Whatever you wanna do, it's your right. Honestly I agree with you, if you don't trust who you're voting for don't vote. I don't like the whole "vote for the most favorable slimeball" tactic Americans have been doing the last 8+ years.
Top 10 reasons I will NOT vote for Ron Paul, page 2
reply posted on 9-2-2012 @ 07:42 AM by GogoVicMorrow
reply to post by Detour
Someone above me addressed them well. I would like to thank them for wasting their time so I didn't have to (seriously, thanks).
I read them all.. they are all b.s. and you actually didn't put hardly any real effort into it anyway. The third one you don't give any evidence outside of a picture. Then in your fourth point you show your lack of understanding for what a 1%er is. Someone with 5 million dollars in assets is not part of the one percent. If you can't even comprehend that it is pretty clear why you aren't voting for Ron Paul. His supporters tend to be a little more on top of things. Number 5.. is just ignorant, unless you think Alzheimer's goes into remission or can be cured, because there are a million video's since that one that show it's foolish. I can't believe you actually included that one, I'd be embarrassed. 6, the racist issue is wrong and has been discussed at length and has been as close to dis proven as something like that can be. Seven, I don't know, but I don't care because it bears no relevence (if you want to bark up that tree, no pun intended, look to the Bush's). 9, no he said he would if someone officially asked him to, there has been no request. I watched that debate. 10, not even a real point.
Someone above me addressed them well. I would like to thank them for wasting their time so I didn't have to (seriously, thanks).
I read them all.. they are all b.s. and you actually didn't put hardly any real effort into it anyway. The third one you don't give any evidence outside of a picture. Then in your fourth point you show your lack of understanding for what a 1%er is. Someone with 5 million dollars in assets is not part of the one percent. If you can't even comprehend that it is pretty clear why you aren't voting for Ron Paul. His supporters tend to be a little more on top of things. Number 5.. is just ignorant, unless you think Alzheimer's goes into remission or can be cured, because there are a million video's since that one that show it's foolish. I can't believe you actually included that one, I'd be embarrassed. 6, the racist issue is wrong and has been discussed at length and has been as close to dis proven as something like that can be. Seven, I don't know, but I don't care because it bears no relevence (if you want to bark up that tree, no pun intended, look to the Bush's). 9, no he said he would if someone officially asked him to, there has been no request. I watched that debate. 10, not even a real point.
reply posted on 9-2-2012 @ 08:02 AM by Detour
Originally posted by GogoVicMorrow
The third one you don't give any evidence outside of a picture.
fundrace.huffingtonpost.com...
satisfied ???
do you see the half million being diverted
to his TX House re-election now from his
presidential campaign ???
these people who donated thought
he was gonna use this for his presidential run,
not run for congress again ???
It was fraud IMO.
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reply posted on 9-2-2012 @ 08:03 AM by GogoVicMorrow
reply to post by Detour
Except this time we do have an option in Ron Paul, that "they" obviously don't want to be president.
The media and corporations are TPTB and they are blatantly against Paul. A vote for him isn't a vote for the lesser of the two evils (obviously as those two will be Romney and Obama). Don't complain about something and then shun your opportunity to do something about it when it presents itself to you.
Except this time we do have an option in Ron Paul, that "they" obviously don't want to be president.
The media and corporations are TPTB and they are blatantly against Paul. A vote for him isn't a vote for the lesser of the two evils (obviously as those two will be Romney and Obama). Don't complain about something and then shun your opportunity to do something about it when it presents itself to you.
reply posted on 9-2-2012 @ 08:12 AM by GogoVicMorrow
reply to post by Detour
Changed my post, because I looked at the wrong page. Either way, we don't know that it is fraud, because we don't know if permission was sought, or if the money was used on his reelection to congress or used for his next presidential run. So neither you nor I can say it is fraud. So don't try to pass it off as a sure thing when you have no idea.
Also, it's funny that you got onto me for only addressing one point and then you did the exact same thing.
You don't have to vote for him, but don't use MSM propaganda techniques and complete b.s. to lie to others about him.
Changed my post, because I looked at the wrong page. Either way, we don't know that it is fraud, because we don't know if permission was sought, or if the money was used on his reelection to congress or used for his next presidential run. So neither you nor I can say it is fraud. So don't try to pass it off as a sure thing when you have no idea.
Also, it's funny that you got onto me for only addressing one point and then you did the exact same thing.
You don't have to vote for him, but don't use MSM propaganda techniques and complete b.s. to lie to others about him.
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reply posted on 9-2-2012 @ 08:14 AM by Detour
Originally posted by GogoVicMorrow
A vote for him isn't a vote for the lesser of the two evils
not true
shall I remind you of Operation Blitzkrieg
and Paul's relationship with A3P ???
www.abovetopsecret.com...
reply posted on 9-2-2012 @ 08:19 AM by GogoVicMorrow
reply to post by Detour
You mean when anonymous people, made accusations out of context. Yeah I remember. I also know why the story was never picked up by the msm or other candidates campaigns, because it was useless. As I said in the same thread about that, Rosalynne Carter talked met a serial killer and had her picture taken with him, out of context you could spin that a lot of ways, in context it was just a photo op.
