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The Devil's Chord: The conspiracy to open the portal of consciousness and mystery of the octave

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posted on Feb, 10 2012 @ 02:09 AM

Originally posted by sled735
I admit I have no formal training in what is being discussed here, so I don't understand a lot of what is being posted. But, I have noticed all my life how different types of music affect me. I can be feeling depressed and put on some lively music, and my spirit is lifted out of the depression immediately. Or, if I need to relax I play a soothing type of music. I know that there are certain types of music that will help one reach higher levels of vibration in their spirit. I can't really contribute to this thread other than to say I have always been aware of how my mood is affected at a very deep level by my choice of music. I think it is the universal language.

Right I mentioned Dr. Victor Grauer's book -- I gave the link to it -- on the spread of the Bushmen music culture and it's based on this secret of the Perfect Fifth/Fourth as complementary opposites:

Closely related types of instrumental hocket, similar to that of the pipe, flute,
whistle, horn and percussion ensembles of Africa, have also been found in
roughly the same regions, among indigenous peoples of New Guinea, the
Solomon Islands, Indonesia (Flores, Bali, Java, among others), the Philippines,
Vietnam, and certain other enclaves in Southeast Asia, and China. We find
somewhat similar practices, both instrumental and vocal, in certain villages in
Russia and other parts of Europe, both East and West, and also the Andes and
other regions of Central and South America. In some cases we hear vocalinstrumental
interactions of a very similar type....
While the Chinese myth places the Yellow Emperor and the Yellow Bell well back
into a vaguely defined “olden times,” when China itself was being established as a state, according to my version of the myth tuned pipes originated at a much earlier time, before modern humans voyaged out of Africa -- and well before that, to the time before humans learned to speak to one another. And despite all the many tens of thousands of years from that primeval time to this, we still find ensembles of pipes and panpipes, still cut from lengths of cane, still tuned, in a great many cases (though not all), more or less according to the system described in the story of the Yellow Bell, based on the simple whole number ratios, 2/3 and 4/3. Remarkably, we still find, all over the world, musical traditions, both instrumental and vocal, based, more or less, on those exact same ratios.1 And just as the Yellow Bell became the foundation of so much that was central to Chinese civilization, so did the ratios long ago established in the “law of pipes” become the foundation of so much of importance in other civilizations, as, for example, in the pioneering mathematics and physics of the ancient Greeks, where the exact same ratios were “discovered” by Pythagoras.

Victor Grauer, “Chapter Nine: The Migration,” and “Chapter Eighteen: The Legacy,” Sounding the
Depths: Tradition and the Voices of History, 2011.

posted on Feb, 10 2012 @ 05:50 AM

Originally posted by jude11
I have to ask if you are referring to the Devil's Chords used by Black Sabbath:

These 3 notes have been long believed to be the power behind Sabbath and although that is not your thread meaning and not something I hold to, it is interesting that someone mentioned here that the 3 notes are not used in Popular music.

I was about to post this very same video ^.^

fulllotusqigong: To start up with, thanks for this thread!
As a paranoid/conspiracy theorist: I disagree with your statement of this being the ultimate goal of freemasonry, but that's just because I don't think freemasonry is a means to an end but an end itself, a properly working system. But I do agree that there's some juicy stuff in here, made me think of the Giza Pyramid and it's resonation chambers. Also, I don't think this resonation would actually OPEN a portal (not trying to debunk it though, because it would be awesome to have an actual portal), but granting access to "altered" states of mind (since you are speaking about consciousness these portals might be the same thing expressed in different ways).
As a musician and music university student: First of all, I'm a drummer, so I don't really think much about the relation between notes, but I do understand it (I go to college for it after all). But there are a couple of things you state which really intrigue me but I don't fully understand.
A) It's true that using logarithmic maths a perfect 5th would be a perfect circle, but what do you mean when you say this is false and that it's all about asymmetry and complementary opposites? Also, harmonics happen (on a guitar for example) when you press the chord right in the middle of it's length or somewhere according to the "golden ratio".
B) How is the tritone interval literally the square root of 2?

posted on Feb, 10 2012 @ 07:01 AM
reply to post by TheCorporateBeast

How is the tritone interval literally the square root of 2?

