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posted on Feb, 13 2012 @ 03:16 AM
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Originally posted by aching_knuckles

Originally posted by beezzer

And to a point, labels, generalisations, categories, will be the death of America.


That sure doesnt stop you from ever using words like "liberal", "socialist/ism","communist/ism", etc, etc etc


If the shoe fits, I'll apply it.




posted on Feb, 13 2012 @ 03:38 AM
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Originally posted by beezzer

Originally posted by aching_knuckles

Originally posted by beezzer

And to a point, labels, generalisations, categories, will be the death of America.


That sure doesnt stop you from ever using words like "liberal", "socialist/ism","communist/ism", etc, etc etc


If the shoe fits, I'll apply it.


the problem is you rely to much on it as a substitute for thought and real debate....



posted on Feb, 13 2012 @ 03:46 AM
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Originally posted by mastahunta

Originally posted by beezzer

Originally posted by aching_knuckles

Originally posted by beezzer

And to a point, labels, generalisations, categories, will be the death of America.


That sure doesnt stop you from ever using words like "liberal", "socialist/ism","communist/ism", etc, etc etc


If the shoe fits, I'll apply it.


the problem is you rely to much on it as a substitute for thought and real debate....


Then pick a topic, I formally challenge you.




posted on Feb, 13 2012 @ 07:39 AM
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eh, Im sure hes taking tons of shelling in "Fire Base Rammstein". Give me a break, not eveyone in the military is some hero that stormed Saddams palace. Sheesh.


Love your name btw, do your knuckles ache because they drag?
Sorry had to ask, just being silly.

Beez and the other Beezers out there are ready and able at a moment's notice to get a job done when necessary.

The closest I could find on Fire Base Rammstein was ..... Amerika


Mickey Mouse.... sometimes war.... wonder bra

I love this song.




posted on Feb, 13 2012 @ 09:38 AM
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Originally posted by The Sword
reply to post by macman
 


And I'd rather my tax dollars not go to wanna-be gung-ho soldiers with the blood of the American Empire on their hands.

To each their own.


Yep
because that is just what ever military member is.
Deny ignorance huh?



posted on Feb, 13 2012 @ 09:50 AM
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Originally posted by User8911


Who actually works?

Excuse me? Are you serious?
From the mouth of someone that has never been in the Military.
I expect nothing but ignorant statements like this from someone who has never served.



Originally posted by User8911
Are you serious here...I mean war isn't working, it's destruction and counter-productive.

Shall I cry now or later?
Oh boo hoo.
War is hell, but it is what it is.


Originally posted by User8911
They make the elite stronger and divide men for the wrong reasons.

Wait, I thought the Military doesn't work. Which is it?




Originally posted by User8911
It's disgusting and joining them isn't a matter of honor at all, it's a matter of making money while being disillusioned that it is for the good.

So says the person who's never severed, and more then likely biggest accomplishment is stating such things on ATS.





Originally posted by User8911
Our corrupted leaders are the main problem but people joining in the wars are also part of the problem.

Yep, kind of like blaming the rape victim, instead of the rapist. Go on, I guess.





Originally posted by User8911
Although welfare isn't a perfect way to spend a life, at least they spend that money back in the system and keep the remaining jobs rolling.

Yeah, here we go. The whole Welfare creates job crap. I guess Paying taxes are Patriotic as well.
I do think that Military members spend the money they EARNED as well.




Originally posted by User8911
I would rather have a gay son then seeing him join the army.

What does that have to do with anything other then a side swiped Military bash comment?
You true colors are now shown.



posted on Feb, 13 2012 @ 09:52 AM
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Originally posted by aching_knuckles

Originally posted by Still

Originally posted by beezzer
reply to post by NoArmsJames
 

I knew that'd bite me

For less than a year I will still be here, earning a paycheck. Then I'll be in the civilian world. Bottom line, I don't take anything I didn't earn.


What a bunch of hypocritical crap!!!!!

My tax dollars put food in your mouth, clothes on your back, and a roof over your head.

And you write all the crap you write here?
How the hell do you even begin to justify any of that?


Exactly, I hate when military people start talking about "socialism" and "providing for yourself". The military is the biggest socialist organization on the planet, it even has free health care for life! All paid for by the non-military dime, whether you agree with it or not!

I guess socialism is OK if it applies to you, but when it applies to everyone else, its traitorous.


Um, no more so then working for any other Govt agency.
It is not Socialist in nature, because the member WORKS a job, as opposed to receiving crap for doing nothing.



posted on Feb, 13 2012 @ 09:54 AM
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No, but as per the design of what the Fed Govt was supposed to do, and what taxes were designed for, the application of tax funds going to Military, Roads, and Schools is what it was designed to do.
Not give food stamps to people, Health Care Crap and every other want under the sun.

BIG difference.



posted on Feb, 13 2012 @ 09:55 AM
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Originally posted by mastahunta
Conservatives don't suck... at lying

Or being self righteous and completely full of crap.



Yep
and Socialist are on the "Up and Up"

Sure sure then.



posted on Feb, 13 2012 @ 12:22 PM
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reply to post by macman
 


Using beezer's logic, if the shoe fits, apply it.

Hey, you signed up for an adventure, you're getting an adventure!



posted on Feb, 13 2012 @ 12:35 PM
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That is nice and all, but I am not beezer.

Your blanket statement is pretty contorted.
Maybe you should go and actually review the humanitarian responses conducted by the US Armed Forces, instead of solely focusing on the ability to delivery one liners and snarky retorts.


