Hamas Moves Headquarters to Qatar, page 1

First Publish: 2/11/2012, 9:28 PM -- Arutz Sheva, Israel

In direct contradiction to a statement earlier this month, Hamas politburo chief Khaled Mashaal is quietly moving his headquarters to Qatar.

According to the LIGNET intelligence website, Mashaal announced Friday he will “temporarily” be carrying out Hamas activities from Qatar. However, “Hamas is keeping its Damascus offices open.”

Mashaal made the announcement after the terrorist organization closed a Palestinian Authority unity government deal with the rival Fatah faction.

Hmmm.

Now why would they do THAT and still keep their Damascus offices open ?

"Mashaal likely wants to take advantage of Qatar's growing influence in the region and its reputation as a reliable negotiator and a friend of the Palestinian cause,” commented the Langley Intelligence Group in a statement posted Friday on the LIGNET website.

While Mashaal is setting up shop in Qatar, however, his rival in upcoming Hamas elections arrived Friday on an official visit to Tehran.

Gaza's de facto Hamas Prime Minister, Ismail Haniyeh, delivered a fiery address to some 30,000 supporters on Saturday to commemorate the 1979 Islamic Revolution in Iran, vowing Hamas “will never recognize Israel.”

In direct contradiction to a statement earlier this month, Hamas politburo chief Khaled Mashaal is quietly moving his headquarters to Qatar.


Notice the double emphasis in the article...."direct contradiction to a statement "

So he lied or did he exaggerate.

Shakespeare said, "You doth protest too much!" meaning if you have to refute something over and over again and defend yourself vigorously, then you're probably guilty of whatever it is you're protesting.

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I heard that some within Hamas were wanting to break with Iran and follow the example of the Muslim Brotherhood instead.

Here's more on a link inside your article:

The report cited sources in Gaza who said Haniyeh is pushing for a split within Hamas due to his disagreement with the organization’s politburo chief Khaled Mashaal on the way the terror group should conduct itself.

Recent reports indicated that a new camp within Hamas is interested in ending the terror group’s relationship with Iran.

www.israelnationalnews.com...-l

The report cited an interview a-Zahar gave to a television station affiliated with the Islamic Jihad, in which he said that no Arab regime can see the changes in the Arab world and ignore them. A-Zahar warned that it would not be wise for the Arab regimes to wait until struggles break out in their own countries.

Kol Yisrael cited one report in the Arab press which said that Abu Marzouk told one of his associates in Jordan that Hamas cannot abandon Iran without finding an alternative among the other Arab countries. The report said that some Hamas officials have also objected to the upcoming visit to Tehran by the group’s Prime Minister, Ismail Haniyeh.

Meanwhile, Hamas and Jordan seem to have gotten closer recently. Earlier this week, Mashaal met with Jordan’s King Abdullah II in Amman, in his first visit to Jordan since being expelled from it in 1999.

www.israelnationalnews.com...-k

Do you think sanctions are hurting Iran's support of Hamas and they're looking for a new sponsor?

Maybe even believe that Iran is getting ready to end up like Syria and trying to get out before the SHTF and no other country will be willing to support them and their cause?

reply to post by Deetermined

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Do you think sanctions are hurting Iran's support of Hamas and they're looking for a new sponsor?

Maybe even believe that Iran is getting ready to end up like Syria and trying to get out before the SHTF and no other country will be willing to support them and their cause?

Good analysis.

Very possible.

Sanctions could be strangling the cash flow.

Here's another article regarding Khaled Meshaal's double talk. What are his motives?

Hamas is clearly undergoing a "reorientation" as a result of geopolitical changes in the region, said Shlomo Brom, director of the program on Israeli-Palestinian relations at the Institute for National Security Studies at Tel Aviv University. "Hamas is moving away from Syria and Iran, and to a certain degree from Hezbollah, and is repositioning itself in line with the popular movements behind the Arab Spring and the democratization process, particularly in Egypt and Tunisia," Brom said. "A renewed push for reconciliation with Fatah should be seen as part of this reorientation."

