Greece bailouts : 136% of GDP, page 2
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reply posted on 11-2-2012 @ 11:55 PM by LightSpeedDriver
reply to post by Vitchilo


Thanks for clarifying. I suppose I should have known it wouldn't last long but I was trying to be hopeful. You are indeed correct when you state it's not just Greece but I think many would rather bury their head in the sand. Here in Holland they are still trying to uphold the illusion that things are bad, but not that bad. As long as people here can have their holidays and their shiny cars, nobody really gives a damn. No one wants to wake up from their oh so comfortable false dream. I guess the Queen here likes here royal income from Shell, tulip sales and all the rest, while still protesting that she doesn't have "that much money". The ostrich effect is in full swing still. Sad but true.

Thanks.


reply posted on 12-2-2012 @ 01:34 AM by ColCurious
reply to post by Vitchilo


Originally posted by Vitchilo
[...] Same thing going in America, Japan, UK, France... even Germany... all their banks are over-leveraged and when they blow, they bring down the whole country down with them.

Now remember where we were before the global financial crisis was triggered and before the EZ started to show the first cracks...

Germanys debt ratio was decreasing... our Debt-to-GDP ratio was imroving so fast that we would have had a fully consolidated budget by the end of 2015, despite the process of reintegrating former east Germany!
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reply posted on 13-2-2012 @ 06:15 PM by crankyoldman
reply to post by JustXeno



be thankful you are not an economist, they are some of the dumbest, most brainwashed people ever. The majority can't explain fiat currency.

As to whether those countries are doing well after quitting certain aspects of the IMF, well they were in many ways isolated. The Greek mess was created, on purpose - the Euro was designed to fail, and the problem is the entire world is attached.

So a more apt comparison of what will happen if the "default" is achieved is Zimbabwe. Lots of folks love the idea of "let the banks fail" but very few of them have the stomach that will take weeks of little food. The system as it is, half the world suffers a lot, if the defaults happen - all the world suffers a whole lot more. Tough spot where are in.
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