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posted on Feb, 12 2012 @ 02:10 AM
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reply to post by conlget
 


maybe Iran would like to keep it secret.




posted on Feb, 12 2012 @ 03:29 AM
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Thats interesting Old Corp it kinda reminds me of this. Looks like the Jews want to hasten the coming of their whoever too.


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posted on Feb, 12 2012 @ 05:05 AM
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TEHRAN, Iran (AP) — Iran will soon unveil "big new" nuclear achievements saying the west will all suffer at their feet, President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said Saturday while reiterating Tehran's readiness ether to attack our enemys or to revive talks with the West over the country's controversial nuclear program.
"Within the next few days the world will witness the inauguration of several big new achievements in the nuclear field," Ahmadinejad told the crowd in Tehran's famous Azadi, or Freedom, square.
Before Ahmadinejad spoke Saturday, visiting Hamas prime minister from Gaza, Ismail Haniyeh, also addressed the crowd, congratulating Iranians on the 1979 anniversary and vowing that his militant Palestinian group would one day destroy the non-belevers adding they will have war in there heart and would never recognize Iran's and Hamas' archenemy, Israel.



posted on Feb, 12 2012 @ 06:08 AM
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all those government leaders you've mentioned are in western puppet governments tho.



posted on Feb, 12 2012 @ 07:02 AM
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Um...okay. Sometimes people actually AGREE with you and mention things on their own beyond that...extrapolate on your thought and add some additional on their own.

Yes, I mentioned Israel. You can't discuss this issues and not..They're a player and clearly a spark in the powder keg. No beef here...just observation.

Never brought up China as NAM. IMO they're faux NAM and setting up for hegemony but not willing to show that hand yet. I also agree that many leaders there speak out of both sides of their mouths (if that was how you phrased it). This one of the main cruxes of the issue and my main points. They won't take a stand. Want it both ways.And again, the leaders don't always speak for the people. No great shock there or in most countries.

I really only had one actual question to you...about clarifying your Wikileaks statements, but that seems to have gotten lost in the shuffle.

Iran doesn't want war. Iran is being cornered for, again, their prime bit of real estate that's direct in the path of someone's plan. Simple.



posted on Feb, 12 2012 @ 07:39 AM
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Is Iran a war hungry country trying to push for a war, we know they have something but why are they trying to hide it. even if it their project is really to help themself why do they insist to tease the world, What do you think will happen if a man wills a gun and saying death to everyone then when someone kills him for the safety of others the family of the gunman will say why do we bully them.


delluded people is what war-mongers need.

I just like this part :



we know they have something but why are they trying to hide it


The illusion is so deep.

Maybe reading too much UFO conspiracies.


hmdphantom : ignorance is the best way to sleep well at night.

I don't know how you feel when you know that soldiers killing and raping people for nothing.

Or

when you hear your govt has killed millions of people by two bombs.

Or

When you hear your govt used illegal chemicals (such as agent orange) to kill and make people suffer for centuries.

So , ignorance is the best way to sleep well at night.



posted on Feb, 12 2012 @ 07:43 AM
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Originally posted by beezzer

Originally posted by conlget
so what is the truth, so when the people of Iran is going in raleys saying death to america they don't mean it, it is there leader saying it?


They are only doing what they are told. News is heavily censored there so they could be telling them (the people) that the west is eating tiny kittens with ketchup and there'd be no reason not to believe them.


you are living the lies your MSM tells you.

Just sitting behind the computer and accepting what propaganda you like.

keep on the easy way.



posted on Feb, 12 2012 @ 10:19 AM
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Originally posted by hmdphantom

Originally posted by beezzer

Originally posted by conlget
so what is the truth, so when the people of Iran is going in raleys saying death to america they don't mean it, it is there leader saying it?


They are only doing what they are told. News is heavily censored there so they could be telling them (the people) that the west is eating tiny kittens with ketchup and there'd be no reason not to believe them.


you are living the lies your MSM tells you.

Just sitting behind the computer and accepting what propaganda you like.

keep on the easy way.


