Why conservatives . . . . . suck!

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posted on Feb, 12 2012 @ 04:54 AM
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They both suck ......... can we move on?

Honestly both parties SUCK, I'd like to move on to a time when we didn't have to choose one over the other, it's pretty much ... seeping into the same these days!!!

We need a third party, a party for the people, a party who will choose the best choices for the PEOPLE ........ we are America, The United States Of America........ are we not?

I don't know who that person could/would be but I'm sure they are out there and have been speaking for the voice of the American people for years, only to be back-washed or whatever you'd like to call it. I think the American people have been outspoken for a while now, and some have chosen to LISTEN to them .........

I am not young or naive but I do think this person is out there ....... waiting for our vote!!




posted on Feb, 12 2012 @ 05:32 AM
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Originally posted by beezzer
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Germans for the most part are quite happy with their government. Plenty have issues with Merkel, but it's a different approach over here. I wouldn't dare to presume that they change their government just to suit a lowly American.

I didn't mean to imply that Americans are "lowly".

I was just asking what US conservatives make of German conservatives, since I've read before that many conservative Americans see us as Communists (which we are not of course) although we share the crucial characteristics of conservatives.



posted on Feb, 12 2012 @ 05:42 AM
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Originally posted by Still

Originally posted by beezzer
reply to post by NoArmsJames
 

I knew that'd bite me

For less than a year I will still be here, earning a paycheck. Then I'll be in the civilian world. Bottom line, I don't take anything I didn't earn.


What a bunch of hypocritical crap!!!!!

My tax dollars put food in your mouth, clothes on your back, and a roof over your head.

And you write all the crap you write here?
How the hell do you even begin to justify any of that?


Constant war is one of the reasons America is doing so bad. Anyone and anything having to do with the army and wars are counter productive to human evolution IMO. Hardly more useful than someone on wealth fare...at least people on wealth fare spend it inside the country.



posted on Feb, 12 2012 @ 06:28 AM
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I guess men and women in uniform are only heroes when they agree implicitly with your small-minded ideology?



posted on Feb, 12 2012 @ 06:37 AM
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Originally posted by Cosmic911

Republicans keep money in the hands of the few, while Democrats give it away relentlessly in entitlement programs and welfare services.

They BOTH Suck!


I agree they both suck but the idea that they do different things with the money is a carefully crafted illusion. There is not a dimes worth of difference between the two except in rhetoric. It is a dog and pony show to keep the sheeple divided and distracted and has worked like a charm!



posted on Feb, 12 2012 @ 06:54 AM
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Beezer. Thank you for your service and all that you sacrifice (family, self, and the civilian life;fun).

Thank you for having the ballsacarooni to do what you do and keep those rather fluffy bunny ears low and stay safe!

I wish you and your family a smooth transitional move into .... "Hi honey, I'm home!" life
....

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posted on Feb, 12 2012 @ 07:09 AM
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There is a difference between CONSERVATIVES and REPUBLICANS.

Please, learn it and come back.



posted on Feb, 12 2012 @ 07:11 AM
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reply to post by DerepentLEstranger
 


Please provide proof, otherwise it is purely opinion.



posted on Feb, 12 2012 @ 07:15 AM
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And every military member pays taxes as well.

I would rather tax money go towards the military member, who actually works, then sucked into the blackhole of SS and welfare crap.



posted on Feb, 12 2012 @ 07:20 AM
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reply to post by Asktheanimals
 


Hit the nail square on the head.

Our politicians do not vote for the good of the people they represents.



posted on Feb, 12 2012 @ 08:22 AM
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No need...I have little use for either. Thanks anyways.



posted on Feb, 12 2012 @ 08:53 AM
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I was right there with him, up until the point where he started justifying wars of occupation for resource acquisition as "Moral" wars.

Other than that... Not too bad.




posted on Feb, 12 2012 @ 09:01 AM
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There's conservatives and liberals, which I like and will get along with and even see their point of view. Then there's the full-of-it conservatives and liberals who I want to slap across the face with duct tape. These are the kinds that rub their beliefs in your face even when you're just trying to eat your sandwich in the park. You know, Westboro Baptist Church and PETA. It's great to have beliefs, but I don't want you screaming in my face how I can't do anything because I'm a girl and how I don't deserve rights. But I also don't need a crazy protesting feminist yelling at me to get up be a firefighter.

I am an independent simply because I can see why everyone stands where they do, even if I disagree with them. So I don't have to vote based on whether or not someone is a Republican or Democrat but rather they are qualified or meet my expectations of someone who can help us.