The ratio of the root note frequency to the aug4/flat5 frequency is 1:√2. Not sure whether this is in just intonation or equal temperament. Maybe the OP can enlighten us.

posted on Feb, 10 2012 @ 07:46 AM

Originally posted by rufusdrak
welcome back Drew Hempel

haha I was thinking same thing. Esp with the springforest stuff.

posted on Feb, 10 2012 @ 08:22 AM
reply to post by CaptainNemo
Lol, it's too late for me. Those doors are off their friggin hinges!!!

posted on Feb, 10 2012 @ 09:28 AM
reply to post by fulllotusqigong

I had earlier mentioned the wave forms of master yogi's and those who have their epiphany with God as Gamma (too many CME vids on the mind I guess) but they are actually in Theta state.

The Alpha state you mention here as being relaxed is also the state your brain is in while in a coma, or watching tv. I gave up my tv years ago because of it, what happens is the brain actually shuts down and is waiting for input so when someone says tv will rot your brain they aren't kidding, it atrophies.

There was some interesting research being done by a professor Michael Perzinger I think his name was, at Laurentian University in Sudbury Ontaro where he hooked up patients to the "God helmet" trying to artificially induce the "God particle. What it did was use electrodes hooked up at various regions of the brain and induced a magnetic field and magnetism is just a form of energy.

This raises the idea that perhaps some day the brain can be stimulated with the right frequencies to initiate activity on a scale that would have taken masters years to perfect via meditation, which could cure brain disorders like autism.

Interestingly enough, the region that gets activated in Yogi's or Nun's is the frontal lobe, which is also the same reason of elevated activity in those suffering epileptic seizures. While the one is desirable the other seems like a consequence of a misfiring brain that resonates the most at that particular lobe. With practice and familiarity (being able to attain that level at will) the region actually thickens and forms a callous.

Excellent thread OP, thoroughly captivating and holding interest.

posted on Feb, 10 2012 @ 09:59 AM

Originally posted by staple

8:15 10:10 deals with the geometries of music.

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to many this stuff still seems all so vague and mysterious yet on the other hand the mystery is unraveling to some

This video you just posted triggered my own further understanding when taken together with the vast amount of seemingly innocuous interrelationships between the topics.

If you spin that triangle with a sphere as demonstrated they depict sequences and sacred geometry entering the mix of topics interconnected here is the final step in stitching them all together IMO. It becomes apparent as soon as you spin that triangle within a square (mentioned elsewhere by me on free-e threads etc)

When you spin a triangle clockwise within a square, the contact points of the triangle and square will go in a counter-clockwise direction. While being pushed it contacts at an opposite or a pull direction... perpetual motion or in other words, infinity since the faster you spin, the faster it wants to spin.

This tied right into my own theories that also came directly from that face on Mars, crop circles, and the pyramids.

What a thoroughly enlightening thread guys, kudo's to you all!

To my limited understanding of musical scales/ chord progressions my challenge is in seeing how the harmonics can be played demonstrating that triangle within the square concept if you follow me... maybe this will trigger some of you thinkers to our ultimate query here, the base harmony of all things...
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posted on Feb, 10 2012 @ 10:21 AM
Black Sabbaths song Black Sabbath uses the notes that was apparently banned from been played in churches because it was said to be the devils chord. In interviews Black Sabbath said they had no idea about this at the time when they wrote it.. The 3 notes in that riff are

root note G .....octave ...G ....then ...C sharp (or D flat)

I'm sure if you search youtube, there will be an interview with them explaining this. Coincidentally the song is related to an experience they had, Geezer the bass player had seen a figure at the bottom of his bed and related the song and lyrics to the experience

posted on Feb, 10 2012 @ 12:31 PM
This is a topic that is very interesting to me. I read a book once which claimed that the earth even has a constant vibrational timbre. I forget which musical note it corresponded to, but they claimed the egyptian pyramids were constructed to accentuate these vibrations.

