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reply posted on 13-2-2012 @ 06:29 PM by neo96
Originally posted by Corruption Exposed
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Proof positive of being a racist bigot who sees the zionist boogeyman everywhere.

Pretty damn sad.

This being America and all where there are socialists,communists,nazis, and everything else which is what the first Amendment was all about any school of thought can coexist with any other and people are free to take it or leave it.

Only a fascist nazi wouldn't understand that.


I'm the furthest thing to a Fascist or Nazi you will ever meet.

Awwwwwweee!

You're so adorable when you're mad

The sad thing is that you must not know what a fascist Nazi is or you wouldn't be on here acting like a fascist Nazi with a dash of jingoism.

Once again, when all else fails and your opponent's logic cannot be contradicted, you resort to the chants of "racist" and "bigot". We've never seen that tactic before


Keep telling yourself that all i see is bigoted threads about Isreal and defending the nazi homeland Iran.

All i have seen is spreading hatred much like the video below



Run the Zionists are coming the Zionists are coming blah blah blah.

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reply posted on 13-2-2012 @ 06:37 PM by Corruption Exposed
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Keep telling yourself that all i see is bigoted threads about Isreal and defending the nazi homeland Iran.


Is this a bigoted thread defending the nazi homeland of Iran? I think you accidentally posted in the wrong forum because the title of the thread is "US Marines posed with Nazi symbol in Afghanistan".

At least you didn't call me a nazi fascist this time


reply posted on 13-2-2012 @ 06:39 PM by Qemyst
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I get what you're saying, but disagree, and here's why.

The symbol was used by the Nazis. It is also used by the Scout Snipers.

The swastika was used by the Nazis. It is also used in Buddhism, Hinduism, so on and so on.

The skull and crossbones was heavily used by the Nazis. It is also used today by the US military, it's on t-shirts and about a million other places.

The cross (yep, like the one used in religions) was heavily used by the Nazis. It's everywhere today. Why wasn't it too vilified like the "SS" shape, or the Swastika?

If you held up a card of a Swastika in front of a person (even a non 45 degree angled one), and asked them what it reminded them of, there's a pretty good chance they would say Nazis. Meanwhile, on the back of the card, out of sight of the viewer, the word "Eternity" could be written (or something else from another culture), which is what the Buddhists use the symbol to represent.

Now, It was that viewers own decision to associate the symbol with the Nazis. It was not the fault of the person showing them that symbol.

The same holds true with the SS. It stands for scout sniper in this case. If the viewer of that symbol chooses to associate it with Nazis, that's of their own doing.

The viewer of the symbol can immediately jump to the easiest conclusion, which is that a swastika (or the SS) is a Nazi symbol, or they can rationalize it (which I would be expecting more people in this day and age to do) and see the correlation between Scout Sniper and "SS". Lightning bolt shaped S's.. Lightning bolt = incredibly fast and sudden and out of nowhere... A shot from a sniper hitting you.. quick, abrupt.. out of nowhere.. like lightning..


Jumping immediately to silly conclusions is what led to the witch hunts.
"Our crops died, and the last person nearby was that woman! She's a witch!"

...Or, those people could have done their research, taken a little time to figure out why their crops dried, and probably came to a different, more reasonable conclusion. (assuming they were actually able to tell why crops died in a factual manner at that time.)

That's whats happening here.
"A SS IN THE SHAPE OF DOUBLE SIG RUNES! NAZI! KICK THEM OUT OF THE SERVICE SO THAT THEY LOSE THEIR LIVELIHOODS AND MAKE SURE THEY ARE PUBLICLY SHAMED!"

Now before anyone calls me on it, yes, i'm aware that the witch hunts are NOT the same thing as what is going on in this topic. So don't ask me why I call you illiterate if you DO call me on it.

The point i'm making is that people are immediately saying it's a Nazi symbol because it was at one time used by the Nazis. Just like the many people would immediately associate the swastika with Nazis because it was used by Nazis at one point. The fact is, the swastika is still used today in many cultures, and has nothing to do with Nazis. Just like the SS is used today by the Scout Snipers, and has nothing to do with the Nazis, and if people could try to understand WHY the scout snipers are using it, they might not have to make such a big deal about it.

I'm as offended by the Nazis and their ideals as the next guy, but I'm not offended by the symbols they used. Why others are, I can only guess.

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reply posted on 14-2-2012 @ 02:09 AM by McC556
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you are right well said i like the way you think


reply posted on 14-2-2012 @ 02:54 AM by Qemyst
Originally posted by oxykerfluffle
The SchutzStaffel were considered an elite unit of their day, and they committed atrocities and war crimes across Europe.


Fact.

Originally posted by oxykerfluffle
This unit took the imagery straight from the Nazi SchutzStaffel.


They used imagery that had at one time been used by the SchutzStaffel. It's the meaning of the image that matters in this case, and it more than likely simply meant Scout Sniper, and nothing more.

Originally posted by oxykerfluffle
The US should issue a serious apology for allowing their units to pose with such obviously racist symbolism. It's no wonder these same goons are committing war crimes in the Middle East.


I don't think they should have to. If they don't, they wouldn't be "wrong". If they choose to, then that's fine too.

As I said in another post, I hate Nazis and Nazi ideals as much as the next guy, but I think the people who are offended by it, however, are offended because they WANT to be, not because it comes natural to them. The Nazis have greatly affected my family, like many, but non are offended by any of it, because we would have to go out of our way to be offended by it. In other words, it would be a chore to be offended by it, and would simply make life harder to have something else to be offended by. They know the name of the base and the use of the Scout Sniper flag have nothing to do with the Nazis. That's why I think they couldn't care less. Some people just choose to go out of their way to be offended by these things.
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reply posted on 14-2-2012 @ 03:45 AM by sapien82
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those snipers represent the american military , and the american way of life , which is freedom and democracy and liberty to all.
The ss logo , represents everything that america stands against .
So why should they be allowed to use it in the military if its ideology is steeped in the hate which america is trying to remove from the world !

I think thats the point that is being brough up by the military command who have no since banned its use!

fair enough if they want to use it at home because they like the logo and the runes fine , but when its used
so blatantly in the military it should have been called out ages ago !
I think its only getting called now because of public knowledge or the rise in attention due to mass media !

Anyway why shouldnt the public be outraged they pay taxes to the american military and they are there displaying an Icon of the nazi SS .



reply posted on 14-2-2012 @ 06:31 AM by Corruption Exposed
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...however i bet half the people complaining about it wear a torture/execution device around their neck, or proudly display them in their home.


Good thing you're not in Vegas!


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