I want the government to get out of my backyard but I also want them to clean up their mess. But I know not everyone feels that way, and I'm perfectly okay with that, even if I get angry over topics like abortion. And I will admit to getting crazy. But I'm human and I have opinions that I want you to respect the same way I respect yours, as much as I may disagree.
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posted on Feb, 12 2012 @ 09:20 AM
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I agree. Conservatives do suck. So do liberals, progressives and every other political label that is given and people blindly subscribe to. Being a drone to this political divide and conquer tactic majorly sucks.

That is why this country is going down. Its not because of one party or the other, its because we cant get past partisan politics long enough to fix any real problems and it will never change unless you open your mind to ideas which are different from your own. There are ideas that people will never agree on, but everyone can agree that politicians dont have any american citizens best interests in mind, no matter what political party they belong to.

I know its difficult to accept that your party isnt the solution to all the countrys problems even though you truly believe so. Its hard to understand that the majority of what you have learned in school and on the news is complete garbage, but it is the reality of the world today. Change that will actually help the citizens who are supposed to be running the country will never come if we continue to support this "two party democratic system" when in fact it is really a fascist oligarchy putting on an impressive show to entertain the masses.

Dont play their game. Dont fall for it.



posted on Feb, 12 2012 @ 09:57 AM
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I agree with some of this video but its not really black and white.

Take the McDonald's example. While it is the parent's responsibility to safeguard their children, to see that they eat healthy, learn the difference between right and wrong etc., there is something to be said for peacetime propaganda, something Edward Bernays talked about.

We, adults and children, are inundated with advertising to such an extent that it borderlines on brainwashing. Its done in such a way as to affect us on an emotional level.

Furthermore, the food itself is different, packed with growth hormones, antibiotics, genetically modified ingredients and other chemicals. Of-course it could be argued that this too is something that we should take responsibility for but the point being that these issues are not as simple as they're portrayed to be.

The war example is just laughable.

There is nothing "conservative" about installing dictators, supporting oppressive regimes and overthrowing democracies while pretending to be "outraged" by their human rights abuses. All the while going into debt to fund these immoral activities.

We're not seriously going to sit here and act like the war on terror is real, are we? That its not about natural resources and strategic control?


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posted on Feb, 12 2012 @ 11:34 AM
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Originally posted by Still

Originally posted by beezzer
reply to post by NoArmsJames
 

I knew that'd bite me

For less than a year I will still be here, earning a paycheck. Then I'll be in the civilian world. Bottom line, I don't take anything I didn't earn.


What a bunch of hypocritical crap!!!!!

My tax dollars put food in your mouth, clothes on your back, and a roof over your head.

And you write all the crap you write here?
How the hell do you even begin to justify any of that?


Er. . . . thank you!


What do you do with my tax dollars?



posted on Feb, 12 2012 @ 11:40 AM
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I agree. Conservatives do suck. So do liberals, progressives and every other political label that is given and people blindly subscribe to. Being a drone to this political divide and conquer tactic majorly sucks. That is why this country is going down. Its not because of one party or the other, its because we cant get past partisan politics long enough to fix any real problems and it will never change unless you open your mind to ideas which are different from your own. There are ideas that people will never agree on, but everyone can agree that politicians dont have any american citizens best interests in mind, no matter what political party they belong to.


The biggest drones of all are the pseudo intellectuals who think they are somehow above it all. They sit around talking smack about others and patting each other on the back but they have absolutely no plan….OWS is a great example.


I know its difficult to accept that your party isnt the solution to all the countrys problems even though you truly believe so. Its hard to understand that the majority of what you have learned in school and on the news is complete garbage, but it is the reality of the world today. Change that will actually help the citizens who are supposed to be running the country will never come if we continue to support this "two party democratic system" when in fact it is really a fascist oligarchy putting on an impressive show to entertain the masses.


You are correct that the two-party system is a bad thing. If we had multiple parties then maybe some of you FREE-THINKERS could find a suitable party to get behind rather than just mocking the rest of us!


Dont play their game. Dont fall for it.


Really, and what do you propose we all do? Should we sit it out because we don’t subscribe to the current parties?

And what are you doing to bring about a third, fourth, fifth party? I will guess….nothing!
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posted on Feb, 12 2012 @ 01:48 PM
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reply to post by Asktheanimals
 


I like your line of thinking.

Why don't we just have a COMMON SENSE Party?



posted on Feb, 12 2012 @ 01:53 PM
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Beezer's not a crackpot.

We just happen to disagree on ideology.

But as someone pointed out, labels shall the be death of this nation.



posted on Feb, 12 2012 @ 01:57 PM
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And I'd rather my tax dollars not go to wanna-be gung-ho soldiers with the blood of the American Empire on their hands.

To each their own.





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