You mean when anonymous people, made accusations out of context. Yeah I remember. I also know why the story was never picked up by the msm or other candidates campaigns, because it was useless. As I said in the same thread about that, Rosalynne Carter talked met a serial killer and had her picture taken with him, out of context you could spin that a lot of ways, in context it was just a photo op.
reply posted on 9-2-2012 @ 08:22 AM by Detour
Originally posted by GogoVicMorrow
reply to post by Detour
You mean when anonymous people, made accusations out of context. Yeah I remember. I also know why the story was never picked up by the msm or other candidates campaigns, because it was useless. As I said in the same thread about that, Rosalynne Carter talked met a serial killer and had her picture taken with him, out of context you could spin that a lot of ways, in context it was just a photo op.
enjoy your Nazi President !!!
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reply posted on 9-2-2012 @ 08:26 AM by GogoVicMorrow
reply to post by Detour
No.. I changed it because I just saw that it said zero dollars from that zip, then I scrolled down and saw what you were talking about.
It's 500,000 dollars, do you know how much his PCC raised?
Here
So, how can you say that that 500,000 wasn't a single donation, or 5 large donations that only required a few phone calls to determine whether it was ok to use on his re-election. Considering he raised around 27,000,000 that year I would say that's a pretty small amount.
You are shouting fraud without any facts, which sets you up to look foolish. If this were a problem, trust me, you wouldn't be the first one to find it. Find me an article on it please. Something that shows it might be fraud (you can't, because it isn't).
No.. I changed it because I just saw that it said zero dollars from that zip, then I scrolled down and saw what you were talking about.
It's 500,000 dollars, do you know how much his PCC raised?
Here
So, how can you say that that 500,000 wasn't a single donation, or 5 large donations that only required a few phone calls to determine whether it was ok to use on his re-election. Considering he raised around 27,000,000 that year I would say that's a pretty small amount.
You are shouting fraud without any facts, which sets you up to look foolish. If this were a problem, trust me, you wouldn't be the first one to find it. Find me an article on it please. Something that shows it might be fraud (you can't, because it isn't).
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reply posted on 9-2-2012 @ 08:28 AM by FlyersFan
The ONE big reason not to vote for Ron Paul ... his age. Sorry, but it's true. The rigors of the office are crushing on even the youngest and most
healthy. Ron Paul will be 77. He'll be in his 80s if he survives the first term. If someone votes for Ron Paul, they'd best be taking a long hard
look at whoever is vice POTUS because chances are THAT is who will be taking over rather quickly.
As Detour said ... I probably won't be voting this election either. Nobody worth voting for.
That being said ....
Obama, Newt and Mitt are all liars as well. So if he is a liar, he fits in with the rest.
Obama bamboozled America into voting for him. Looks like he might do it again.
I don't think your example fits the 'campaign fund fraud' criteria. However, Looks like Obama might have accepted campaign $$ from foreign nationals - which does cross the line.
Being sucessful isn't anything to apologize for.
Oh ... and that 'we represent the 99%' bunk of the OWS has gone the way of the dodo bird.
Does Obama have Alzheimers too?
Afterall .. he said there were 57 states and he said 'my muslim faith' etc etc
Already debunked. He's not racist. He didn't want the MLK holiday to be a paid federal holiday because he doesn't want most of them to be paid federal holidays. It's a money thing .. not a race thing. Obama on the other hand, and his 20 years in that anti-white black liberation theology cult ... THAT is racist.
??? So what? that's Irrelevant. BTW ... Obama's place of birth is questionable.
Obama takes financial support from Wall Street among many others. Newt took lobby money.
I'm not seeing it. However, Obama has broken a whole slew of them ... biggest one to me is the 'no lobbiest will find a job in my adminisration'. Yeah right. It's LOADED with them! Oh .. and ditto Newt. Major broken promises.
Not nearly as much as Obama and Newt and Mitt.
As Detour said ... I probably won't be voting this election either. Nobody worth voting for.
That being said ....
Originally posted by Detour
Liar
Obama, Newt and Mitt are all liars as well. So if he is a liar, he fits in with the rest.
Con Artist
Obama bamboozled America into voting for him. Looks like he might do it again.
Campaign Fund fraud
I don't think your example fits the 'campaign fund fraud' criteria. However, Looks like Obama might have accepted campaign $$ from foreign nationals - which does cross the line.
4) Net Worth $5M+ a 1%er
Being sucessful isn't anything to apologize for.
Oh ... and that 'we represent the 99%' bunk of the OWS has gone the way of the dodo bird.
5) Alzheimer's Disease
Does Obama have Alzheimers too?
