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Most Canadians want the death penalty back

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posted on Feb, 11 2012 @ 12:09 PM
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Im against the death penalty. I guess im in the minority.

It is surprising though, how high the numbers are for its reinstatement. Not many I know would be in favour of it.




posted on Feb, 11 2012 @ 12:51 PM
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Pictons victims where prostitutes. Bernardo killed innocent teens. Bernardo is far worse than Picton. Prostitutes get into a risky lifestyle. Both bare very bad but in my opinion, Bernardo is the one who should be executed first.



posted on Feb, 11 2012 @ 02:02 PM
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Personally, when I think of the ramifications of being handed a sentence of life in prison, or the death penalty, I've gotta say, life in prison sounds alot worse to me than chemical execution. They make efforts to ensure that the process is pain free. How can they even call that punishment. For some of our criminals, death is viewed as the way out and most of them are too cowardly to kill themselves so it would seem like a good bid for assisted suicide. They really do not have a clue in the legislative branch of our government as all of them are sheltered from cradle to grave. They have no concept of what goes on in the real world, from what I can gather.



posted on Feb, 11 2012 @ 02:10 PM
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I myself don't think the death penalty is needed... we've got Ellesmere Island.. send hardcore criminals there, have them chop wood. In a proper prison setting, not a gulag. Hard crime, hard labour.

In short... No death penalty.



posted on Feb, 11 2012 @ 02:20 PM
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1,00 Canadians can't possibly represent all of Canada. It seems silly to take this to mean the death penalty should come back.



posted on Feb, 11 2012 @ 03:04 PM
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I am Canadian and i have spoken to many friends and family about this issue and from what i hear, this seems "dead wrong" as you put it.

I personally do not think this reflects how the people actually feel about it.


Cheers!



posted on Feb, 11 2012 @ 03:17 PM
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I cannot fathom or comprehend the hypocrisy and irony in murdering someone for murder someone. It makes no sense.



posted on Feb, 11 2012 @ 03:28 PM
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Although I've never had much faith in polls to begin with, in the case of this one I find myself agreeing with the results. Canadians are getting more and more fed up with all the shooting and killing that's now taking place in our cities, and since prison no longer seems to be the deterrant it once was, maybe it's time the death penalty was reinstated, and at the same time bring back the 'lash'.
Because innocent people have been wrongly executed, I was against having a death penalty in Canada, but Forensics have come such a long way that I'm sure the chance of a wrongful execution has become a thing of the past. In the event certain forensic testing such as DNA evidence is inconclusive, don't pronounce the death sentence, but give a sentence of life in prison instead. I also think a sentence of death should be handed down only in certain murder cases, and only after proper deliberation by the jury.
The death sentence should have been reinstated long ago, then there wouldn't be nearly as many shootings and killings taking place in our cities. These shootings by the way are mostly commited by thugs in street gangs, USING ILLEGAL HAND GUNS THAT HAVE BEEN SMUGGLED INTO THE COUNTRY, AND EXCEPT IN RARE OCCASIONS DO NOT INVOLVE THE USE OF LONG GUNS SUCH AS RIFLES AND SHOTGUNS USED IN HUNTING AND SPORTS SHOOTING! (Sorry for all the caps!) These street thugs will kill anyway, even if guns were not available!
I'm not a great lover of cops, but there are times when I do feel sorry for them. Thanks to these street gangs, they are faced with a much bigger work load, while at the same time their operating budgets are cut. They know it's mostly blacks and Asians who are doing most of the shootings, but if they happen to stop a car load of either, they are immediately labelled "racist", and subsequently are raked over the coals by an ungrateful and mostly brain-dead media always looking to sensationalize for the sake of sales, as well as ladder climbing superiors who are more interested in politics than they are in fighting crime!
I'm not here to argue (too old), but merely state my opinion! I believe the prospect of dangling at the end of a rope will go a long way toward making our cities' streets safe again!



posted on Feb, 11 2012 @ 04:03 PM
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I'm not buying that "study" Canadians are way too peaceful.



posted on Feb, 11 2012 @ 04:37 PM
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As a Canadian, when the death penalty issue comes up in my neck of the woods, the initial reaction is usually that they don't want it because it's the poor who can't afford good lawyers who will end up getting it, also what is brought up is the people in the Canadian justice system who were convicted of heinous crimes and then proven to have been not guilty and released.

