posted on Feb, 9 2012 @ 07:04 PM
I think there may actually be a bit of a conspiracy here with this whole "I just don't want them to use the term 'marriage'" thing - let me
explain. I currently live in Spain, and a few years ago, in 2005 to be exact, they finally legalized gay marriage here (hard to believe Spain is more
morally advanced in this aspect then the US, eh?). I don't remember when it started exactly, but sometime in the year or so leading up to that there
started to be talk, mostly from right-leaning conservative types, but not exclusively, about them only really having a problem with the term
"matrimonio", which is of course literally the translation of "marriage" in Spanish. Other than that, they said, there was no problem, just the
term, same as the OP stated here in this thread repeatedly.
Anyway, many people here on this thread have pointed to the basic ridiculousness of this premise, and it is ridiculous, for many reasons:
1. As someone said a few posts back, since when does anyone, with the exclusion of grammaticians and suchlike, give a crap about the misuse of a
word??!! We screw up words and definitions ALL THE TIME and nobody cares.
2. I've yet to see any kind of proof that the term marriage, or matrimonio, or whatever it's called in the rest of the western countries, is
defined anywhere important as being necessarily between man and woman. The bible isn't a legally binding document anywhere in N.A. or Europe. If
the bible invented the word (and that's gonna be a tough argument to prove for anyone whose native language isn't Aramaic or Hebrew...), show me the
proof that they invented it - and patented it. It sounds silly just asking for that, lol.
3. Dogs?! Dead people? Toasters?!!! I mean really....anyway, other posters have already shown that contractually they make no sense, apples and
oranges, people, as they say....if people are apples, then dogs are oranges for example, and let's say women can be Golden Delicious apples and men
can be Granny Smiths....still apples, still same species, I really can't believe anyone argues this lol. - and I "lol" with all due respect to
your entitled opinion!
4. I could go on, but I'll get to the point about the possible conspiracy I see with this "marriage" term debate, which I've now personally
experienced, word for word, in 5 different countries and three different languages (Canada, US, England, Spain and France, in English, French and
Spanish), the EXACT SAME argument - and THAT is the conspiracy. It IS a silly argument, no matter how you look at it. I could think of several other
arguments that would be more convincing and even slightly more reasonable, but that's exactly the point - all of a sudden we're spending all our
time debating whether gay couples who tie the knot should be allowed to call their union a marriage! WhoTF cares!? That was not what they asked for,
they were asking for equal civil rights, which happens to imply that they'd need to use a word from the dictionary to define the thing they wanted
their civil rights for, and that word is of course "marriage". And if it's called GAY-marriage, that's adding a prefix to the word, it's already
saying that it's not the exact same thing anyway...but I digress...
I guess the point I want to make is that this same argument is being used in diverse countries around the world (or the western world anyway as far as
I've seen), despite the fact that anyone can see it's not even the right argument to use (not that I think there is a "right" argument
personally...so....Who exactly has instilled this idea into people of a certain persuasion's heads? And in quite a few different countries to boot!?
Maybe it's something as simple as the Vatican, I dunno, whoever it is, it's obviously a concerted effort to distract from the true discussion at
hand, forcing us to talk about something else only partially related to the true topic, which is quite clearly simply a question of civil liberties,
and certainly not semantics, I don't think the gays had any interest in a semantic or etymological discussion.
Hope that all made sense, I've had a couple tonight, hehe,