Big Name Neuroscientist Announces Telepathy as Proven Fact!

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posted on Feb, 9 2012 @ 08:42 AM
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As is with Scientists, it is the same with you and I, they gott'a pay the bills. They count on Grants or pay in some form to survive. Often times these funds are provided by pharmaceutical companies in part. Scientists are invariably drawn together in groups or clique's and are forced to follow their guidelines. There are very few willing to buck the system. The problem with this is that it oftentimes excludes research from becoming mainstream or at worst, even viewed. These institutions can capably silence researchers they disagree with or who are not on board their curriculum, and that only hurts discovery. It's monetary. You want conspiracy.. well here it is in it's most virulent form. Atheists will say there is no God, based in part on findings like the God Hat, believing this accounts for the NDE experience's that have been either exhibited or are documented, postulating it is influenced by some known scientifically quantified mechanism. I believe just as strongly that this might be the mechanism that is available and used by a God or Creator. It is the mechanics of the creation and it's workings, why not use it? Smoke and mirrors, lightning and rumblings need not accompany a Religious experience. Why would this not be a possibility? As for the ESP aspect.... it may in fact be grounded in unknown aspects of creation, it need not be 'Prophetic' in nature, given from God. Not everything has been discovered. Einstein has proven that, or more correctly 'failed to prove it' with his 'Unified Field Theory' All that can be known is not... but at some point promises to be. Whether in this life or the next. Jesus could read the minds of the Pharisees, perhaps because he was God incarnate, or simply attuned with such an ability. It may be that it can be honed and manifest in mere mortals as well, such as oracles of old or Empaths of today. I really could not care less the responses of trolls or atheists, since their ambition is to attack anything concerning the possibility of God or a creator. But this post is clearly addressing either-or.




posted on Feb, 9 2012 @ 08:43 AM
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Great find.

Just he states that telepathy can be learned. I believe it can be forgotten. I'm sure we can all remember when we were young, how easily we could tap into this force. But as we grow older we become conditioned by society to deny and learn to foget the natural process that links us telepathicaly to the natural world.



posted on Feb, 9 2012 @ 08:51 AM
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I've been knowing telepathy is a fact. The third thread I wrote on ATS was an abstract how-to guide for telepathy.

How to be telepathic



posted on Feb, 9 2012 @ 08:54 AM
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Speaking of dogs knowing when their owner is about to arrive, I think for the most part it is on a scheduled time frame in most cases. The owner comes home and the dog is fed or played with or whatever stimuli is given the dog. Replicating this response day after day gives the dog an internal clock. I wake everyday with no alarm, instead I wake everyday at between 5:15 to 5:30 am. This usually never varies more than a ten minute time frame + or - This is cyclic in nature I believe, as the time frame can be changed to accommodate my needs as to a different time of waking. I believe it could be induced in the dog simply by body chemistry and windows of time that the owned arrives day in, day out.



posted on Feb, 9 2012 @ 08:57 AM
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This isn't just science fiction we are being slowly directed to a global corporate dictatorship and films have been drip feeding us snippets of info on such visions of control.
Pre-Crime Fiction

Pre-Crime Reality


Full Body Scanner Fiction

Full Body Scanner Reality


Tracking and Mind Reading Fiction
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The idea is to make people believe it already exists as this will make the transition more stable and also helps develop further innovations in such tech as the overall opinion is based on projections of current tech at the time but the fundamental basis for such tech is proven this gives people little or no time to oppose the more sinister uses for such devices, as they are already cemented in the basis of such ideas and promotions via tv and books. Allowing society to assist in its own downfall is the basis for for the shift in control and isn't a new tactic as history has shown before people will execute the plan and even beg for the tools required to enact the solution or change. The control of the masses is most effective when the masses believe they have control when in reality they just drive the plan or plans at any given time as the TPTB read them the directions to the next stage in civilization.

Remember what we call society is just an experiment and when the time comes for change its alot better to maintain power. Conservation of human diversity has been going on for thousands of years borders and citizenship just help control the genes that enter and dwell in your country this is done for no other reason than preservation of mankind just like nations do with plants and livestock they do with us too, as history shows that the introduction of foreign species has caused the extinction of many animals and plants.

Even if we want to stop the future we can't as the minority control the majority.









posted on Feb, 9 2012 @ 08:57 AM
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First, a tip of the hat (along with a S & F) to the OP for a most thought provoking thread.

Ultimately, what the good professor is proposing is nothing less than a hive mind without any apparent hierarchy. We have been conditioned to think of any group-think as being controlled by unseen forces for their own ends. This is the Borg analogy. However a true hive mind, where every individual has access to the accumulated knowledge of every other mind, would preclude any sort of centralized control. Within this "organic internet", not only would raw data be available but the motivations and agenda underlying the data would be instantly revealed making disinformation impossible.

