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posted on Feb, 12 2012 @ 02:10 PM
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Originally posted by macman
And every military member pays taxes as well.

I would rather tax money go towards the military member, who actually works, then sucked into the blackhole of SS and welfare crap.


Who actually works? Are you serious here...I mean war isn't working, it's destruction and counter-productive. They make the elite stronger and divide men for the wrong reasons. It's disgusting and joining them isn't a matter of honor at all, it's a matter of making money while being disillusioned that it is for the good.

Our corrupted leaders are the main problem but people joining in the wars are also part of the problem.

Although welfare isn't a perfect way to spend a life, at least they spend that money back in the system and keep the remaining jobs rolling.

I would rather have a gay son then seeing him join the army.




posted on Feb, 12 2012 @ 02:10 PM
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reply to post by The Sword
 


You need a stronger stomach then



posted on Feb, 12 2012 @ 02:21 PM
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Originally posted by The Sword
reply to post by DerepentLEstranger
 


Beezer's not a crackpot.

We just happen to disagree on ideology.

But as someone pointed out, labels shall the be death of this nation.

Why Sword, that has to be the nicest thing you've ever said about me.


And to a point, labels, generalisations, categories, will be the death of America.



posted on Feb, 12 2012 @ 02:52 PM
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Excuse me, but isn't it time we put aside petty squabbling about political issues that are contrived to divide and conquer? We have a real problem here, folks, and it's coming at us from all sides, but mostly from way over our heads, farther than we are supposed to be able to see. I speak of the heal of tyranny that is descending on America (and the world) as you guys spit vile at each other over petty issues that can never be solved in this fashion. There's a time looming straight ahead when we will either live on our knees or die on our feet, right here in America. Personally I'd really rather not see it come down to that.

So please, focus on what's important!!! Learn to read the hidden clues. This is the real test of your spirit and soul. Stop the hating and ponder the best ways to propagate peaceful coexistence. Figure out who the real culprits that keep mankind in turmoil for their own personal gain are, and lets chase them back to the hell from which their ideas and actions spring. It's frickin' time to straighten this stuff out, or die trying. The people that wrote our Constitution were well versed in these bigger issues, and they gave us the tools to fight the forces of tyranny. Let's use them before it's too late.



posted on Feb, 12 2012 @ 03:10 PM
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You think a couple more parties will solve the problem? My guess is those parties will be just as corrupt. The problem is the system itself which breeds corruption, not how many parties there are or who you vote for. There is only one way to vote that really counts, and that is with the dollars you spend. I use that vote by not supporting billion dollar multinational corporations which run any politician you vote for hoping they help you out. Politicians dont control the american government anyway, corporations do.

I dont think i am better than anyone else, I just like to spread the word about issues and problems that should really matter to the citizens of the country. Like endless war for profit, globalism, the central and world banks and mass political corruption. You seem to like to talk about the same partisan talking points and trivial issues that distract the majority of the population away from the real issues i discussed above. Like OWS and how those free thinking hippies do nothing and just complain about everything or how liberals are destroying the country.

All i can do is inform people about these severe problems until there is a major economic collapse and we start over with hopefully a new kind of system minus the "profits at all costs" mentality. It doesnt work and never has. It is why our economy is in the crapper. I dont claim to have the solutions to the problems we face, but i know what doesnt work, and voting for new politicians every 4 years with the hope they will work for and represent us absolutely doesnt work.

I didnt realize that being a free thinking individual free of labels was a bad thing. I thought it was a good thing to look at every side and opinion and make a decision for myself as opposed to doing what some news anchor or politician tells me to do. Maybe i should just take your advice and vote every 4 years for the lesser of 2 evils and pretend that everything will be ok while the country slowly circles the drain.



posted on Feb, 12 2012 @ 03:23 PM
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Originally posted by Still

Originally posted by beezzer
reply to post by NoArmsJames
 

I knew that'd bite me

For less than a year I will still be here, earning a paycheck. Then I'll be in the civilian world. Bottom line, I don't take anything I didn't earn.


What a bunch of hypocritical crap!!!!!

My tax dollars put food in your mouth, clothes on your back, and a roof over your head.

And you write all the crap you write here?
How the hell do you even begin to justify any of that?


Exactly, I hate when military people start talking about "socialism" and "providing for yourself". The military is the biggest socialist organization on the planet, it even has free health care for life! All paid for by the non-military dime, whether you agree with it or not!

I guess socialism is OK if it applies to you, but when it applies to everyone else, its traitorous.



posted on Feb, 12 2012 @ 03:25 PM
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Originally posted by DarkKnight76
reply to post by Still
 


I guess men and women in uniform are only heroes when they agree implicitly with your small-minded ideology?


I guess you would say the same thing to Bradley Manning? Or is he a "traitor"? He did more to fight for freedom than most American soldiers I know, and he rots in jail while murderers roam our streets with honorable discharges.



posted on Feb, 12 2012 @ 03:26 PM
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Originally posted by sweetliberty
reply to post by beezzer
 


Beezer. Thank you for your service and all that you sacrifice (family, self, and the civilian life;fun).

Thank you for having the ballsacarooni to do what you do and keep those rather fluffy bunny ears low and stay safe!

I wish you and your family a smooth transitional move into .... "Hi honey, I'm home!" life
....

edit on 12-2-2012 by sweetliberty because: (no reason given)


Yeh, Im sure hes taking tons of shelling in "Fire Base Rammstein".