A thought provoking idea anyways.

posted on Feb, 10 2012 @ 12:34 PM
I don't understand why people keep trying to relate by bringing up music by some of the current top40 pop artists.
I'm sure the Op will correct me if Im wrong buy I don't think this thread is referring to a measly little 3 minute song. That would be the same as taking one vitamin c capsule and expecting never to get sick again.

I think it has to do with the continuous exposure of a certain "chord" that has the most effect, followed by a second-third,....chord to elevate the experience to a higher or lower level of consciousness.

It has more to do with the sounds produced by the musical instruments, in other word, instrumentals, no lyrics.
Basically using these chords, harmonics, sounds and fundamental frequencies of consciousness as a scaffold or crutch to attain what you wish to attain.

posted on Feb, 10 2012 @ 12:51 PM
reply to post by AlonzoTyper

Schumann resonance you're referring to?

posted on Feb, 10 2012 @ 01:33 PM
I am not an educated man so I lack the vocabulary to truely express myself (I guess that's why music works better). As soon as you expess a thought, it's true meaning is lost. Music by passes this barrier and reaches others at a core level.
My thoughts on all this are:

The whole universe is permeated by a frquency that has no resonance or amplitude. If we listen intently we can detect it by not hearing it. All things are created by using complimentary frequencies to start a sound and using the permeating frquency to amplify them so they are manifest.

When you are through laughing try to explain where I missed the mark.


posted on Feb, 10 2012 @ 02:15 PM
reply to post by xizd1

What am I missing here? Is it not true that 0A = 0F = Silence? Can silence amplify complementary frequencies?

posted on Feb, 10 2012 @ 03:32 PM

Originally posted by DenyObfuscation
reply to post by xizd1

What am I missing here? Is it not true that 0A = 0F = Silence? Can silence amplify complementary frequencies?

The answer is de Broglie's Law of Phase Harmony -- when time slows down due to relativity it's when energy as frequency speeds up. De Broglie then figured out that when time expands as infinite phase amplitude then frequency as the consciousness pilot wave goes to zero.

So consciousness is a superliminal, faster than light, pilot wave guiding spacetime and energy-matter.

Luis de Brogle and his Law of Phase Harmony -- it addresses this deep paradox in Einstein's relativity about the quantum time-frequency uncertainty principle.

posted on Feb, 10 2012 @ 03:38 PM

Originally posted by anoncoholic

This tied right into my own theories that also came directly from that face on Mars, crop circles, and the pyramids.

That is the Actual Matrix Plan mind control -- everyone has been brainwashed by CIA New Age Propaganda:

Schwaller de Lubicz, the Godfather of Egyptology (Graham Hancock, etc.), a subject key to
Puharich’s Council of Nine and the Freemasonic “music logarithmic spiral,” was also a leader in
the synarchist movement. “One of Schwaller de Lubicz's 'Watchers' was Vivien Postel du Mas,
the man who wrote the Synarchist Pact of the 1930s. Through du Mas, Schwaller de Lubicz had
a particular influence on Hitler's Deputy, the tormented and complex Rudolf Hess.”332 As Prince
and Picknett note the S.R.I., tied to the CIA and Freemasonry, was a main funder of Egyptology.
The heart of The Sion Revelation zeros in on ‘The Rectified Scottish Rite’ — not the Scottish
system of the U.S. but a different, highly esoteric system. This makes sense according to
professor Hugh B. Urban’s article on French Freemasonry and full-lotus yoga meditation as the
highest level of Freemasonry....