Just for you, I will hold my breath.



posted on Feb, 13 2012 @ 12:38 PM
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You think that I'm not aware of the oh-so great nation building that you fine boys have been doing?

If you call yourself nation builders and humanitarians, why do some of your grunts go off and kill innocent people for no reason?



posted on Feb, 13 2012 @ 12:51 PM
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Originally posted by The Sword
reply to post by macman
 


You think that I'm not aware of the oh-so great nation building that you fine boys have been doing?

If you call yourself nation builders and humanitarians, why do some of your grunts go off and kill innocent people for no reason?

Yep, broad sweeping statements of killing the poor child and so on.
Sure sure then.
Deny Ignorance huh?
Back under the bridge with you.....


Come back when you really want to have a conversation.

Not going to hold my breath this time around.



posted on Feb, 13 2012 @ 01:16 PM
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Whoa beezer!

You sure opened a firestorm with this one! Yikes!

The vid you posted was funny. I do not agree with all of it, but I get the sentiment and understand where you are comming from.

Heard Ramstein is colder than a polar bears tootsies lately, hope it warms up and you get out and enjoy the fasching BTW. I always thought it was so cool when the women storm the Rathaus in landstuhl and cut all the men's ties!

But that is beside the point.

I think people should be as self reliant as possible, but i think social welfare is necessary in modern society.

I do not think it should be the governments place to provide this welfare, I think it should be up to us to provide it to our fellow man without government interference.

However, reality is, many people do not want to care for their fellow man out of their own sense of charity, which is why the govt has a security net in place.

I am not a Christian, but one thing I will say is the Christian churches provide a lot of charity in the world, and I have a ton of respect for that. Also humanitarian groups do a lot of good. Sure, it could be argued they pull a bait and switch, and yes, sometimes they do, but overall their efforts are sincere I think.

I am fiscally conservative and socially liberal, I do not pick parties, but see the good in each and the bad, I do agree with everyone posting that there needs to be a middle way, the Tao of politics!

Taking sides is just divide and conquer, and that sux!



posted on Feb, 13 2012 @ 01:16 PM
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Originally posted by The Sword
reply to post by macman
 


Using beezer's logic, if the shoe fits, apply it.

Hey, you signed up for an adventure, you're getting an adventure!

Very few sign up for an "adventure". Very few can do the job, can handle the responsibility, the attention to detail. Everyone has their own reasons why they signed up.

That "shoe" comes in all sizes.



posted on Feb, 13 2012 @ 01:17 PM
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Come back when your arrogant need to be recognized for your military efforts ceases.

I'm not holding my breath either.



posted on Feb, 13 2012 @ 01:20 PM
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Originally posted by Mijamija
Whoa beezer!

You sure opened a firestorm with this one! Yikes!

The vid you posted was funny. I do not agree with all of it, but I get the sentiment and understand where you are comming from.

Heard Ramstein is colder than a polar bears tootsies lately, hope it warms up and you get out and enjoy the fasching BTW. I always thought it was so cool when the women storm the Rathaus in landstuhl and cut all the men's ties!

But that is beside the point.

I think people should be as self reliant as possible, but i think social welfare is necessary in modern society.

I do not think it should be the governments place to provide this welfare, I think it should be up to us to provide it to our fellow man without government interference.

However, reality is, many people do not want to care for their fellow man out of their own sense of charity, which is why the govt has a security net in place.

I am not a Christian, but one thing I will say is the Christian churches provide a lot of charity in the world, and I have a ton of respect for that. Also humanitarian groups do a lot of good. Sure, it could be argued they pull a bait and switch, and yes, sometimes they do, but overall their efforts are sincere I think.

I am fiscally conservative and socially liberal, I do not pick parties, but see the good in each and the bad, I do agree with everyone posting that there needs to be a middle way, the Tao of politics!

Taking sides is just divide and conquer, and that sux!








Fasching is this thursday!

And for the record, Ranstein is nearby but I'm on an Army base, not Air Force.

But we are looking at @ 6 inches of snow (if you can trust the 21st Operational Weather guys.)

As for the rest of your post, some I can agree with, other things not, but will respect your right to think them.



posted on Feb, 13 2012 @ 01:34 PM
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Wow, looks like fasching will be extra fun this year! Wish I was there for it!

And it's cool we disagree, I wouldn't expect you to agree with everything. Being military related myself, I understand everyone's got their own POV, we all come from different backgrounds, walks of life, each bringing unique stuff to the discussion table.

In the military, if you are not tolerant and respectful of people's differences you get flamed,so I am not about to flame you, just say I disagree and why, then if you want to discuss further, cool, if not, then I said my peace, ya know?

As one of my favorite Germans once said, "alles klar commissar!"

And I am sure by now you are used to the military insults, so no need to go there on that one




posted on Feb, 13 2012 @ 01:59 PM
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Originally posted by The Sword
reply to post by macman
 


Come back when your arrogant need to be recognized for your military efforts ceases.

I'm not holding my breath either.


Sorry, but I do not need recognition nor seek YOUR approval for anything in life.
Your parental chip on your shoulder must be weighing you down greatly.



posted on Feb, 13 2012 @ 02:01 PM
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Oh, and make no mistake, I know that I am arrogant.

Has more to do with seeing people like you, and aside from pointing just how wrong you are, could care less about your OPINION.

So.......................................





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