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Originally posted by MathiasAndrew
reply to post by knoledgeispower
You really need to educate yourself
Chaz Bono was NOT a child when she decided to have a sex change
Chaz Bono, Cheryl Kilodavis, Author of My Princess Boy, to Appear at Groundbreaking Conference for Families of Transgender Children August 5-7, 2011
The Gender Odyssey Family conference is pleased to welcome Chaz Bono and Cheryl Kilodavis as this year’s featured keynote speakers. Chaz and Cheryl will be profiling their best-selling books, "Transition" and "My Princess Boy," respectively.
The Gender Odyssey Family Conference, the first family-centered event for people raising transgender and gender non-conforming children and teens, returns for the its fourth annual meeting at the Washington State Convention Center, August 5-7th, 2011. www.prweb.com...
Originally posted by HandyDandy
Originally posted by ignant
Yes, it is biases by homophobic views, but I am convinced it's conclusions aren't far off.
So you trust a biased study that reinforces your viewpoint, but if I post a study that refutes this study, I guarantee you'll claim bias.
edit on 9-2-2012 by HandyDandy because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by MathiasAndrew
reply to post by knoledgeispower
None of the quotes you used in your post were from me.
Typical dirty manipulative tactics from someone who is ignorant and losing the debate
You're really asking for it.edit on 10-2-2012 by MathiasAndrew because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by MathiasAndrew
I have had at least 10 posts removed in this thread alone by the MODS. Total BS, at the most 2 of them were justified.
I'm post banning myself.
F @# YOU ATS
I have been a contributing member of this site for over a year.
I'm sick of the MODS playing favorites, deleting posts and leaving others that are far more offensive and off topic.
I refuse to comment on this website anymore until the MODS take their heads out of their a@@edit on 10-2-2012 by MathiasAndrew because: (no reason given)
you've long ago lost it when all you do is hate on one group who is different then you.
Marriage is a term that should be reserved for a man and a woman. If gays want to call it domestic partners or any other name and it gives them the same rights as married couples I'm OK with that. I just disagree with them stealing the term marriage.
The issues usually arise when one of the gay partners is either sick or dying and also if they have children. Before gay marriage was legal only spouses or family could make decisions regarding certain legal matters.
A gay partner could be denied visitation in the hospital or be denied the right to take over parental rights of a dying partners children. If no Will exists assets would go to immediate family members and not the gay partner.
I am not "pro gay rights" nor am I "anti gay rights".
I really don't care what you do behind closed doors as long as you keep it there. But when you want to try to shove it in my face is when I say , no that's not OK.
Only issue i have is with the terminology. The title, the label.
Marriage = man + woman
I'm not a religious person. However I do think that religion deserves some respect in certain aspects of society.
Marriage was developed through the church and was a religious ceremony.
same sex couples = domestic partnership = same rights as married couples
Just don't call it marriage = nothing anti gay about it
I just find it funny that a gay couple who has known each other for 40 years. Been a couple for 18 years and were the "poster couple" for gay marriage. They didn't even last more than 4 years as a married couple.
I understand that there are certain legal issues that are important when it comes to couples who are "married" or in a "domestic partnership".
To me it feels like the gay community is showing a lack of respect for the rest of society, the straight community and the religious community by demanding that their "domestic partner" relationship be called marriage. It seems hypocritical to me for them to want respect by disrespecting the title of marriage
By the way, it's not just gays who are disrespecting the title of marriage. Everyone of those people in the above videos I posted are also disrepecting the title of marriage. I disagree with all of those examples just as much. Probably more. All I ask is that the gays leave the term "marriage" alone.
What I find most concerning and repulsive is that when I state that GAYS SHOULD BE GIVEN THE SAME RIGHTS as other couples. But just don't call it marriage, call it domestic partners or civil unions.
All the creeps put down their poppers and come crawling out of their dungeons wearing their gimp suits and start acting like I just declared open hunting season on the entire gay community and culture.
Self-inflicted-post-ban fail!
Originally posted by MathiasAndrew
reply to post by knoledgeispower
you've long ago lost it when all you do is hate on one group who is different then you.
I didn't hate on anyone. You're really showing your ignorance.
