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Originally posted by ashtonhz8907
I consider myself a Christian but I do not go to church as churches make it seem like there is a catch and are very judgmental.
I feel bad for not going to worship in a church but I believe the church is not what God or Jesus had in mind.
Originally posted by sacgamer25
Originally posted by ashtonhz8907
I consider myself a Christian but I do not go to church as churches make it seem like there is a catch and are very judgmental.
I feel bad for not going to worship in a church but I believe the church is not what God or Jesus had in mind.
When two or more gather in my name I am there with them.
I go to church all the time, with my kids, my coworkers, anyone who I think will listen. Am I not at church now? The church is not a building, we are the church, spread the good news and you are at church.edit on 11-2-2012 by sacgamer25 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Pelvi
reply to post by Lionhearte
For me it's more like this, if god exists and it is in the Christian form I honestly think I'd rather go to hell ;/
Reason being is if god would rather show his face in Tim Tebows throwing yard average and not help the millions of starving kids who had no reason to be put on this earth if that's all they were going to endure.
So it's no offense to anyone who worships the Christian faith, its just MY OWN feelings toward it.
Originally posted by sacgamer25
Originally posted by ashtonhz8907
I consider myself a Christian but I do not go to church as churches make it seem like there is a catch and are very judgmental.
I feel bad for not going to worship in a church but I believe the church is not what God or Jesus had in mind.
When two or more gather in my name I am there with them.
I go to church all the time, with my kids, my coworkers, anyone who I think will listen. Am I not at church now? The church is not a building, we are the church, spread the good news and you are at church.
Originally posted by Pelvi
reply to post by Lionhearte
For me it's more like this, if god exists and it is in the Christian form I honestly think I'd rather go to hell ;/
Reason being is if god would rather show his face in Tim Tebows throwing yard average and not help the millions of starving kids who had no reason to be put on this earth if that's all they were going to endure.
So it's no offense to anyone who worships the Christian faith, its just MY OWN feelings toward it.
Originally posted by seedofchucky
What you mean no catch ? lol
The catch is defying god , and calling jesus the son of god , or even worse God him self!
Now bible tells us god is jealous , do you really think he would want to be partnered up with creation ? Such disrespect to god him self.
If there is a god , then it should all be through him . Not his creation a.k.a jesus.
Originally posted by LightSpeedDriver
reply to post by Lionhearte
I know a catch (and I'm not a hater).
You have to die first to get your "reward". A big catch imho.
You cannot deny there are intolerant people in this world. Would it be wrong to say that Homosexuals single themselves out because they "think" everyone in the world hates them? Of course, not literally "everyone", and the same is true for religious people, not everyone hates them, no, but there are still intolerant people in this world, and they love to talk.
Originally posted by InsideYourMind
I think you will find alot of people on here are more or less against the idea of religion as a whole, one reason might be because believers of all religions tend to single themselves out by assuming everyone "hates them" and them alone while reffering to bitter discrimination against them... when in actual fact these people are discriminating against themselves by assuming everyone hates "them".
Religion to me, does not explain anything in the slightest and is meerly an opinionated and exaggerated view of the world due to a lack of understanding.
The catch? Faith is a lost hope.
As per the bible quote at the end, it is nothing but the word of man, a single man. It does not explain or prove aything.
Originally posted by Pelvi
Also this, I don't like how people don't leave room for their god to be wrong. What do I mean by this?.. Well for instance god tells you to pray and everything and if it's in his will then you get it. Okay then why pray? I mean if it's in his will I will already get it wouldn't I? So if my grandmother dies of cancer then that's okay because that was what was in gods will but if the doctor busts his ass and actually does save her then praise the lord he is so good!
Why would god be a jealous god? Why would god need to be jealous? Like I said in the other thread, god cannot posses vanity, along with the whole idea of Satan. Satan used to be gods right hand man but he possessed jealousy and tried to take over right? Weren't angels perfect creations? Meaning angles cannot sin? Once again contradictions and never room that this book of theirs is filled with holes. Instead of considering the possibilities they just fill the hole with gibberish and tell me that I just have to have faith, never really answering the question.
Originally posted by ashtonhz8907
Originally posted by sacgamer25
Originally posted by ashtonhz8907
I consider myself a Christian but I do not go to church as churches make it seem like there is a catch and are very judgmental.
I feel bad for not going to worship in a church but I believe the church is not what God or Jesus had in mind.
When two or more gather in my name I am there with them.
I go to church all the time, with my kids, my coworkers, anyone who I think will listen. Am I not at church now? The church is not a building, we are the church, spread the good news and you are at church.edit on 11-2-2012 by sacgamer25 because: (no reason given)
Thank you for the comfort. I do practice in my household with family but I find approaching people on the subject to be a tad difficult I only approach the subject when I notice they are fellow believers.
I do not spread the word as often as I should only to people I develop friendships with(I do drop the subject quickly if I see distaste), but as far as visiting an actual church I find the idea repulsive. Maybe I just haven't found one for me.edit on 2/11/2012 by ashtonhz8907 because: (no reason given)
Anyways, I'll assume you, the reader, are not a Christian; or follower of Christ, or child of God, etc.. Under that assumption, answer me this simple question -
What is the CATCH of Christianity?
The basic premise of Christianity is this - We are sinners, God gave us the law, man failed to follow it, He sent his Son, Jesus Christ, to die on the cross as a living sacrifice (being perfect and committing no sins), to carry the burdens and sins of the world on his shoulders, that whosoever believeth in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
That's it, believe in Jesus, and you're saved. No, you don't have to go to church, you don't have to give 80% of your paycheck to your nearby church, you don't have to do anything. Just believe.
Want proof? The thief on the cross.
Luke 23:42-43
Then he [the thief] said, "Jesus, remember me when you come into your kingdom."
Jesus answered him, "I tell you the truth, today you will be with me in paradise."
That's it. The thief was a sinner all his life, all up until they crucified him. He wasn't brought down and baptized, he wasn't told to do this or that, all he did was confess his faith that Jesus was the Son of God, and he is now living in eternal paradise.
So, I ask you again -