH WE NEED. Because we are still trapped in the OWO plan. And we have not broken free yet. the Illuminati (the true illuminati), want a NWO for peace on earth, for equality among everyone, not just the privileged. Trillions upon trillions of dollars has been stolen from the world, and now the world wants it back.

Here is a good book for you, its called The five men of frankfort: Story of the rothschilds. How they came into power. Its all here: PDF download Its a download of the pdf, its a good read and very informative to the history of the WHY.

This is a good link to some history and to what is really going on as well, i only use it because it has lots of information all in one place instead of linking 100 different books and stuff. Wilcock uses the freemason name and illuminati name interchangably, so its confusing. But lets just leave 'The true illuminati' out of this, and this information is just general good information.

And if you want to talk about THE TRUE ILLUMINATI and their religion, your first starting point is right here, illumination, the nature of god, there are several dozen articles here that are very informative and you all should read Link

In short:
Illuminati Not equal to 13 Richest families.
Old world order = 13 richest families
NWO = Idea warped into something to be feared.
Illuminati are free thinkers, they are the greatest free thinkers of history, they are the greatest free thinkers of our time. If you question the status quo, if you question what 'the leaders' tell you (be it governments or religion), then you are on your way down the path of illumination,
And really, the path to god is a personal one, not one masses of people can attain. (ie: doctine doesn't work, abrahamic religions are being used to instill fear and control of millions, perhaps billions)
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posted on Feb, 12 2012 @ 01:44 PM
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Ha ha - Thanks for that
You do not need to join any secret society to learn of or understand reality.
In fact there is far more to reality than even the Illumanati know



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