I was most interested in the data presented that the demonstrated abilities were at their most effective during times of "quiet" in the earths magnetic field as well as the shielding effect of electromagnetic fields such as that generated by the Windows operating system. The electronic noise produced by our modern technology would seem to have a dampening effect on the ability to synchronize minds.

Following this logic it is reasonable to assume that an external force such as a massive solar event which could collapse the earths magnetic field as well as render inoperative the majority of our electromagnetic devices may very well produce the "quiet" necessary for this global mind to manifest.

Could this be the "awakening" or "enlightenment" that we have been told to expect?



posted on Feb, 9 2012 @ 09:03 AM
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Yes. I agree completely, mostly. However, I think it does already exist and has for quite some time. I think once things are being talked about it's partly because to some it's become impossible to hide what is going on, plus that minority that's in control really enjoys spelling out what they're doing to you, while they are doing it. It is part of their psychology. My take on it is these things are there to make sure we are violent, aggressive, unable to get along, reinforcing the problems, so that the control is the solution, what's being begged for, as stated in your post.
Obviously, without mentioning the specific project, all of that was the point of psyops, a long time ago.



posted on Feb, 9 2012 @ 09:03 AM
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Originally posted by WWu777
Well well, look what we have here. Dr. Michael Persinger, the famous Neuroscientist at Ontario University, an Atheist hailed by skeptics for his "God helmet" experiments as being evidence against NDE's being evidence for an afterlife, has turned the tables on his skeptic admirers by announcing that he has now discovered a proven telepathic link in his experiments


I can't see the videos right now but why has he turned against his skeptic admirers (Atheist )? From reading your post it looks like he has some evidence to suggest that there can exist a form of quantum entanglement, so what does that have to do with Atheist or God?

I don't see how it could impact Atheists or that it proofs that God exists, if there is scientific proof to suggest that quantum entanglement exists? Or I'm I missing something?







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posted on Feb, 9 2012 @ 09:08 AM
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Ultimately, what the good professor is proposing is nothing less than a hive mind without any apparent hierarchy. We have been conditioned to think of any group-think as being controlled by unseen forces for their own ends. This is the Borg analogy. However a true hive mind, where every individual has access to the accumulated knowledge of every other mind, would preclude any sort of centralized control. Within this "organic internet", not only would raw data be available but the motivations and agenda underlying the data would be instantly revealed making disinformation impossible.


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I don't understand. It seems the opposite to me. A true "hive" mind, as you state, if induced or controlled by a computer interface, or able to be, would then "infect" all the rest in the hive with said control or induction. It's the same as sharing an airborne pathogen.



posted on Feb, 9 2012 @ 09:16 AM
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I can't see the videos right now but why has he turned against his skeptic admirers (Atheist )? From reading your post it looks like he has some evidence to suggest that there can exist a form of quantum entanglement, so what does that have to do with Atheist or God?

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quantum entanglement: scientific term and explanation for spiritual ideas called karma and reincarnation, or perhaps a naturalizing spin for what is manipulated.
Just an interesting thought.



posted on Feb, 9 2012 @ 09:18 AM
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When it comes to conspiracies, some talk about DUMBs where they do telepathy research often considered fake of a whole fake story, now it seems this is another part of the stories that turns out to be true. Should this be pushed and proved any further, you will see how much of all these conspiarcies as technology or such skills can be real.

As for the research saying not to believe, partially it is understandable as there was no proof but now when it comes to more proof, conservative science has to finally open their damn eyes and see that a lot of the SO CALLED 'STORIES' could hold truth.

^ This is the same as me who's studying Astronomy - 'dno't believe alien visits it is all conspiracies' - I beg to differ and open your eyes. Just typical conservatism in science..



posted on Feb, 9 2012 @ 09:32 AM
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How would one keep their secrets? What if I think something but don't mean it. Telepathy can be a dangerous tool in bad hands.



posted on Feb, 9 2012 @ 09:35 AM
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My understanding of the video is that the computer is used to synchronize the magnetic fields surrounding the subjects brains. Rather than inducing or controlling the communications, the field merely damped the external fields in order to provide the necessary electromagnetic "quiet".



posted on Feb, 9 2012 @ 09:36 AM
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Originally posted by intrptr
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...he has documented telepathic experiments involving animals knowing in advance when their owners were coming home, and humans who were able to demonstrate consistent above chance that they could sense when they were being stared at.

I'll bite. Add to it the freaky experience of thinking of someone just before they call you on the telephone.


Especially if it's someone you haven't talked to them in awhile. That happens to me all the time. I'll be thinking about someone and then bam! They call.


