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News Blackout in the UK - why

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posted on Feb, 10 2012 @ 06:45 AM
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Originally posted by woogleuk
reply to post by lacrimaererum
 


11 of the 47 men arrested in "Operation Matrix" were on trial, the police warned media outlets to be quiet so as not to upset the community, however, Manchester Evening News ran the story, despite the warnings.
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have you any source for this?




posted on Feb, 10 2012 @ 06:47 AM
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Yes, I do.............

casualsunited.wordpress.com...
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posted on Feb, 10 2012 @ 06:51 AM
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would you like to share that with us?



posted on Feb, 10 2012 @ 07:27 AM
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your using a right wing blog as a source.

bye now.


this is your source ;


We are opposed to the Islamification of Britain, our spineless corrupt Government, Human Rights law, which is only for paedophiles, child killers and terrorists, our chaotic immigration system which allows all sorts of killers and scum invade us and take the piss out of the British people, and the European Union which is simply turning Europe into a communist dictatorship where we cant control our own borders or enforce our own laws.

casualsunited.wordpress.com...

disgusting.

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posted on Feb, 10 2012 @ 07:32 AM
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I don't read right wing rubbish, I found that source by Googling to help this thread.

And why that?

Because it is one of the only sources because of the media blackout?

This is why I hesitated posting the link, because people like you won't accept anything that doesn't fall into your standards of credible sources, not every fact has to be printed in the MSM to be true.

Quite frankly, your attitude disgusts me.

I suppose this is too right wing for you:

www.newenglishreview.org...

or this:

menmedia.co.uk...

Grow up and learn some manners, it will go far here on ATS.
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posted on Feb, 10 2012 @ 07:44 AM
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Heya Woogle, usual reporting restrictions are in place but, other than the supposed religion of the accused, what makes you believe the Rochdale case is being reported any differently to other recent cases of alleged sexual abuse?

As far as I can tell, the MSM has reported the dates and proceedings of the remand and bail hearings and will report the trial proceedings...Both Sky news and the BBC were present at Liverpool Crown Court for example.



posted on Feb, 10 2012 @ 07:54 AM
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I don't believe anything mate, I just did a bit of searching to see if I could find anything to help this thread.

Ok, the only sources for this recent development are from right wing areas, but still sources/accounts nonetheless, I can however believe that media outlets have been told to dumb it down given the sensitivity of it so as not to provoke anger in the communities.
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posted on Feb, 10 2012 @ 07:57 AM
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So you dismiss something as a source simply because they are allegedly right-wing?
Would you be equally dismissive if it was a left-wing source?
And just because it is a right-wing source does it mean that it's automatically incorrect or inaccurate?

I have no particular axe to grind here, just seeking to understand.



posted on Feb, 10 2012 @ 08:14 AM
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I can however believe that media outlets have been told to dumb it down given the sensitivity of it so as not to provoke anger in the communities.

Not a lot to report pre trial and for good reason (I know you aware of those reasons bud), tho I dont believe any of those reasons to be community harmony.

The MSM have been reporting this case in the usual way imho.







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posted on Feb, 10 2012 @ 08:18 AM
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Originally posted by lacrimaererum
reply to post by Rafe_
 


this has nothig to do with being proven right.

i merely despise people being mislead. the title of this thread is regarding a media blackout. there clearly is not a media blackout. that is what this thread is about.

now. what exactly would you like me to address sir.


To know what i would like you to address you only need to read my post to which i referred.

The only thing and i repeat , The only thing you have addressed in the topic is how there was not a media blackout and that there were not 47 men but ONLY 11 men.

It is of course a fact that 11 men are being taken to court. This still does not mean that there were not more involved or investigated as is usual in cases with organized criminal activities. A lot of people get to walk away from it for numerous reasons. May that be innocents or technicalities or just not having enough evidence to arrest the guilty.

Would you not agree?

As i mentioned this case concerns a organized group but these men were not just selling and buying marijuana. They were raping children and tbh i have not once see you bother to address this issue.

Thus it is quite apparent that you have a personal issue and worry namely , the "muslim bashing" .
It is simply not what this is about.

Answer me this, What does it matter wether this is about 47 men raping children or 11 ? I mean sure, Let there be a mention of it if there is reason to believe that this may or may not be correct ( i will leave this in the middle for now) but in the end is that what this is about or is it about groups of men systematicly targeting and raping children?


138 people went out on the street over this.
10K people went out on the street against Christian priests.

And why wouldn't they.






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posted on Feb, 10 2012 @ 08:32 AM
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From what I can gather from the little snippets here and there, the 11 at trial are from that area, the rest of the "47" are from other areas.



posted on Feb, 10 2012 @ 08:51 AM
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Being someone who's pretty dismissive of groups like the EDL (I just don't have time for these sort of conformist groups). I have to concede that there is something to what they're posting.
There is a suppression in the media of these sorts of crimes and a reluctance on the part of government agencies to tackle them for what they are. (racially motivated).

I don't think that the disparity between the way white on black crime is reported versus black on white crime is, is because of some nefarious plan, rather a realisation by the authorities that white on black may be more widespread than the other if they don't act in the way they have been and that dealing with it another way may cause more inter cultural trouble. Doesn't make it right doesn't mean I agree with it.

Edited to add this link from 2004 news.bbc.co.uk...
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posted on Feb, 10 2012 @ 09:05 AM
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Different parts of the world have different cultures.

This one is sick but here is your proof. Because the opening paragraphs are so sick and controversial I am only giving a title and link.

Keep in mind you can never say "everyone" in this particular group does this, you must always judge someone on a individual basis.

Afghanistan's dirty little secret: www.sfgate.com.../c/a/2010/08/28/INF21F2Q9H.DTL

Some Afghan Men Form Sexual Relationships With Young Boys: www.care2.com...

