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reply posted on 10-2-2012 @ 03:47 AM by JohnnySasaki
Originally posted by theubermensch
Originally posted by targeting
What? Iran's defense budget is $9,174,000,000. Ours is $692,000,000,000. We have nuclear weapons. They don't. I don't think that th U.S. should go to war with Iran, but saying that attacking Iran "would be akin to suicide" is just ridiculous.


Do you really think it will be one on one?

Plus America couldnt beat Vietnam or Korea.

Those Viet Kongs werent scared of your military budget.
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It's called politics. Can't win a war you're not allowed to win. On the other hand I bet the Japanese are pretty scared of our military budget. Same with the Germans. Twice. If we were really just allowed to unleash on some country without any restrictions or regard for innocent casualties (much like the way the rest of the world likes to fight us) we could demolish any country of your choosing without even a boot on the ground.

Bottom line is anyone who fights us in a conventional war is gonna lose. Look what happened in the Gulf. Million man army lost in a couple days. What a joke.

What's more, if nobody was scared of our military budget, then how come nobody wants to fight us fair? Always with the running and hiding in caves, or hiding in a building while a convoy goes by to blow up and IED.

I'd say they're pretty scared if you ask me.

Read Lone Survivor once and tell me we couldn't be doing a much better job in ANY war nowadays without the rules of engagement, or at least the bending of said rules.


reply posted on 10-2-2012 @ 06:57 AM by aaronez
reply to post by theubermensch



I wouldn't be so quick in talking about "crumbling" empires. A mouse can only play around the feet of a bull elephant for so long before it gets STOMPED ON! The mullahs in Iran rant and rave and sabre rattle but watch what happens when the gates of hell open before them. They will run like a pack of rats like they did the last time the American 8th fleet positioned itself off their shores. They couldn't open their Swiss bank accounts fast enough! And the 8th fleet does not even constitute 20 percent of your firepower. And Russia? Yes Putin thinks he can rule till he is on his death bed. The Bear is now starting to wake and he, like the Tsars and the Communist Party before him, will be swept away. An out of control Russia.. now THAT is something to be feared because they outgun you in atomic weapons and in a number of other strategic areas (e.g. oil supply, hard science PhDs, conversion of technology..)


reply posted on 10-2-2012 @ 07:26 AM by DoNotForgetMe
Reply to post by woodwardjnr


It is an election year. Obama sees his numbers and knows the ONLY way he will have 4 more is if TSHTF. Iran knows this as well, and whether or not Iran is capable of defending itself, or its allies, is not even a major issue. Like you said, lives will be lost, America's debt will continue to increase, and the same players will reap the benefits of war. It really is obvious, to me, the US is trying to take over the ME. And in a hurry too. Look at what has taken place the last few years. 2012 might not be just another year. Maybe the Change Barrack promised was a OWG. To achieve this there must be another World War.



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reply posted on 10-2-2012 @ 09:44 AM by hp1229
Originally posted by theubermensch
Originally posted by TDawgRex
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post by theubermensch


Huh? Do you know your history?
Germany was divided amongst the victors until 91.
And it wasn't Russia...It was the USSR (the Soviet Union) which is now defunct.

If they had not stopped Germany Hitler would have won the war.
Stalingrad was the decisive victory of WW2.

Correction. Its the weather that helped win the conflict between USSR and Nazi Germany.

LINK1

Ofcourse everyone likes to glorify the war after 60 years but the facts remain that every major allied country involved had a significant role in the outcome. WWII wasn't a single countrys effort. One can self proclaim and praise their favourable country as the bad a$$ all they want. One cannot change the factual history. Imagine if the allies were not involved and only Nazi Germany and USSR were fighting each other?

How old are you son/sir?

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reply posted on 10-2-2012 @ 12:10 PM by nightbringr
Originally posted by kimish
reply to
post by theubermensch



We dragged out the other wars because a quick war doesn't make money. If it were really in the best interest of the people calling the shots to go to war and end it quickly the wars we are involved in would last a couple of weeks. The U.S. possesses Air superiority. The U.S. military has technology that is at least 20 years ahead of our time.


And all this technology is in the hands of even the poorest civilian in some of these countries. With a simple Youtube video of an american bombing of a wedding in Afghanistan, the public backlash against the administration in charge is palpable.

What good is having the best, most well armed army in the world when you are fighting a guerilla war? A simple, low cost IED on the side of the road often does more damage, with less backlash than one of your so-called "smart bombs".

Iraq was a mess until the troop surge. I bet the insurgents fought the war with less than 1% of the budget of the USA, and they inflicted casualties and tied US forces up for years. Having to constantly worry about who you bomb, who will see the carnage, and politics tie the USA hands. The only war the US is capable of fighting, and fighting better than any other country is an all out, no holds barred war.

With each and every incursion into smaller countries, the world despises the USA more and more, and its understandable. Imperialism has no place in todays world.
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reply posted on 10-2-2012 @ 12:32 PM by ALF88
Originally posted by TDawgRex
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post by theubermensch



When pinting fingers, remember that three are pointing back at you.

Iran is quite the bully as well.

They have admitted to State sponsered terrorism. Even boasted about it.


Who defines who a terrorist is and who is not? Exactly the good old US, Israel and their partners.

Lets say Iran defines it from now on.

I call supporting radicals and Al Qaeda in Iran, Syria and Libya state sponsored terrorism.


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reply posted on 10-2-2012 @ 12:41 PM by KwisatzHaderach
reply to post by theubermensch



I like how you completely disregard the rest of my post. I mean the mass public, not the military.


reply posted on 10-2-2012 @ 12:55 PM by TDawgRex
reply to post by ALF88



I agree that all nations have their hands dirty. And that is what I was trying to point out.

To ignore Irans blusterfication ( I just made that up... ) and just concentrate on one side, speaks of hypocrisy in my opinion.
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