Or family members knowing the moment somebody has had an accident or died. There is surely a link unlimited by distance. People who haves these and other experiences are not surprised when someone says "scientifically proven". For them it happens all the time and is (somewhat) ordinary. I personally hope I never get used to it.


This has happened to me three times in my life. I wouldn't say I "knew", but each time something prevented me from seeing them before they died. The first time was my grandmother. She'd been hospitalized with a stroke, but was supposed to be released the morning she died. I was supposed to be there for breakfast with her, but my aunt stayed with me the night before and I didn't get to bed till after 4 am so I overslept. I was getting ready to leave for the hospital when the phone rang and it was the hospital saying she'd coded blue; she died the next day. The second time was my mother in law. I'd taken care of her for months and every single night I went over there after work to make sure everything was okay. One day I was really, really tired--I had a new baby and I was exhausted from working, taking care of two households and a new baby, so I thought, "I'll just go home; one night won't make a difference." She died that evening at home. The third time was my mother's 102 year old neighbor. I'd made plans to visit her because she wasn't doing well, but I was running a little late. My mother called me while I was in the car on my way and told me that they took her to the hospital. She died the next day.

If it had happened once, you could call it coincidence. But three times? I don't know what the statistics would be on that, but IMO it has to be greater than chance. I don't know if I just wasn't meant to be there or what, but it's very unnerving.

I also have dreams about people weeks or months before I meet them. The details might be off--what color shirt they're wearing or something--but the overall event is right on the money.
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posted on Feb, 9 2012 @ 09:36 AM
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I didn't read it all but I've long felt that if everything is truly made of the same material, there MUST be some kind of bond, even if very weak that connects everything. I think telekinesis on minor levels is also possible but we just don't know how to mentally manipulate matter.



posted on Feb, 9 2012 @ 09:37 AM
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Now, just think...if they actually build a practical telepathy-enabling device, then what would stop the military from seizing it and forcibly scanning our thoughts?

This is a real possibility people. There is nothing more powerful than the ability to know what any person is thinking just by training a device on them. Can our government resist such potential?

I don't think so.

The only other option is our leaders saying, "Well, if we can't use it for military applications, then you can't use it for the furtherance of mankind."

Yes, they would be pig-headed like that.

But no matter what happens, I'll be intensely interested to see where this goes.



posted on Feb, 9 2012 @ 09:40 AM
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Originally posted by Starchild23
Now, just think...if they actually build a practical telepathy-enabling device, then what would stop the military from seizing it and forcibly scanning our thoughts?

This is a real possibility people. There is nothing more powerful than the ability to know what any person is thinking just by training a device on them. Can our government resist such potential?

I don't think so.

The only other option is our leaders saying, "Well, if we can't use it for military applications, then you can't use it for the furtherance of mankind."

Yes, they would be pig-headed like that.

But no matter what happens, I'll be intensely interested to see where this goes.


Maybe what we call telepathy is just a very good sensitivity to body language? You can tell a lot about a person, what they're thinking, and how they're feeling, just by watching them.



posted on Feb, 9 2012 @ 09:52 AM
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yes, this is the way it is presented for the purposes of this research. However, once you begin discussing electromagnetic fields of the brain and the computer, surely you would realize all the other research and technologies that have dealt with those two things, and that they most certainly have been used in inducing in the human brain.
From the OP:


In the 1980′s Persinger made headlines with his “God Helmet”, a device that stimulates temporal lobes with a weak magnetic field in order to produce religious states.

This is my definition of what others have termed a "slippery slope." I explain more thoroughly what I mean in previous posts in this thread.
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posted on Feb, 9 2012 @ 09:58 AM
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Originally posted by Starchild23
Now, just think...if they actually build a practical telepathy-enabling device, then what would stop the military from seizing it and forcibly scanning our thoughts?

This is a real possibility people. There is nothing more powerful than the ability to know what any person is thinking just by training a device on them. Can our government resist such potential?


If you are thinking in terms of a "machine" that can intercept and interpret thoughts, then you are correct. However, rather than some sort of "device" we are talking about an organic, universal "knowing" which is very much a two-way street. Any attempt to control or otherwise influence the hive mind would be apparent to everyone and therefore ineffective in much the same way that the understanding of subliminal messages contained within advertising makes one immune to its effects.


The only other option is our leaders saying, "Well, if we can't use it for military applications, then you can't use it for the furtherance of mankind."


Likewise, if knowledge is universally available suppression of knowledge becomes impossible.



posted on Feb, 9 2012 @ 10:00 AM
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Many believe what you describe has already happened, long ago, and that this is just a way of presenting it that would be more acceptable, even exciting to people.
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