Alot of people put the likes of Clifford Olsen and R. Pickton in a different category of human and could care less if they are executed, the thing is once you open up that death penalty box for the worst, proven serial killers, where is it gonna lead, what changes to the law are gonna be made to include more and more different types of felons to be eligible for the death penalty. It's opening a box that many Canadians don't want to see opened even if that means letting proven serial killers spend life in prison.

I sure don't trust a Harper government to do what's right in this area. I consider Harper himself to more than likely be a psychopath himself. The government has been slashing eligiblity requirements and funding to be able to access decent lawyers if your on the low-income level and even middle class people have to put their hard earned items such as homes up as collateral in order to insure funding for a good lawyer so a fair case will be heard.

Are the rich and well off criminals with connections and top of the line lawyers gonna be first in line to receive the death penalty? that's extremely unlikely. What about those treasonous bastards in government and corporations similar to Halliburton who send good men and women to die in other countries based on lies and propaganda so they can enhance their own bank accounts due to war profiteering?, are they ever gonna receive the death penalty or even be charged with any crimes? No. The system is slanted on the side of the rich and connected, so long as that is the case, and it always has been, there should never be a death penalty.



posted on Feb, 11 2012 @ 04:43 PM
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Firstly, the Canadians have the Death Penalty - ASK THE BABY SEALS ABOUT IT!!!!

Secondly, why does anybody care? Canada is owned by the US and China. Between the pair of these countries there are more death penalty case outstanding than anywhere else.

Thirdly, does anyone outside of Canada care??????????? NO



posted on Feb, 11 2012 @ 04:48 PM
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Any survey has to be carefully analyzed, there are many ways to skew the results by asking questions in a certain way or order.

Link to PDF of survey

First we need to keep in mind that this survey is about "capital punishment for murderers", not about capital punishment in general.

I think that the first question:

"Next, we’d like to ask you some questions about the death penalty. Which of these statements comes
closest to your own point of view about the death penalty?"
Results
The death penalty is always appropriate (8%)
The death penalty is sometimes appropriate (63%)
...

primes respondents for a positive response to the second one, the result of which is cited in the OP:

"As you may know, Canada eliminated the death penalty for murder in July 1976. All things considered,
would you support or oppose reinstating the death penalty for murder in Canada?"
Support (61%)
Oppose (34%)
...

After all, if you responded "Sometimes appropriate" to the first question, it would be illogical to respond "Oppose" to the second one.

And indeed, the response to this question on page seven paints a different picture:
"All things considered, which of these two approaches would you prefer as a punishment for convicted
murderers in Canada?"
Life imprisonment without the possibility of parole (50%)
The death penalty (38%)
...

Which really asks the same question in a different way and might show cognitive dissonance or a flawed method of questioning.

Have a nice weekend



posted on Feb, 11 2012 @ 04:53 PM
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Originally posted by lampsalot

Most Canadians want the death penalty back


www.canada.com

OTTAWA — A majority of Canadians say they support reinstating the death penalty for murder, according to a new poll.

In an online survey of 1,002 Canadian adults by Angus Reid, conducted in partnership with the Toronto Star, sixty-one per cent said they support reinstating capital punishment — which the Canadian government abolished in 1976. However, 34 per cent of respondents disagreed.

According to pollsters, while a majority of Canadians say they support the return of capital punishment, this support "drops considerably" when given the choice of life in prison without parole. Fi
(visit the link for the full news article)



So 611 Canadians constitutes as "Most Canadians?"
I don't think so...



posted on Feb, 11 2012 @ 04:56 PM
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Personally, I think they should bring in the death penalty for corrupt politicians, bureaucrats and lobbyists. Murder, although a terrible thing effects the victim and their immediate family., it destroys one life and may cripple a few others. Politicians and their ilk on the other hand by making bad corporate decisions based on greed and avarice, effect millions, destroy tens of thousands of lives and cripple hundreds of thousands. Political crimes or treasons against those you represent is a heinous thing, just look at all the treacherous bills these @ssclowns put through along with the recent alleged November 2010 signing of ACTA.