It’s too early to say whether Hamas is undergoing a real change in its positions. At the end of December, during a meeting in Cairo with Fatah and Islamic Jihad, which is also considered a terrorist group, Meshaal declared his willingness to adopt a strategy of popular resistance used in the Arab Spring, as opposed to terrorism. Meshaal also expressed openness to a Palestinian state in the West Bank and Gaza Strip along the pre-Six-Day War lines with eastern Jerusalem as its capital.

www.jta.org...

I have a funny feeling about all of this. I'm not buying it.

I think Hamas is trying to shadow the Muslim Brotherhood for now in order to gain support.

Hamas already made a bunch of promises (lies) to the Palestinians in Gaza in order to get elected, only to use them as stooges in their cause and break those promises.

I think we're getting ready to see a repeat and I think the Muslim Brotherhood is going to do the same.

Gain support, get elected, and then turn and do an about face to become the next tyrannical rulers in the region committing jihad on anyone who gets in their way.

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Gain support, get elected, and then turn and do an about face to become the next tyrannical rulers in the region committing jihad on anyone who gets in their way.

"They" have been doing that for thousands of years and when i say "they" i mean the arabic community, particularly those that deal with islam. This whole push for "democracy" in the arabic world is a front to allow the muslim brotherhood to regain control of the region and recreate the Ottoman Empire which TMB has been fighting hard for since 1924. Certain circles believe the Ottoman Empire was the Beast. Which means this is ultimately leading back to....Turkey.

I have a feeling that once the arabic regions of the middle east get taken by the Muslim Brotherhood, Turkey is going to give the E.U. the finger and become the head of the Ottoman Empire again. Iran is the final piece to the puzzle. Its going to be a bad time to be a christian in Iran when the muslim brotherhood gets total control of the region. Ultimately this is going to be bad joojoo for Israel. Arabs do not forget nor do they forgive the black eye they recieved at the hands of Israel in 1967. The muslim brotherhood is bad news for that whole region. Ghaddafi, Mubarak and Assad were actually keeping them on a tight leash. Once Assad goes down (and he will) then the muslim brotherhood's eyes are going to turn towards Iran and they've probably been eyeballing the Iranians for a while now.

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That would be ironic considering Hamas is an off-shoot of the Brotherhood, which disagreed in the manner in which the Brotherhood conducted itself.

reply to post by lonewolf19792000

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That is a seemingly stupid post if you come back to earth a consider reality for a second.

This whole push for "democracy" in the arabic world is a front to allow the muslim brotherhood to regain control of the region and recreate the Ottoman Empire which TMB has been fighting hard for since 1924.

Firstly the push for "democracy" may be manipulated by Islamist constituencies to ride the wave to power, but this in no way suggests that it is a vehicle of their creation. Quite otherwise, in fact the youth which originally pushed for democritisation in Egypt, started in the middle-upper class who tend to be liberal and well educated, where as the Islamist support base is the poor (especially the rural class) who benefits from their social programs.

Secondly the Islamic Brotherhood cannot aim to "regan" control of the region considering they never had control. Unless you are refering to the Jihadist ideology of re-establishing an Islamic Caliphate.

I have a feeling that once the arabic regions of the middle east get taken by the Muslim Brotherhood, Turkey is going to give the E.U. the finger and become the head of the Ottoman Empire again

Right.... You simply ignore all the geo-political considerations an assume that Turkey, a regional power, rivaled with Iran, Israel and Russia, will reassume the role of the Caliphate and re-establish the Ottomon empire, in this post-Imperialist nationalist era, where nations and states value sovereignty as their primary form of organisation in the global community?

Once Assad goes down (and he will) then the muslim brotherhood's eyes are going to turn towards Iran and they've probably been eyeballing the Iranians for a while now.

The Muslim Brotherhood is a Sunni-Salafist ideological entity. Iran is predominantly Shi'ite. The Brotherhood has only been able to take root in Sunni countries and areas such as Egypt, Palestine, Syria and Jordan where the population is mostly Sunni. The Shi'te and Sunni-Salafist doctrines are opposing, therefore the Brotherhood cannot thrive in Iran. It won't become the predomiinant political entity if democritisation were to succesfully occur in Lebanon (due to it's Shi'te, Druze, Alawite and Christian population) and Iraq (due to its Shi'ite majority).