Again indirectly the Matrix Plan is also promoted by James Hurtak: “In 1975, despite NASA’s apparent indifference, Hurtak predicted that further finds of similar structures, including a Sphinx-like monument, would be made on Mars and that they would all prove to be connected in a great cosmic blueprint to the Giza monuments in Egypt.”336

Hurtak is the top disciple of Dr. Andrija Puharich. Some of the figures lurking further back in the shadows also reappear time and time throughout this story, such as the American multimillionaire (and former Navy intelligence officer) Henry Belk, a close associate of Puharich in the 1950s and 1960s…. He is known to have funded James Hurtak…. And according to James Hurtak, via his Academy of Future Sciences, Puharich ‘worked with the US intelligence community.’ By implication this was during the early 1970s when, Hurtak, was also working with him….Unsurprisingly this matches Hurtak’s system: he claims that something has gone wrong with humanity’s ‘programming’ and that, over the thirty-year-period that will end in 2003, the intelligences that rule the universe are coming to repair it by upgrading human intelligence.

332 “Against Synarchy - The Rise of the Rough Beast,” Adapted from a lecture by Lynn Picknett and Clive Prince at the Saunière Society Symposium, Conway Hall, London on 19 September 1999.

333 Professor Hugh B. Urban, “Elitism and esotericism: Strategies of secrecy and power in South Indian Tantra
and French Freemasonry,” Numen-International Review for the History of Religions 44 (1): 1-38, 1997).

337 Hurtak's real agenda has been exposed in the article by Carol S. Matthews, “The Master Race and the Family of Light: Conflict, Spiritual Purification and Bio-Political Agendas in JJ Hurtak's 'Book of Knowledge',” – anti-Muslism racism repackaged as the extraterrestrial “dark forces” in the New Age community.338

posted on Feb, 10 2012 @ 03:45 PM
reply to post by anoncoholic

The pineal gland is the third eye and it's in the center of the brain -- most of the studies on meditation are superficial because they study practitioners who are not real energy masters. I have linked the Mayo Clinic study of "external qi" by qigong master Chunyi Lin who went a month in full lotus in a cave in China -- taking next to no food, no water and no sleep the whole time.

Now on Persinger:

In 2006 I corresponded, via email, with mind control neurology professor Dr. Michael Persinger, an award-winning university lecturer. I had asked Persinger what he thought about Dr. Andrija Puharich's book Beyond Telepathy, and, to my surprise, Persinger stated that he was very familiar with Puharich's research, was very impressed by Puharich and Persinger thought that Puharich was under-appreciated. I then asked Dr. Persinger what he thought about Puharich's CIA connections and I got no response. Haha. Dr. Persinger is best known for his “God Helmet” creation where he can seemingly recreate outer-body-experiences and also recreate alien abduction experiences. The mind control researchers have stated that Persinger was part of the U.S. Navy or the D.I.A.'s top-secret Project Sleeping Beauty which was a mind control project. Persinger acknowledges he did the Navy research on rats. Persinger developed the use of ELF waves to induce vomiting in order to use as mind control – according to this expose on Project Sleeping Beauty.354 According to some mind control researchers Persinger is also connected to CIA mind control fronts: “On the Board of Advisors for the False Memory Syndrome Foundation. Informal advisor to SRI's remote viewing program.”355

Now Dr. Michael Persinger, in a March 2011 university video lecture called No More Secrets, is promoting the same vision as Dr. Andrija Puharich and what I've called the Actual Matrix Plan. Dr. Persinger is stating that this global telepathy technology is in development and the global telepathy technology relies on the ELF waves which were also the focus of Dr. Andrija
Puharich's and Professor Oliver Reiser's research. Just as with the Actual Matrix Plan, Dr.
Persinger is arguing that human memory is stored, after 20 minutes, in the brain synapses but
also after 20 minutes the human memory is stored in the earth's geomagnetic field. Dr. Persinger
is arguing that technology is in development so that humans will be able to access this stored
information from human memories – of all 7 billion humans – from anywhere on the Earth. Dr.
Persinger has done experiments documenting that telepathy is based on increased 7 hertz brain
waves in the right brain hemisphere and that this telepathy is increased when the geomagnetic
field of Earth is less active. Dr. Persinger also cites the research with CIA remote viewer Ingo
Swann and also Persinger's own research with psychic Sean Harribance.356 Persinger states it has
been proven that the human eye does emit photons.