I see you are a detail person you pick up on the small things, and I like it. Yes I agree, sometimes you have peel to find the truth and so tell me what is the truth? Tell me something I don’t already know, or is this a topic that needs to stay in the spot light? Now how else are we to find an answer unless we first look under some rocks, (rocks meaning how people feel about it, just so you don’t jump somewhere else) so now you have my attention.



posted on Feb, 12 2012 @ 10:52 AM
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Originally posted by Tw0Sides

Originally posted by FlyersFan
President Mahmoud Ahmedinajad wants WWIII to blow out so his imaginary 12th Imam can come floating in (with Jesus as his side kick) and turn the world Muslim.

Using this as a reason makes as much sense as saying, that Reggie wants to fight Archie because he dated Veronica.
This 12Iman stuff is almost , Almost as lame as They Hate Us For Our Freedoms.

Takes a weak mind to believe either.


Absolutely, while I realize this is one of the talking points that is supposed to be used over and over and over just like the "Iraq has WMDs and are going to attack America any second" lie that the war criminal Dick used, who in the world is childish enough in their thinking to fall for such nonsense.

One really has to go back to PNAC documents and papers like "Rebuilding America's Defenses" to understand the bigger game plan of making ALL the dominoes fall in that area. Of course when an Empire seeks to overrun an area, there has to be appropriate propaganda and smokescreens used to keep the people hungry for blood and accepting the return of body bags, just telling folks the truth will never do.
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posted on Feb, 12 2012 @ 01:35 PM
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Originally posted by conlget

Originally posted by hmdphantom

Originally posted by beezzer

Originally posted by conlget
so what is the truth, so when the people of Iran is going in raleys saying death to america they don't mean it, it is there leader saying it?


They are only doing what they are told. News is heavily censored there so they could be telling them (the people) that the west is eating tiny kittens with ketchup and there'd be no reason not to believe them.


you are living the lies your MSM tells you.

Just sitting behind the computer and accepting what propaganda you like.

keep on the easy way.


I see you are a detail person you pick up on the small things, and I like it. Yes I agree, sometimes you have peel to find the truth and so tell me what is the truth? Tell me something I don’t already know, or is this a topic that needs to stay in the spot light? Now how else are we to find an answer unless we first look under some rocks, (rocks meaning how people feel about it, just so you don’t jump somewhere else) so now you have my attention.


Very interesting to see some one who wants to dig the truth.

Some times you have what you want , but the way you look at it is wrong. So , maybe I don't bring some thing new to you , but I will try to explain what I think.

People are like children , they just want toys and hobbies. They don't like analyzing , they just want some analyzing pills to help them understand fast.

That is why they refer to TV. TV tells the story that people can jump to conclusion after few minutes.

That was when BBC Persian and VOA Persian came into the play. George Soros and Facebook came into the play and helped big anarchy in Iran.

To read more about soros and his plans :

www.abovetopsecret.com...

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Truth is that some people have decided to come here (middle east) take the resources and our lands then they want us to shut up.

The truth is that people who don't pay the money they get from selling energy world wide are not getting US people any share anymore.

So , US is under much debt as American people are not playing the role as good slaves.

Economy based on banking and gambling (Stock Exchange) is doomed to fail. No production , no money is just a disease.

Encouraging people for consuming more is just another reason for failure.

So , US is falling down and now, to help it stand again it needs another war so the military complex could work again . So production for killing people will be the road to salvation for America. Just like the crusade.
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posted on Feb, 12 2012 @ 01:37 PM
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I think that Iran acts like a child telling his mom "look at me,watch what I can do". They have their president say things that are inflammatory and threatening to their neighbors. They cry and whine about how they are treated by the world ,but they continue to meddle in the affairs of their neighbors. They make threats that it is questionable they could or would carry out.

As for Pakistan, I agree with slayer. They say one thing then do the opposite. Even China is having problems with them. There was a thread about their double dealings with the Chinese not to long ago. I have a hard time feeling sorry for liars they get what they deserve.



posted on Feb, 12 2012 @ 01:46 PM
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Originally posted by OldCorp

Originally posted by conlget
Is Iran a war hungry country trying to push for a war, we know they have something but why are they trying to hide it. even if it their project is really to help themself why do they insist to tease the world, What do you think will happen if a man wills a gun and saying death to everyone then when someone kills him for the safety of others the family of the gunman will say why do we bully them.


This is their government's motivation.

That's from Iranian State-run TV. It's pretty clear that they want to instigate enough bloodshed to speed up the return of the Mahdi so that Islam will rule the world. Iranian President Ahmadinejad and Supreme Leader Kahmeini are both "Twelvers" as are the majority of the Iranian religious leaders. Iran is a theocracy, and they are fulfilling the role they see themselves playing in their End Time eschatology.


