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And if he was Lord, while a human being, then it certainly doesn't belittle us at all as his followers who are meant to grow in stature, and mind, and soul, until Christ himself (although the student can never be as great as the master).
I put forward that Jesus also represents not JUST salvation, but an evolutionary principal for the human being.
Originally posted by wildtimes
reply to post by KJV1611
Those who would be saved later on (His followers) called Him LORD. Jesus was not a religious teacher..
Okay, you DO realize that the King James Version of the Bible, on which you portray a crown, was translated during the feudal time of people in England (where he lived) who referred to their superiors as "Lord"....right?
What? What in the sam hill are you talking about when you say "He was not a religious teacher"?
He taught the Golden Rule. He disputed the status quo. He taught the truth. The TRUTH, that if you live loving God, and loving your neighbor as yourself, you will reunite with the Divine after several go-rounds here on earth as a mortal, having been "Born Again" time after time while you learn the lessons via experience.
IF that was the case... (him being God) why would you follow paul?
You make my head hurt my friend..
So I should be a blubbering wreck crying wet Christian instead? Just so you know.....The only reason you know anything AT ALL about Jesus Christ is because of the Bible you so carelessly make light of. What? , if I started waving my hands in the air, dancing around praising a mythical "Yahwuah" and talking in tongues like a lunatic would that make me less "dry". You need to separate your facts from your emotions dealing with Christianity bud.....
You know the Bible like the back of your hand, but you don't seem to know the living Christ very well at all, you're what I call a "dry" Christian, spiritually, and I feel sorry for you, because once in your condition, it's not easy to liven you up.
Your use of the Bible separates you........and others from Christ, I realize that sounds harsh, but it's true.
Originally posted by KJV1611
reply to post by NewAgeMan
Your use of the Bible separates you........and others from Christ, I realize that sounds harsh, but it's true.
That is the purpose of the Holy Bible....you did know that right? The HOLY Bible isn't used so we can all get together and hold hands as a big fat family with God as our father and us man in a brotherhood. No, the Bible is used to CUT and SEPARATE Christians from the world. We Christians are segregationists at heart and are not to be found living "worldly" Matter of fact, we are to hate this world. It was God's job to LOVE it John 3:16, not ours.
Hebrews 4:12
"For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart. "
Originally posted by KJV1611
You need to separate your facts from your emotions dealing with Christianity bud.....
edit on 13-2-2012 by KJV1611 because: more sarcasm
Originally posted by KJV1611
reply to post by NewAgeMan
Your use of the Bible separates you........and others from Christ, I realize that sounds harsh, but it's true.
That is the purpose of the Holy Bible....you did know that right? The HOLY Bible isn't used so we can all get together and hold hands as a big fat family with God as our father and us man in a brotherhood. No, the Bible is used to >>snipped for brevity
Oh really eh, it's not to redeem God's creation, for a new heaven and a new earth which includes the brotherhood of man in a family framework, when God comes to live with his people and be their God..?
The Bible isn't to tear Christians apart...its to tear NATIONS apart. Why you think the Bible is banned in so many different nations. Heck, there is a whole government form (Communism) based on getting rid of anything to do with the Bible. Our government has followed suit through out the 60's till now. But I'll leave you alone if you are really a Christian. I don't want you to get over loaded. Keep feeding on milk for now my friend. Come back for meat when you are ready.
It's to tear us all apart and make us hate the world (even the creation), while waiting anxiously to DIE, ok, whatever you say Bible dude.
Originally posted by NewAgeMan
Originally posted by KJV1611
reply to post by NewAgeMan
Your use of the Bible separates you........and others from Christ, I realize that sounds harsh, but it's true.
That is the purpose of the Holy Bible....you did know that right? The HOLY Bible isn't used so we can all get together and hold hands as a big fat family with God as our father and us man in a brotherhood. No, the Bible is used to >>snipped for brevity
Jesus Christ is NOT "at the door" as you said, Christ IS THE DOOR. And you must enter in THROUGH HIM to be saved. There is a HUGE difference. Your way teaches religion gets you to heaven. Mine teaches salvation is in a PERSON.
....and shows the way to the gatefold (which is Christ himself at the door)
.Jesus did not have to. Grace had to be taught to the gentiles to explain their calling. The Jews needed no such instruction since they firmly understood their election as being through their forefathers.
If you follow your mythical "golden rule", you will simply enter into Hell as a good person.
Are you just making this stuff up on the go?
. . . otherwise known as Humanism, which God hates.
....to accept Jesus Christ as your own personal sacrifice for the sin you were born into, and the sins you committed.