Which is the "larger" crime? Think about it.

Governments need to be responsible and transparent otherwise I am quite sure people will start stocking up on rope.

Cheers - Dave



posted on Feb, 11 2012 @ 05:03 PM
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Originally posted by Six6Six
reply to post by lampsalot
 


Firstly, the Canadians have the Death Penalty - ASK THE BABY SEALS ABOUT IT!!!!

Secondly, why does anybody care? Canada is owned by the US and China. Between the pair of these countries there are more death penalty case outstanding than anywhere else.

Thirdly, does anyone outside of Canada care??????????? NO


Firstly, very abrasive of you. Let me fix that for you:

Six6six: "Do I care? NO."

There we go, a bit more accurate since you don't have a clue what other people think.


Secondly; If people want fish in the sea, then they need to shush up about the poor baby seals. Those seals if left unchecked will eat most of the fish. Considering we've got massive over-fishing going on to feed PEOPLE, combine that with an unchecked seal population and PEOPLE will be sacrificing a vital food source to feed those seals. Welcome to reality!

Thirdly; Canada isn't owned by anyone. Canada trades heavily with US and China, but have lately preferred trade with China over America. About time probably, Americans tend to be very rude and obnoxious to Canadians, that is not a real friend. This is why after Obama rejected the keystone pipeline, Canada packed up their bags and said "FINE, we'll just sell it all to China." This trend is continuing with other countries as well; America can't keep slapping people across the face with horrible foreign policies and expect foreign investment to fall in America's lap. Especially with a socialist government and high taxes. Yikes.
edit on 11-2-2012 by L00kingGlass because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 11 2012 @ 05:22 PM
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Originally posted by Six6Six
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Thirdly, does anyone outside of Canada care??????????? NO


If you don't care what Canadians think why are you on this thread? Do you speak for everyone in the whole world who lives outside of Canada? How do you know what everyone thinks? This is supreme arrogance on your part. Truly I don't understand posters like you who go and read a whole thread and then take the time to comment "who cares". Don't you have anything better to do?



posted on Feb, 11 2012 @ 05:29 PM
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That is the United States of Corporations (America) in a nutshell my friend.

Peace.



posted on Feb, 11 2012 @ 05:41 PM
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This survey is flawed.... I for one appose the death penalty i think its barbaric and disgusting, and the 40 friends 1 asked appose as well. where did they find these people???? FLAWED!!!



posted on Feb, 11 2012 @ 06:01 PM
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Murders are happening left right and center these days. My step dad was telling me a time when a murder was a big thing in NZ because they didn't happen all that often.

It's ridiculous that now they're scattered all over the news and the guilty party gets off with 5 years in prison. I think it is very plausible to bring back the death penalty to many countries. Prison has become more like a rest home as to the older fashioned prisons.

We're too soft on today's criminals. It's time to crack down on them

Thanks for reading
CRB



posted on Feb, 11 2012 @ 06:39 PM
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Originally posted by Six6Six
reply to post by lampsalot
 


Firstly, the Canadians have the Death Penalty - ASK THE BABY SEALS ABOUT IT!!!!

Secondly, why does anybody care? Canada is owned by the US and China. Between the pair of these countries there are more death penalty case outstanding than anywhere else.

Thirdly, does anyone outside of Canada care??????????? NO


Then why did you go to a thread that was titled Canadian?

My personal opinion on the thread, well yes, bring back the death penalty. For too long, Canada (due to Pierre Trudeau) has been a rehabilitation society. Ever since then the rights afforded to the victims has taken huge blows. The guilty have more rights then victims, enough is enough.

bring back the death penalty, bring back justice to those wronged.



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