Give me a break, not eveyone in the military is some hero that stormed Saddams palace. Sheesh.



posted on Feb, 12 2012 @ 08:20 PM
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Originally posted by DarkKnight76
reply to post by Still
 


I guess men and women in uniform are only heroes when they agree implicitly with your small-minded ideology?


Huh?

What the hell are you talking about?
Who mentioned heroes?
Who said anything about men and women in uniform?
You just hit reply and typed random words and got stars for it.
Interesting.
Hopefully you can clarify.



posted on Feb, 12 2012 @ 08:23 PM
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Originally posted by sweetliberty
reply to post by beezzer
 


Beezer. Thank you for your service and all that you sacrifice (family, self, and the civilian life;fun).

Thank you for having the ballsacarooni to do what you do and keep those rather fluffy bunny ears low and stay safe!

I wish you and your family a smooth transitional move into .... "Hi honey, I'm home!" life
....

edit on 12-2-2012 by sweetliberty because: (no reason given)


What are you thanking him for?
Seriously. Be specific.

I am paying him. Should I thank him for doing things I pay him to do that really do not benefit me and I do not want him to do to begin with all while he sits around online bitching about people that take other people's tax dollars to suck off the government teat?

Do any of you even get irony?



posted on Feb, 12 2012 @ 08:29 PM
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Originally posted by macman
reply to post by Still
 


And every military member pays taxes as well.


and your point is?


I would rather tax money go towards the military member, who actually works, then sucked into the blackhole of SS and welfare crap.


So you are telling me that you think it is ok that people are taxed for reasons they do NOT approve of, as long as you approve of it?
I would rather my tax dollars go to schools and infrastructure. There are more than two choices.

Come back when you can explain any this little rant in the context of your post history about freedom and liberty all while you dictate to me where my tax dollars should go based on your opinion.



posted on Feb, 12 2012 @ 08:41 PM
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Originally posted by beezzer
Er. . . . thank you!


What do you do with my tax dollars?


Um...what tax dollars of yours do I receive and what form do they come in?
I do not have a government job like you.



posted on Feb, 12 2012 @ 08:43 PM
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Originally posted by beezzer

Originally posted by Still

Originally posted by beezzer
reply to post by NoArmsJames
 

I knew that'd bite me

For less than a year I will still be here, earning a paycheck. Then I'll be in the civilian world. Bottom line, I don't take anything I didn't earn.


What a bunch of hypocritical crap!!!!!

My tax dollars put food in your mouth, clothes on your back, and a roof over your head.

And you write all the crap you write here?
How the hell do you even begin to justify any of that?


Er. . . . thank you!


What do you do with my tax dollars?


The question was "how do you justify that?"
I cannot help but notice there is not even a remote attempt to answer.
Funny how I can justify every viewpoint I express. It must be because I actually believe the things I say or at least understand them.

Anyway. How do you justify that crap?



posted on Feb, 12 2012 @ 08:54 PM
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I won't report you to the moderators. I will simply say that I've never seen a defense or advocacy of conservatism, which doesn't involve attacking the opposition.

To be honest, I hardly even know what being conservative means. The conservatives themselves won't tell me. They're too busy calling other people names.



posted on Feb, 12 2012 @ 09:06 PM
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Originally posted by beezzer

And to a point, labels, generalisations, categories, will be the death of America.


That sure doesnt stop you from ever using words like "liberal", "socialist/ism","communist/ism", etc, etc etc



posted on Feb, 12 2012 @ 11:21 PM
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I've always been a fan of bipartisan cooperation but not the kind that this sham of a government partakes in.

Maybe when we all shed the following labels, we can begin to re-build the foundation that unites us all as Americans:

- Liberal
- Conservative
- Tea Bagger
- Obamabot
- Paulbot
- Paultard
- Obama Kisser
- MUSLIM!
- Hippie
- Nancy Pelosi
- Liberal
- Tea Bagger

Etc, etc. You know what I mean.



posted on Feb, 12 2012 @ 11:25 PM
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Well based on how bad the VA hospitals are, they don't have that much of an advantage over civilians.

But yeah. It's too bad that the U.S economy depended heavily on unneeded wars (Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, Iraq Pt.2, Afghanistan) instead of promoting peace through industry.

The military would be # if it weren't for the tax dollars of the people.



posted on Feb, 13 2012 @ 03:00 AM
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reply to post by Still
 


Show me your's and I'll show you mine.
(that you pay income taxes)
For all I know you could be a really cool enlightened spread the wealth 10th grader.
What do you do for a living/career?
Btw, If you THINK you own the Beezers out there, you have a hard lesson to learn!

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posted on Feb, 13 2012 @ 03:09 AM
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Conservatives don't suck... at lying

Or being self righteous and completely full of crap.



posted on Feb, 13 2012 @ 03:15 AM
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Originally posted by aching_knuckles

Originally posted by sweetliberty
reply to post by beezzer
 


Beezer. Thank you for your service and all that you sacrifice (family, self, and the civilian life;fun).

Thank you for having the ballsacarooni to do what you do and keep those rather fluffy bunny ears low and stay safe!

I wish you and your family a smooth transitional move into .... "Hi honey, I'm home!" life
....

edit on 12-2-2012 by sweetliberty because: (no reason given)


Yeh, Im sure hes taking tons of shelling in "Fire Base Rammstein".

Give me a break, not eveyone in the military is some hero that stormed Saddams palace. Sheesh.


Never said I had.





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