THESE ARE MY QUOTES
Marriage is a term that should be reserved for a man and a woman. If gays want to call it domestic partners or any other name and it gives them the same rights as married couples I'm OK with that. I just disagree with them stealing the term marriage.
The issues usually arise when one of the gay partners is either sick or dying and also if they have children. Before gay marriage was legal only spouses or family could make decisions regarding certain legal matters.
A gay partner could be denied visitation in the hospital or be denied the right to take over parental rights of a dying partners children. If no Will exists assets would go to immediate family members and not the gay partner.
I am not "pro gay rights" nor am I "anti gay rights".
I really don't care what you do behind closed doors as long as you keep it there. But when you want to try to shove it in my face is when I say , no that's not OK.
Only issue i have is with the terminology. The title, the label.
Marriage = man + woman
I'm not a religious person. However I do think that religion deserves some respect in certain aspects of society.
Marriage was developed through the church and was a religious ceremony.
same sex couples = domestic partnership = same rights as married couples
Just don't call it marriage = nothing anti gay about it
I just find it funny that a gay couple who has known each other for 40 years. Been a couple for 18 years and were the "poster couple" for gay marriage. They didn't even last more than 4 years as a married couple.
I understand that there are certain legal issues that are important when it comes to couples who are "married" or in a "domestic partnership".
To me it feels like the gay community is showing a lack of respect for the rest of society, the straight community and the religious community by demanding that their "domestic partner" relationship be called marriage. It seems hypocritical to me for them to want respect by disrespecting the title of marriage
By the way, it's not just gays who are disrespecting the title of marriage. Everyone of those people in the above videos I posted are also disrepecting the title of marriage. I disagree with all of those examples just as much. Probably more. All I ask is that the gays leave the term "marriage" alone.
What I find most concerning and repulsive is that when I state that GAYS SHOULD BE GIVEN THE SAME RIGHTS as other couples. But just don't call it marriage, call it domestic partners or civil unions.
All the creeps put down their poppers and come crawling out of their dungeons wearing their gimp suits and start acting like I just declared open hunting season on the entire gay community and culture.
Yeah, I'm spreading lots of hate OK
Trying to be one those creeps I was talking about are you?
Originally posted by MathiasAndrew
reply to post by knoledgeispower
I asked this question earlier in thread. Maybe you would like to respond to it.
Suppose I wanted to create a new holiday. A holiday where I worship satan. I decided I want my new holiday to be named Christmas. Do you think I'm being disrespectful to other people?
Originally posted by zeeon
Listen - Marriage is not a Right. Contrary to what you people think, the Constitution does not specifically grant us the right to marriage. It does not grant it to straight people, gay people, dogs, animals, birds, bee's, or anything else.
I am opposed to gay couples calling their union "Marriage". It's not. There was a time in the country where oh gee - you could have a ceremony and the priest would wed the couple. No state, no licenses - nothing.
This is it how it should be for straight people, gay people and everyone else.
I think the better solution here is to remove the State from our society - not integrate it with more laws telling us how to live our lives. That's all I'm saying.
Our Government is to enforce the Rights of the people and just Laws. Not rule our society.
Always amazes me that you regularly worship government as your God and holy religion.
Originally posted by Annee
When Marriage became a legal secular government contract - - to protect rights an property of those joining together as one family - - - it lost any special right to be exclusively religious.
Sure you can get married in a church - - but it doesn't count legally.
Always amazes me the fight against interracial and gay marriage - - - but not a peep about Atheists marrying.
Originally posted by seachange
Originally posted by Annee
When Marriage became a legal secular government contract - - to protect rights an property of those joining together as one family - - - it lost any special right to be exclusively religious.
Sure you can get married in a church - - but it doesn't count legally.
Always amazes me the fight against interracial and gay marriage - - - but not a peep about Atheists marrying.
Always amazes me that you regularly worship government as your God and holy religion.
No, Annee. No. Marriage became an ILLEGAL government contract because it is unconstitutional to have to have a system where you pay money for rights and privileges that other people don't have.
I feel kind of sorry for you Mathias. You must have some real problems with people when you go to such lengths to attempt to control what a small population of individuals does with their bodies or their loved ones. I've known plenty of your type. None of them have any sense of inner peace.