I suggest you use silence instead of saying what you don't know anything about.

Talking about what you don't know about will not make you informed.

12th Imam will not some after bloodshed and that is not what we believe.

Or he should have came after the bloodshed in Iran-Iraq war.



posted on Feb, 12 2012 @ 02:13 PM
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So are you posting from Iran? Are you Iranian?

Your quote:

"Truth is that some people have decided to come here (middle east) take the resources and our lands then they want us to shut up."

Sounds to me alot like what Native America went though.

You are being assimilated by The Borg.



posted on Feb, 12 2012 @ 02:18 PM
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Originally posted by conlget
Is Iran a war hungry country trying to push for a war, we know they have something but why are they trying to hide it. even if it their project is really to help themself why do they insist to tease the world, What do you think will happen if a man wills a gun and saying death to everyone then when someone kills him for the safety of others the family of the gunman will say why do we bully them.


This an example post of a war monger rant





Is Iran a war hungry country trying to push for a war, we know they have something but why are they trying to hide it. even if it their project is really to help themself why do they insist to tease the world,


Really? tell me conlget which country did Iran Invade during this era can you name me just one country?

Iran isn't power hungry country trying to push for a war, but America sure is why cant you see that?



posted on Feb, 12 2012 @ 02:55 PM
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Originally posted by hmdphantom

Originally posted by OldCorp

Originally posted by conlget
Is Iran a war hungry country trying to push for a war, we know they have something but why are they trying to hide it. even if it their project is really to help themself why do they insist to tease the world, What do you think will happen if a man wills a gun and saying death to everyone then when someone kills him for the safety of others the family of the gunman will say why do we bully them.


This is their government's motivation.

That's from Iranian State-run TV. It's pretty clear that they want to instigate enough bloodshed to speed up the return of the Mahdi so that Islam will rule the world. Iranian President Ahmadinejad and Supreme Leader Kahmeini are both "Twelvers" as are the majority of the Iranian religious leaders. Iran is a theocracy, and they are fulfilling the role they see themselves playing in their End Time eschatology.


I suggest you use silence instead of saying what you don't know anything about.

Talking about what you don't know about will not make you informed.

12th Imam will not some after bloodshed and that is not what we believe.

Or he should have came after the bloodshed in Iran-Iraq


war.


Ok now we have the cogs spining, so now i say "now what?" with your knowledge and as i can see motivation what can words do but go in a circle. you can tell me all you want but i'm I the one to convince? I am but one person i have no power by giving me somthing to think about will not stop the war at foot. so I will tell you "Now What? what is the next step to truth?" and dont give me more pro's or con's. I do hope you write back i think you have a great personality that if given the chance could change the world. I am an Observer, i take no sides but see how things play out I write things to find the deep minds and there are many on this site and you happen to be one.
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posted on Feb, 12 2012 @ 03:05 PM
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Originally posted by jacobe001
The majority of those Muslim Countries populations hate their leaders because they are dictators propped up by the West. I'm sure if you asked the civilians of those countries their take on it, they will tell the West to Get out!


Originally posted by SLAYER69
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The funny thing about that map is that according to wikileaks [Believable only if damning the West] is that the majority of those predominantly Muslim countries have all asked the US to take action on Iran. [Which so far has been refused]



Is that why we have people in countries like Syria begging the West to help them?

Ok, believe what you want but I know truth and not anti-West propaganda, too bad if you can't but still...



posted on Feb, 12 2012 @ 03:15 PM
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Originally posted by Tecumte
reply to post by hmdphantom
 


So are you posting from Iran? Are you Iranian?

Your quote:

"Truth is that some people have decided to come here (middle east) take the resources and our lands then they want us to shut up."

Sounds to me alot like what Native America went though.



We are all human and bleed the same.

I am Iranian.



You are being assimilated by The Borg.


what do you mean ?



posted on Feb, 12 2012 @ 03:20 PM
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Originally posted by conlget

Originally posted by hmdphantom

Originally posted by OldCorp

Originally posted by conlget
Is Iran a war hungry country trying to push for a war, we know they have something but why are they trying to hide it. even if it their project is really to help themself why do they insist to tease the world, What do you think will happen if a man wills a gun and saying death to everyone then when someone kills him for the safety of others the family of the gunman will say why do we bully them.


