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Stop Bashing Us Military Folks.

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posted on Feb, 10 2012 @ 08:03 PM
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Yup, the public has no idea how much dissent is within the ranks right now. There have even been some general grade officers who have raised the bull #snip# flag on alot of issues as of recent. War takes a huge toll on people and will change your outlook on life.
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posted on Feb, 10 2012 @ 08:03 PM
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These American snipers believed the flag stood for "Sniper Scout". It is a shame we have to be trained on what different things mean to other countries. I was told by a Saudi Arabian that it is disrespectful to accept a gratuity with your left hand after I received it from him with my left hand. He knew I was not aware of this rule. So, for you to be so foolish to point out the flag, it just proves what I stated above.



posted on Feb, 10 2012 @ 08:06 PM
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And I owe you a thank you as well. Your superior showing of ignorance has just made my point drive home even harder. So thany you sabalsis1972.



posted on Feb, 10 2012 @ 08:12 PM
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Originally posted by usmc0311
I'm writing this in response to this thread.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

People are so quick to chime in and immediately Bash anyone with Military ties on this website. It seems that the overall opinion by most around here is that we are just a bunch of war mongering, blood thirsty, brainwashed sociopaths who are hell bent on killing all who don't agree with us.

They always seem to fail to ask any questions of us or our service before the attacks begin. We are never asked our reasons for joining the service. We are never asked if we joined the military prior to the current wars or not. We are never asked our opinions of the wars and the people in charge. Everyone just assumes we all signed up to go to Iraq and Afganistan specifically to kill for fun because we are all sicko's. While yes, there are bad apples in the military just like anywhere else that doesn't give credence to the actions of a few around her. I have no problem with people being critical of our military as long as it is respectfull and informed. I actually welcome people with oposite opinions of mine because we are all different and have different opinions and that is the best way to learn in my opinion.

I guess I would just like to see a little respect used before all out attacks occur over prejudged opinions of other ATS'rs. I try not to judge others at least until I know enough about them to properly do so. I am just asking for the same thing from everyone. Although this is not a perfect world and I'm sure that I will be attacked in my own thread here, I just wanted to throw this out there to all the narrow minded people who attack before they ask. Peace to all and Semper Fi.
edit on 10/2/12 by usmc0311 because: forgoten word.


Dont you think that anyone that joins the military is a mercenary? Do you really think the 'War on Terror' is a threat to your country?

I think people that join the military are good with killing strangers for money. Its not about protecting the country. You kill for money.
I think that is why public opinion is against people that join the military. There is no war.You are mercenaries.



posted on Feb, 10 2012 @ 08:15 PM
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So what about all of us who were in before the wars huh, are we still mercenaries. What should we all do defect and get sent to leavenworth for a long time? How would that benifit our families? Again with the repeated ignorant grouping of us all together without asking a darn thing about us. Well, here is another example to amplify my point in my OP. Thanks



posted on Feb, 10 2012 @ 08:19 PM
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I am not demonizing you, if you all don`t understand the issue it is ok, you can not understand because you EXECUTE, that way you are a soldier(robot), you don`t think you execute! I like USS Army is the great army now from 1945 so all the great army come to an end (because of passing time ,that is the rule here on planet earth!) the Nazi was the greatest army ever but a bigger one occure because of TIME! so that is all folks ! you are the USS Army an upgrade of SS , and soon maybe because of passing time another great SS army will appear probably .
And you will still remain a soldier (robot) that is it! Kill them all , that is the purpose of the war and guns ! Semper what ever.....



posted on Feb, 10 2012 @ 08:21 PM
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Sabalsis1972, you are Romanian and your country has been in many, many wars over your countries history. May I add, you got your butts kicked too! You don't need to berate my country, we have never done it to yours until NOW! If you want to fight with fire, I will fight back with the sun. Why? Because I am an American and we will not be tread on!



posted on Feb, 10 2012 @ 08:23 PM
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Nobody is above reproach. Not even the Presidents of the nations. If them so much bound to criticisms, so also the militaries of the nations.

This Nazi-like SS flag incident would be a mistake no matter what the nation, globally, through history even. It was a scene of ignorance.

Nobody likes feeling like a puny mortal, I understand. But no amount of weapons, training, education, and genetics is going to keep anybody from being a puny mortal, especially in the face of a camera and a critical report.

Sticks and stones might break my bones, but photos of flags can kill me.

This is why being a politician is harder than being a soldier. Because the pen is mightier than the sword.



posted on Feb, 10 2012 @ 08:23 PM
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Originally posted by usmc0311
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So what about all of us who were in before the wars huh, are we still mercenaries. What should we all do defect and get sent to leavenworth for a long time? How would that benifit our families? Again with the repeated ignorant grouping of us all together without asking a darn thing about us. Well, here is another example to amplify my point in my OP. Thanks


You amplify my point.
Yes you should defect. How can you murder for a corrupt government?
Murder isnt a good way to feed your family. Your partner needs to get a job if thats the case.