Dr. Persinger has documented that this telepathy is increased when the person can increase their
own person brain's 7 hertz field so that it synchronizes with human brains' around it and also
resonates with the earth's geomagnetic field. Dr. Persinger says that the windows computer
operating system blocks telepathy because it uses all frequencies and also modern technology
has caused a dramatic decrease in natural paranormal abilities. Yet with the proper focus on the
energy of the paranormal abilities – the Earth's resonance energy – then technology can be
developed that will mimic what I call the natural resonance revolution. Dr. Persinger then argues
this new technology will bring a utopia because of the inherent empathy and because there will
be no more secrets. Dr. Persinger says the technology will be holographic but the military
implications are not discussed – nor is discussed who will be in control.

354 For Project Sleeping Beauty as a DIA operation Dr. Colin Ross, M.D. cites Jim Schnabel, Remote Viewers: The Secret History of America’s Psychic Spies. New York: Dell, 1997.
355 “People and Researchers: Dr. Michael Persinger,” Mind Control Forums.
356 Dr. Michael A. Persinger, “The Harribance Effect as Pervasive Outer-Body-Experiences, NeuroQuantal
Evidence with More Precise Measurements,” NeuroQuantology, December 2010, pp. 444-465.

posted on Feb, 10 2012 @ 03:50 PM

Originally posted by Astyanax
reply to post by TheCorporateBeast

How is the tritone interval literally the square root of 2?

The ratio of the root note frequency to the aug4/flat5 frequency is 1:√2. Not sure whether this is in just intonation or equal temperament. Maybe the OP can enlighten us.

Equal-temperament but it has its origins in Just Tuning since 5/4 is the cube root of two as the major third or 10/8 with 9/8 as the major second.

So my research proves mathematically that the secret of Archytas for doubling the cube was to take the compound proportions from logos -- from Pythagorean complementary opposites harmonics -- so the compound proportion for doubling the cube is 1 is to 5/4 as 5/4 is to 8/5 as 8/5 is to 2.

8/5 being the complementary opposite of 5/4 -- the minor sixth to major third.

posted on Feb, 10 2012 @ 04:01 PM

Originally posted by TheCorporateBeast

A) It's true that using logarithmic maths a perfect 5th would be a perfect circle, but what do you mean when you say this is false and that it's all about asymmetry and complementary opposites? Also, harmonics happen (on a guitar for example) when you press the chord right in the middle of it's length or somewhere according to the "golden ratio".

So in Western math we assume the commutative property of A x B = B x A but in Pythagorean harmonics 2:3 is C to G and G to C is 3:4 which is noncommutative math.

That is the secret of the Pythagorean Tetrad of 1:2:3:4 which is a triangle as the side of a tetrahedron pyramid and One is not a number in Pythagorean philosophy which also means the capstone of the pyramid as the All Seeing Eye will never be finished. It means that the source of the I-thought is the Cosmic Mother as Apeiron in Greece or Nuit in Egypt -- the Goddess of Nothingness.

So Two is the first number as matter (the Matrix) but it is the resonance or reflection of the formless as chaos or Apeiron and One is not a number because it is Male (Two is female). One as Male is the phallus as the all seeing eye -- as the pineal gland -- it is the source of the I-thought that resonates into light as complementary opposites or quantum diffraction gradients.

So there are 70 octaves in the quantum liquid crystal plasma vortex of reality -- the rainbow vortex holograph.

These octaves are eternally resonating through the complementary opposites of the Perfect Fifth and Perfect Fourth.

What Archytas and Plato did was use the concept of "negative infinity" as a contrast to Apeiron - so "negative infinity" is a materialist containment of infinity as zero.