This is their government's motivation.

That's from Iranian State-run TV. It's pretty clear that they want to instigate enough bloodshed to speed up the return of the Mahdi so that Islam will rule the world. Iranian President Ahmadinejad and Supreme Leader Kahmeini are both "Twelvers" as are the majority of the Iranian religious leaders. Iran is a theocracy, and they are fulfilling the role they see themselves playing in their End Time eschatology.


I suggest you use silence instead of saying what you don't know anything about.

Talking about what you don't know about will not make you informed.

12th Imam will not some after bloodshed and that is not what we believe.

Or he should have came after the bloodshed in Iran-Iraq


war.


Ok now we have the cogs spining, so now i say "now what?" with your knowledge and as i can see motivation what can words do but go in a circle. you can tell me all you want but i'm I the one to convince? I am but one person i have no power by giving me somthing to think about will not stop the war at foot. so I will tell you "Now What? what is the next step to truth?" and dont give me more pro's or con's. I do hope you write back i think you have a great personality that if given the chance could change the world. I am an Observer, i take no sides but see how things play out I write things to find the deep minds and there are many on this site and you happen to be one.
edit on 12-2-2012 by conlget because: (no reason given)


I have never planed to do much. Because in middle east we are the ones who others come with plans toward us.

But a good start would be if every one come back home , mind his own business. People make their own production and expect as much as they are working for.

But this is not what we see. There are some people who come to take the most by any mean necessary.

Those greedy people should be stopped.



posted on Feb, 12 2012 @ 04:46 PM
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Originally posted by hmdphantom

Originally posted by conlget

Originally posted by hmdphantom

Originally posted by OldCorp

Originally posted by conlget
Is Iran a war hungry country trying to push for a war, we know they have something but why are they trying to hide it. even if it their project is really to help themself why do they insist to tease the world, What do you think will happen if a man wills a gun and saying death to everyone then when someone kills him for the safety of others the family of the gunman will say why do we bully them.


This is their government's motivation.

That's from Iranian State-run TV. It's pretty clear that they want to instigate enough bloodshed to speed up the return of the Mahdi so that Islam will rule the world. Iranian President Ahmadinejad and Supreme Leader Kahmeini are both "Twelvers" as are the majority of the Iranian religious leaders. Iran is a theocracy, and they are fulfilling the role they see themselves playing in their End Time eschatology.


I suggest you use silence instead of saying what you don't know anything about.

Talking about what you don't know about will not make you informed.

12th Imam will not some after bloodshed and that is not what we believe.

Or he should have came after the bloodshed in Iran-Iraq


war.


Ok now we have the cogs spining, so now i say "now what?" with your knowledge and as i can see motivation what can words do but go in a circle. you can tell me all you want but i'm I the one to convince? I am but one person i have no power by giving me somthing to think about will not stop the war at foot. so I will tell you "Now What? what is the next step to truth?" and dont give me more pro's or con's. I do hope you write back i think you have a great personality that if given the chance could change the world. I am an Observer, i take no sides but see how things play out I write things to find the deep minds and there are many on this site and you happen to be one.
edit on 12-2-2012 by conlget because: (no reason given)


I have never planed to do much. Because in middle east we are the ones who others come with plans toward us.

But a good start would be if every one come back home , mind his own business. People make their own production and expect as much as they are working for.

But this is not what we see. There are some people who come to take the most by any mean necessary.

Those greedy people should be stopped.


Yes this is a true answer, coming from the heart can never be wrong I know some things can be hard but sometimes you have to pile the bandage to clean the wound. I know I can never understand your point of view or what you had to deal with but in the long run maybe just maybe we can pull these ideas together and see the whole picture. So now one question answered, and many more to go.
edit on 12-2-2012 by conlget because: for my own reasons



posted on Feb, 12 2012 @ 10:10 PM
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Did you notice how the woman in the video looks like a roman catholic nun? That didn't go unnoticed by me. I'm starting to recall Alberto Rivera's stuff about how the Vatican created Islam to kill the jews and christians so they could have Jerusalem.

Islams goal is to rule the world and implement worldwide Sharia Law and where does that leave people who refuse to convert?

"Off with their heads!"- Queen of Hearts (Alice in Wonderland)



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