The public needs to start calling you people out for what you are.

The public should treat you like they did to those coming home from veitnam when you arrive home from your murder spree's in the middle east.

Those in veitnam had no choice and didnt deserve to be spat on.
You have a choice.
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posted on Feb, 10 2012 @ 08:24 PM
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First of all, I am a Marine. and yes saying we just care about killing is demonizing us so you will no longer be recieving responses from me. I respect that you have an opinion but this is ridiculous.



posted on Feb, 10 2012 @ 08:25 PM
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I don't think it does much good to try to be rational with thes people mate. They have already made up their minds. Unfortunatly, a Unit photo got circulated in the wrong area. I know and trained with Scout Snipers. Good men. Unit photos only mean something to the unit and I hope that in the years to come those same ten men are still around to remember that photo and not a fallen comrade.



posted on Feb, 10 2012 @ 08:26 PM
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P.S. Taken from your history book! " Romanian troops during World War II participated in the destruction of the Jewish communities of Bessarabia and Transnistria (both now comprising the independent Republic of Moldova) and northern Bukovina (now part of Ukraine). Jews in areas now comprising Romania also were subject to harsh persecution, including government-sanctioned pogroms and killings, and about 30% did not survive the Holocaust. Mass emigration, mostly to Israel, has reduced the surviving Jewish community from over 300,000 to less than 10,000."



posted on Feb, 10 2012 @ 08:27 PM
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It just sucks when the troops pay the price for the ignorance and stupidity of the politicians.



posted on Feb, 10 2012 @ 08:29 PM
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I wouldn't call defending myself, my fellow Marines, and innocent people murder, but hey call it what you will. I won't be able to change your opinion so have a nice day, and thanks for the input.



posted on Feb, 10 2012 @ 08:30 PM
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yeah i am what i am and because what i am you are lucky just for now ! Pray to your god to don`t meet a cousin of my nation .A serbian or a croat ex Yugoslavia , they have some "way" to tell you "nice " word !
.. you don`t now #snip# about the real history of this planet that way you act like this , I am kin with you because I like american way of having fun , I was in america to work and fun, i hate war , i had refuse army because i am not an EXECUTANT!! peace!
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posted on Feb, 10 2012 @ 08:30 PM
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Yeah that's just a bad situation all around.



posted on Feb, 10 2012 @ 08:31 PM
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posted on Feb, 10 2012 @ 08:35 PM
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Originally posted by CaptChaos
If you joined the military, for whatever reason, you signed up TO KILL PEOPLE. Does not matter that it is sanctioned by the crooked govt, or that you are brainwashed into thinking THEY are attacking YOU. That is your "job". If you can't see that, I can't help you out, can't do a brain transplant online. That is the military's function, and any idiot knows that.

So if you want to claim you are "just trying to feed your family" or whatever, well, you could also join MS-13 or any other drug gang. You will make a LOT more money, and kill a LOT less people. You could also just do crimes. You would be stealing much less, and killing less people as well.

That's why they want to get you in young, so the brainwashing will take. Adults would see through all the BS from day one.

If you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem. These birds will come home to roost eventually.


you have no idea what you are talking about. do you know there are jobs in the military such as FINANCE, PETROLEUM SPECIALIST, and MECHANIC? and that is just to name a few of the non combat jobs offered by the military. nice try.



posted on Feb, 10 2012 @ 08:36 PM
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posted on Feb, 10 2012 @ 08:38 PM
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Originally posted by SGTSECRET

Originally posted by CaptChaos
If you joined the military, for whatever reason, you signed up TO KILL PEOPLE. Does not matter that it is sanctioned by the crooked govt, or that you are brainwashed into thinking THEY are attacking YOU. That is your "job". If you can't see that, I can't help you out, can't do a brain transplant online. That is the military's function, and any idiot knows that.

So if you want to claim you are "just trying to feed your family" or whatever, well, you could also join MS-13 or any other drug gang. You will make a LOT more money, and kill a LOT less people. You could also just do crimes. You would be stealing much less, and killing less people as well.

That's why they want to get you in young, so the brainwashing will take. Adults would see through all the BS from day one.

If you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem. These birds will come home to roost eventually.


you have no idea what you are talking about. do you know there are jobs in the military such as FINANCE, PETROLEUM SPECIALIST, and MECHANIC? and that is just to name a few of the non combat jobs offered by the military. nice try.


You all have blood on your hands.

Nice try.




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