So the square root of two is the first irrational geometric magnitude as the containment of infinity and it is traced back to the Brahmin Vedic ritual sacrifice altar geometry by mathematician Abraham Seidenberg.

The crucial fact about transcendental “pi” – (the symbolic attempt to square the circle) is that (8d divided by 9) squared is the ancient Egyptian definition for obtaining the circle area. 8/9 is the mean of the harmonic ratio 2:3, from 6:8:9:12, the Babylonian tetrachord, as detailed by Ernest McClain. The Egyptians reduced their numbers to two-thirds plus a unit fraction (the infinite diverging harmonic series). 2:3 is, of course, yang as the alchemical infinite spiral of fifths.

In the academic article “An Ancient Name of the Lyre,” Professor Vyacheslav V. Ivanov
traces the early Indo-European word for the hand-held harp or lyre from the Hittites to Egypt,

The spread of the term to the Southern part of the civilized world of the II mil.
B.C. is seen in Egyptian knrr, attested after the Amarna period. As shown by
Leopold Vorreiter in his study on Riesenlyren des Altertums, all of the Egyptian
large lyres similar to the earlier Ancient Oriental ones are found in Amarna at the
time of Amenophis IV (Akhanayatin), i.e. 1350-1333 B.C. They may be
considered one of those numerous elements of the new monotheistic Sun cult that
can be connected with Near Eastern (probably Western Semitic-Canaanite and/or
Hurrian) influence.600

In India this transition to the Solar Freemasonic priesthood of ritual mass sacrifice was
documented and promoted by math professor Abraham Seidenberg. The late UC-Berkeley math
professor Abraham Seidenberg gives great credence to the structural basis of Freemasonry
controlling science. Similarly, as Abraham Seidenberg documented, the Pythagorean triangles in
Egypt had the base of the triangle equaling Isis, and the height as Osiris, and the hypotenuse as
the complementary opposite resonance between Set and Horus. Time is not “contained”
geometrically – the capstone of the pyramid is never completed – the mass ritual sacrifice

Math professor Seidenberg published three essays in the academic journal Folklore that
connect his research to the Freemasonic ritual sacrifice origins of mathematics (he references his
other “ritual sacrifice” essays entitled “ritual origins of counting,” “ritual origins of geometry,”
and “ritual origins of the circle and square” published in the math journal Archive for History of
Exact Sciences). Seidenberg’s argument is that there is a global myth using ritual sacrifice
derived from a secret organization using ritual geometry. His work, published in Folklore
Volume 94 issue #2, 1983; Vol. 80, 1969 and Vol. 70, 1959, is in collaboration with Lord Raglan
and is clearly a promotion of Freemasonry.

Seidenberg and Lord Raglan state their position:
The two most important institutions are, or were, the divine kingship and the dual organization…. the dual organization and the kingship, both being descendants of
the Creation ritual, and even that the dual organization results from the orientation
of the group to its groups of neophytes, male and female.

600 Vyacheslav V. Ivanov, “An Ancient Name of the Lyre,” UCLA Program in Indo-European Studies,
Vol. 1, 1999.

posted on Feb, 10 2012 @ 04:30 PM
12/21/12 I believe all the AI gets turned off due to a solar flare. Thats the rapture literalized. All the robots are going to suddenly just drop to lifeless. Just to throw that out there.

posted on Feb, 10 2012 @ 05:39 PM

Originally posted by DenyObfuscation
reply to post by xizd1

Can silence amplify complementary frequencies?

As a matter of fact, yes

when that triangle/square spins, if it was free floating (inert) as the triangle spun forwards and pulled from backwards at twice the contact the square will naturally want to pickup a sympathetic spin and it is technically the same thing, the silence would be where the triangle/square equalize.

so instead of a slowing down this reaction acts like second gear, your amplification

edit: that silence is where the triangle/square attempt to equalize
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