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Originally posted by DJW001
reply to post by pshea38
Breivik doesn't exist. He is a computer generated, purposely designed, contradictory
and enigmatic boogieman.
Toward what end? Why all the expense of this elaborate charade? Who gains?
MONEY FOR NOTHING
Did you wonder - where's the cash? Where's the motivation behind this Oslo PsyOp?
If anyone is wondering how the Breivik PsyOp could possibly generate huge amounts of cash for the folks behind the hoax (all indications pointing to Prime Minister Jens Stoltenberg and his "Arbeiderpartiet" - the ruling Norwegian Labour Party), here's an interesting article - published only 4 days after the event:
mobil.bt.no... ... 44241.html[url]
The article says, in substance, that if Breivik himself cannot cover the expenses of his deeds, there's a Norwegian law that says that, in the case of a defendant not having enough money to cover the costs of his criminal deeds, the state will cover for those expenses. In other words, the Norwegian taxpayers will pay for the destruction of the government buildings (2.4 billion Nkr) and for the family members claims (300million Nkr).
To put this into perspective, 300mil Norwegian kroners are roughly $50million US dollars - and 2.4 billion Nkr are roughly another $400million !
In other words, the Arbeiderpartiet stands to make about 450 million dollars out of this hoax.
Originally posted by DJW001
reply to post by pshea38
We need to ask ourselves 'could something this be faked?'
And if the answer is yes, everything else makes sense.
Well, the answer IS yes.
First of all, the answer is "no." Too many people were witnesses to every aspect of the entire affair for it all to have been CGI. But let's set that aside for a moment.
Your fundamental assumption seems to be "if something can be faked, it must be faked." Someone can place you in a car with curtains across the windows, then shake the car in such a way that you are convinced that the car is moving. Does it then follow that cars do not really move?
Originally posted by smurfy
I would agree with that somewhat. Mostly an event, or a series of real events have taken place. MSM often mess with what they have, in a attempt to manipulate, or mislead or just to make things look good on camera. That is a far cry from creating a digital event from start to finish for the purpose of deception.
Originally posted by Aeons
(sigh) This is the primary problem with these people. They might actually see something useful every now and then, and then they start to obsess about it to such a degree that it overtakes all other mental faculties.
I'm sure there are faked things in the media, and even faked events.
Just because there might be some, doesn't mean it is everyone and everything.
I can never tell if you guys are part of the charade or not. Because seriously, if I had a few events or people I wanted to turn eyes away from I'd give them to you to bury under a pile of crap so tall no one could survive trying to dig it out.
If a reported event could theoretically be faked, and investigation uncovers
an abundance of evidence for fakery, is it out of the question to consider whether
or not said reported event was in fact faked? No, it is not!
Originally posted by DJW001
reply to post by pshea38
We need to ask ourselves 'could something this be faked?'
And if the answer is yes, everything else makes sense.
Well, the answer IS yes.
First of all, the answer is "no." Too many people were witnesses to every aspect of the entire affair for it all to have been CGI. But let's set that aside for a moment.
Your fundamental assumption seems to be "if something can be faked, it must be faked." Someone can place you in a car with curtains across the windows, then shake the car in such a way that you are convinced that the car is moving. Does it then follow that cars do not really move?
EXACTLY. OP is asking the wrong questions. He should be asking why the people are taking the action of shaking the car, and who they are.
Originally posted by Aeons
(sigh) This is the primary problem with these people. They might actually see something useful every now and then, and then they start to obsess about it to such a degree that it overtakes all other mental faculties.
I'm sure there are faked things in the media, and even faked events.
Just because there might be some, doesn't mean it is everyone and everything.
I can never tell if you guys are part of the charade or not. Because seriously, if I had a few events or people I wanted to turn eyes away from I'd give them to you to bury under a pile of crap so tall no one could survive trying to dig it out.
Originally posted by DJW001
EXACTLY. OP is asking the wrong questions. He should be asking why the people are taking the action of shaking the car, and who they are.
The most important question is why someone is trying to convince people that the whole thing is a hoax?
Originally posted by DJW001
The most important question is why someone is trying to convince people that the whole thing is a hoax?
Originally posted by Taz2122
Originally posted by DJW001
The most important question is why someone is trying to convince people that the whole thing is a hoax?
Ah, yes. A rather interresting question indeed.
I used to frequent that site many moons ago and they almost had me convinced. That is, until I found out a friend of mine lost his cousin that fateful day.
-I think you are easily convinced by your source material because you see how the apparent loss of life seems comical.
Originally posted by strangedays
Originally posted by Aeons
(sigh) This is the primary problem with these people. They might actually see something useful every now and then, and then they start to obsess about it to such a degree that it overtakes all other mental faculties.
I'm sure there are faked things in the media, and even faked events.
Just because there might be some, doesn't mean it is everyone and everything.
I can never tell if you guys are part of the charade or not. Because seriously, if I had a few events or people I wanted to turn eyes away from I'd give them to you to bury under a pile of crap so tall no one could survive trying to dig it out.
Those were the people I was referring to. They are the true enemies. People like the OP sure flush them out into the public eye somehow, dont they? lol
Originally posted by DJW001
reply to post by strangedays
-I think you are easily convinced by your source material because you see how the apparent loss of life seems comical.
No loss of life is ever comical. I think you have some soul searching to do.
Originally posted by Aeons
Originally posted by strangedays
Originally posted by Aeons
(sigh) This is the primary problem with these people. They might actually see something useful every now and then, and then they start to obsess about it to such a degree that it overtakes all other mental faculties.
I'm sure there are faked things in the media, and even faked events.
Just because there might be some, doesn't mean it is everyone and everything.
I can never tell if you guys are part of the charade or not. Because seriously, if I had a few events or people I wanted to turn eyes away from I'd give them to you to bury under a pile of crap so tall no one could survive trying to dig it out.
Those were the people I was referring to. They are the true enemies. People like the OP sure flush them out into the public eye somehow, dont they? lol
No, they really don't. The OP is the people I'd give a staged event to to watch them bury it in a pile of crap at top speed.