Afterall .. he said there were 57 states and he said 'my muslim faith' etc etc
6) Racist
Already debunked. He's not racist. He didn't want the MLK holiday to be a paid federal holiday because he doesn't want most of them to be paid federal holidays. It's a money thing .. not a race thing. Obama on the other hand, and his 20 years in that anti-white black liberation theology cult ... THAT is racist.
7) Family Tree questionable
??? So what? that's Irrelevant. BTW ... Obama's place of birth is questionable.
8) Financial support $900K from Bildeberger Peter Theil
Obama takes financial support from Wall Street among many others. Newt took lobby money. 9) Broken Promises
I'm not seeing it. However, Obama has broken a whole slew of them ... biggest one to me is the 'no lobbiest will find a job in my adminisration'.
Yeah right. It's LOADED with them! Oh .. and ditto Newt. Major broken promises. 10) Broken Trust
Not nearly as much as Obama and Newt and Mitt.
reply posted on 9-2-2012 @ 08:29 AM by GogoVicMorrow
reply to post by Detour
I already had one for 8 years. I look forward to finally not having one.
LOL, at you being a complete tool, you make these giant leaps of your own faith. Both on the contribution and on his family tree. You see something, and instead of having facts you draw these conclusions out of thing air with no basis in reality and parade them around as facts. Do you really not see that you are doing that?
I already had one for 8 years. I look forward to finally not having one.
LOL, at you being a complete tool, you make these giant leaps of your own faith. Both on the contribution and on his family tree. You see something, and instead of having facts you draw these conclusions out of thing air with no basis in reality and parade them around as facts. Do you really not see that you are doing that?
reply posted on 9-2-2012 @ 08:31 AM by GogoVicMorrow
reply to post by FlyersFan
Eh.. Bush almost choked on a pretzel, they are all always just a heartbeat away. People said the same thing with McCain. He's still here. This is actually not a valid reason, as president's generally don't just die. I mean.. Cheney runs on battery's now. Paul is healthy, he will probably live into his 90's.
Either way I trust him to pick a decent vice.
Eh.. Bush almost choked on a pretzel, they are all always just a heartbeat away. People said the same thing with McCain. He's still here. This is actually not a valid reason, as president's generally don't just die. I mean.. Cheney runs on battery's now. Paul is healthy, he will probably live into his 90's.
Either way I trust him to pick a decent vice.
reply posted on 9-2-2012 @ 08:34 AM by Detour
Originally posted by GogoVicMorrow
It's 500,000 dollars, do you know how much his PCC raised?
Here
So, how can you say that that 500,000 wasn't a single donation, or 5 large donations that only required a few phone calls to determine whether it was ok to use on his re-election. Considering he raised around 27,000,000 that year I would say that's a pretty small amount.
you are comparing apples to oranges.
you quote a link to a graph from 2007
when the transfer of funds was in 2010.
reply posted on 9-2-2012 @ 08:36 AM by GogoVicMorrow
reply to post by illuminatislave
They have no merit. If someone got on your account here and posted under your name racist posts it would make you no more a racist than Ron Paul. Thing is you aren't as successful and don't have as many "friends" that could potentially screw you over.
They have no merit. If someone got on your account here and posted under your name racist posts it would make you no more a racist than Ron Paul. Thing is you aren't as successful and don't have as many "friends" that could potentially screw you over.
reply posted on 9-2-2012 @ 08:36 AM by illuminatislave
reply to post by Question Fate
exactly. Anyone who dares says to me "well, who else are you going to vote for" runs the risk of being called a moron right to their damn face.
I refuse to vote or support scum. Anyone that sits here and votes in these fraudulent elections is a fool!!!
exactly. Anyone who dares says to me "well, who else are you going to vote for" runs the risk of being called a moron right to their damn face.
I refuse to vote or support scum. Anyone that sits here and votes in these fraudulent elections is a fool!!!
reply posted on 9-2-2012 @ 08:38 AM by illuminatislave
reply to post by GogoVicMorrow
What I've read says otherwise.
Until you are willing to sit here and post legitimate facts that disprove the claims, you are wasting everyone's time.
Paul is not a god. He is not a messiah. He is an old man that panders to racist scum
What I've read says otherwise.
Until you are willing to sit here and post legitimate facts that disprove the claims, you are wasting everyone's time.
Paul is not a god. He is not a messiah. He is an old man that panders to racist scum
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reply posted on 9-2-2012 @ 08:38 AM by GogoVicMorrow
reply to post by Detour
When do you think his PCC was? Hmm? It's the same money guy, use your head. He transferred the money from his presidential run, 2 years after it was over. So it's really not relevant. Maybe 500,000 was all that was left after his run?
You actually just pointed out more of your lack of understanding and why this is a non issue.
When do you think his PCC was? Hmm? It's the same money guy, use your head. He transferred the money from his presidential run, 2 years after it was over. So it's really not relevant. Maybe 500,000 was all that was left after his run?
You actually just pointed out more of your lack of understanding and why this is a non issue.
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