Uncovering the world of "bacha bazi" (video, I can't watch it): www.pbs.org...

Gay Afghanistan, After the Taliban. Homosexuality as Tradition: www.globalgayz.com...

What occurs between two consenting adults that hopefully have a loving relationship is one thing and nobody's business but selling a child into slavery is wrong.

Now keep in mind, many young girls are raped in Africa and selling into sexual slavery is very common for girls in India.

No child should have to endure this.

Hell, I don't even consider owning my dog...........that denotes slavery.





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posted on Feb, 10 2012 @ 09:15 AM
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Combined Ex-Forces.



posted on Feb, 10 2012 @ 09:45 AM
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Colour and creed don't matter for the purposes of justice.

For the purposes of knowing what certain groups are doing and doing it based on some fraternity....IT MATTERS.

You want to promote hate? Let this stuff happen and pretend that legitimate information doesn't matter.

One of the most vehement racists I know is a lady who was taken by a gang of "South Asians" and sold out of a pizza shop to the men in their community for sex until she was saved by the police. To be used all day by men of that community on a disgusting mattress on the floor. You want to promote hate? You let it keep happening, and I promise you'll see the most angry throbbing despise that'll rip your country apart.
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posted on Feb, 10 2012 @ 09:52 AM
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what news blackout ??? national newspaper coverage



posted on Feb, 10 2012 @ 09:58 AM
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Originally posted by Rafe_

The only thing and i repeat , The only thing you have addressed in the topic is how there was not a media blackout and that there were not 47 men but ONLY 11 men.


I have addressed these issues because these are the points that the OP was raising. This is the core details of what the OP presented.

THe OP made a point of stating ;


In the UK there is currently a trial of 47 ALLEGED paedophiles going on in Liverpool. These ALLEGED paedophiles are all Muslim.

There is a news blackout in place.

Some patriotic groups such as the BNP and the EDL have organised street demonstrations, which means that the only reporting of this trial tends to be on far-right websites. (and therefore I have refrained from posting the links on this forum).

There has been a police operation which has brough 47 suspects to trial for what is to most people an appauling offence - paedophilia.

Why is this trial (which is surely of public interest) not only being ignored, but BLOCKED by mainstream media?


THe opening post is completely misguided. There is not 47 men on trial. There is 11.
There is not a media blackout. There is a large number of stories on this investigation.
If these men are found guilty there pictures will be all over the press when the case is completed.



It is of course a fact that 11 men are being taken to court. This still does not mean that there were not more involved or investigated as is usual in cases with organized criminal activities. A lot of people get to walk away from it for numerous reasons. May that be innocents or technicalities or just not having enough evidence to arrest the guilty.

Would you not agree?
I believe that law enforcement usually go in heavy handed and grab as many people as possible. They then see how many people they can get charges on.


As i mentioned this case concerns a organized group but these men were not just selling and buying marijuana. They were raping children and tbh i have not once see you bother to address this issue.


i know it has been alleged they have committed sex crimes.

why have you so blunty stated they raped children?

what do you know that the rest of us dont? its stupid bloody commentary like that can get courts cases thrown out. this clearly displays how ignorant you are.


Thus it is quite apparent that you have a personal issue and worry namely , the "muslim bashing" .
It is simply not what this is about.

Answer me this, What does it matter wether this is about 47 men raping children or 11 ? I mean sure, Let there be a mention of it if there is reason to believe that this may or may not be correct ( i will leave this in the middle for now) but in the end is that what this is about or is it about groups of men systematicly targeting and raping children?


I came onto this thread and seen the OP referring to the BNP and EDL as patriotic folk and made a point that these people on trial were muslim. I find the BNP and EDL to be disgusting. There were other posts abusing muslims and a very serious allegation made regarding the muslim religion. That is why I consider it to be muslim bashing.

You are talking about a legal court case concerning alleged sex crimes and you don't think its important to report the correct number of people involved? Again you are portraying how ignorant you are.


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posted on Feb, 10 2012 @ 10:03 AM
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what the is a racial organisation?



posted on Feb, 10 2012 @ 10:09 AM
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I can post links too:
From the Lancashire Telegraph, Wedsneday 12 January, 2011

80% of Operation Engage offenders white

OPERATION Engage was set up by police in 2006 after the problem of predominantly-Asian gangs preying on vulnerable white girls. But since 2008 Engage has grown to investigate, and protect, those vulnerable to all kinds of sex grooming. This is borne out by the fact that as many as 80per cent of all offenders dealt with under Engage are now white.

Source: www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk...

The police and social services are aware and attempting to deal with child grooming....the MSM do report the cases.
Why is the OP only interested in cases where the accused are non white? The bnpedl completly ignored the recent case involving a white Catholic Priest and when child pornography charges were aimed at one of their own, claimed he was a political prisoner...He pleaded guilty btw.

Double standards or a (not so) hidden agenda.

If you want the uk sub judice/ contempt of court rules removed then have the debate...just not outside a Court where a grooming case is under active consideration.







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posted on Feb, 10 2012 @ 10:36 AM
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Originally posted by lacrimaererum
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what the is a racial organisation?


Verbal skills aren't universally equal. I think a look of doubt crosses his face as he says "racial". I would guess asking him for an explanation would turn up other 'incorrect' speech.
I assume there have been allegations of racial prejudice levelled against his organisation. That's probably what he's referring to.
Being fair to me, I've just linked to a video asking for a presence outside the court. This is very common here, only a few months ago a local grandmother and other neighbours of mine did a similar vigil for a similar reason. The details of that case would turn your stomach.
The simple answer to your question is ask him. Do you have a youtube account? They're very easy to set up and have a personal message service similar to ATS.



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