As such the Brotherhood cannot gain control of the entire Muslim world. Secondly, there are alot of rival factions both amongst the Islamists and the Brotherhood that would rival its participation in any country. The Wahabi's in Saudi Arabia, while they may have similiar ideology are not going to give up control to the Brotherhood. The Brotherhood itself isn't some sort of united political organisation across the scope of the Muslim world. It originated in 1923 in Egypt, but since then has spread, created seperate "Brotherhoods" in Syria an so forth. It is not some united organisation, although it may co-ordinate and communicate amongst eachother.

Originally posted by SpeachM1litant
reply to post by Deetermined

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That would be ironic considering Hamas is an off-shoot of the Brotherhood, which disagreed in the manner in which the Brotherhood conducted itself.

Can you give us some insight on how Hamas disagrees with the manner in which the Brotherhood conducts itself?

Sounds like the same thing is going on inside Hamas in order to split them in half as well.

I think Hamas sees all these regional leaders willing to meet with the Heads of the Brotherhood and they want the same kind of respect and power.

It looks like Hamas is already fighting with each other over appointing Abbas as the head of the Palestinian interim government until the next election. Forget about uniting Hamas and Fatah. Now Hamas can't even unite with each other.

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"Supreme Guide" of Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood reiterates that caliphate is its goal" (January 3, 2012)

www.jihadwatch.org...


"Turkey wants to revive Ottoman Empire"

english.pravda.ru...

Originally posted by Deetermined
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"Supreme Guide" of Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood reiterates that caliphate is its goal" (January 3, 2012)

www.jihadwatch.org...


"Turkey wants to revive Ottoman Empire"

english.pravda.ru...

edit on 12-2-2012 by Deetermined because: (no reason given)

Pope=Vicar of Christ=Antichrist=The Beast (Holy Roman Empire)
Caliphate=Vicar of Allah=Antichrist=Image of the Beast (Ottoman Empire)

In Revelation, 2 Antichrist's make war on eachother, and only 1 is left standing and he's the one that squats in the rebuilt Temple of Solomon and says "I am God", this is what we call the Gog and Magog war.

Islam likes to claim it destroyed the Holy Roman Empire but this is actually false. The Holy Roman Empire transformed into the R.C.C. and the Pope still retains all the titles of....Caesar (Emperor of Rome).

Muslims are mighty proud of that "prayer bump" they develop from all that prostration on their prayer mats. Lets see what wikipedia has to say on that matter:

A prayer bump or prayer scar, also known as a zabiba/zebiba/zebibah ("raisin" in Arabic), is a mark on the forehead of a Muslim, apparently due to the friction generated from the contact of the forehead with the prayer mat.

Mmmm, where else do we read about marks on foreheads? You should know the answer to this Deetermined.

On Daniel's statue i think the 2 legs or "islands" are the Holy Roman Empire and the Byzantine Empire's. One was destroyed, but the other one survived if barely. This is my take on it anyway.

The muslim brotherhood is bad news for everyone, they just don't know it yet. All this stuff going down in Iran right now is probably being instigated by them in order to unite Islam to recreate...the Ottoman Empire that the muslim brotherhood has been desperately trying to resurrect since 1924.

reply to post by Deetermined

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Pretty simple. Hamas is a far more militant off-shoot of the Brotherhood. The Brotherhood or Ikhwan in Arabic, favours patience and assuming power in a peacefull manner. It opposes the utilization of violence and would rather use democratic systems. It's official statements also state they oppose forcing Islam onto people, while recognizing it is "the way". It's official statements also seem to favour democracy. However, we can never be sure what policy would be like under the Brotherhood untill they assume power.

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Wouldn't the Brotherhood, featuring a Salafist identity prefer to follow the teachings of Ibn Taymiyyah's literalist ideology, rather than re-create the Ottomon Empire? In other words, resort to the customs of the early Muslim Umma which began by expanding from the Arabian peninsuala? Given that the Brotherhood is also Arab not Turkish in ethnicity it would seem more logical to me. However, this is purely hypothetical considering the geo-political considerations that would make the return to some Muslim empire impossible in at least the next 200 years.

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