Originally posted by PsykoOps
Also before I go level up my klingon in STonline I have to mention a tidbit trivia. Roddenberrys idea originally was that the starfleet would fall. There was to be a war and one ship was supposed to survive it by accident. It drifts too close to a black hole and ends up in suspended time untill retrieved in the future. Starfleet doesn't excist anymore and technology has gone back alot so it's the most powerfull ship around. This idea then was taken and made into a new universe which became andromeda. Now we have the new ST's which are bullocks. I mean seriously beam onto a ship that has been on warp for 3-4 hours???
Originally posted by Ixtab
reply to post by beezzer
I would gladly give up my nationalism for a utopian one world future were we all co operate equally in a true unified democracy. Other than being brainwashed by tradition, nationalism doesnt actualy do anything does it?
I cant remember the last time nationalism did anything for me, I cant see it, I certainly cant use it and im generaly confused as to how it really applies to my life on a daily basis other than whipping up support from the masses for some good old gun boat diplomacy over seas when the natives are acting up.
Just like religion it is simply some backward egocentric ideology that does nothing but hold us back and should be forgotten as quickly as possible.
originally posted by beezzer
The only way I could see it happening would be with a nuclear war to eliminate any government structure, world-wide. And even then, it'd depend on the victors. I'm actually looking for the one episode whre they came across a civilization wth the American flag. Still searching. ETA, The Omega Glory
I don't see any population of people willingly giving up their nationalism except in the case of a benign dictaorship. Then it'll be too late.
Actually, the episode "Journey to Babel" makes Rodenberry's vision of a one world government clear.
Originally posted by Cosmic911
Firstly, love Star Trek...love everything about it...S&F!
Second, anyone believing we live in a free democracy think twice...its all a fallacy...
Maybe one shouldn't read too much into this, but on the original series, the Enterprise and other "good guy" ships always entered from the left. "Bad guy" ships usually entered from the right.