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posted on Jan, 8 2013 @ 01:32 PM
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You are the one making the claim. I don't need to disprove this claim. The onus is on those proposing the claim.




posted on Jan, 8 2013 @ 02:00 PM
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Xcal doesn't understand how Fluoride contributes to calcification in vivo, so this in vitro study helps to explain that. Fluoride is a factor, not the primary agent, that contributes to calcification in certain environments, primarily due to leeching, or having a strong affinity for calcium ions. The pineal gland concentrates more fluoride than anywhere else in the body. Yes there is hydroxyapetite in the bones and teeth, but there are MUCH higher concentrations in the pineal gland (Luke 1997; 2001). Phosphate is a necessary component for the compound itself and is present in serum, in addition to a hundred other compounds, electrolytes, antibodies, among other things. therefore this article is crucial for understanding calcification dynamics.
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posted on Jan, 8 2013 @ 02:38 PM
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Originally posted by stereologist
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I have a feeling that we will soon get to find out if the Pineal gland is effected by a huge solar flare. The sun is getting a little spotty and some look pretty interesting. It's getting closer to the Solar Max. It seems they keep postponing it lately. Hopefully it happens in the winter around here. The heat of Summer is bad enough without having the pineal gland acting up.


Solar flares occur regularly. If there were a connection you would not have to wait. The evidence would already be available.


communities.washingtontimes.com...

I have read many articles from scientific organizations and Harvard that address the effect of Solar Flares on the brain. There is plenty of evidence available on it. They haven't got the exact reason down yet, it does address the release of melatonin and changes in brain chemistry but does not pinpoint the pineal gland directly. Melatonin is made in the pineal gland and is Dimethyltryptamine. If something stimulates the pineal gland, it could secrete the Dimethyltryptamine to give spiritual or hallucinatory effects. This is real science, not some quack stuff. The only question is what exact thing is causing the pineal gland to secrete it's juices. We are dealing with parts of the primordial brain here, which includes part of the fight or flight system as well as a system that protects us when we are injured so we do not make the injury more severe. The Government even had Harvard University study the effect of increased solar activity on the stock market, and it was shown to have an effect on the trading. Maybe you should do some research on it before denying it, this is a real phenomenon.



posted on Jan, 8 2013 @ 02:40 PM
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Originally posted by twitchy
apparently exposure to electromagnetic fields can accelerate calcification of the Pineal Gland, unless of course stereologist says otherwise.
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I'd very much love to see the publication on this. Does it also give values as to what intensities Electromagnetism becomes a contributing factor?



posted on Jan, 8 2013 @ 03:41 PM
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off-topic post removed to prevent thread-drift


 



posted on Jan, 8 2013 @ 06:02 PM
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The thread topic is "Sun flares affect our pineal gland, causing mass awakening?" In other words, asking the question -- is it truthful and inspiring discussion of same, NOT each other or sideline issues.

Please post on-topic.

Thanks



posted on Jan, 9 2013 @ 12:01 AM
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Xcal doesn't understand how Fluoride contributes to calcification in vivo, so this in vitro study helps to explain that.

There you would be wrong. Xcalibur254 is well versed in these issues.

The in vitro study has nothing to do with tissues, let alone the pineal gland.


primarily due to leeching

No one has shown that leeching is a primary.


or having a strong affinity for calcium ions

No has that been shown to be correct.


The pineal gland concentrates more fluoride than anywhere else in the body.

And that is another unsupported claim.


Yes there is hydroxyapetite in the bones and teeth, but there are MUCH higher concentrations in the pineal gland (Luke 1997; 2001).

You do realize that the Luke 1997 article is a graduate thesis that is not published, right? You also realize that your claim that the claim of MUCH higher in the pineal that the teeth is not supported by the article you reference.



posted on Jan, 9 2013 @ 12:04 AM
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I have read many articles from scientific organizations and Harvard that address the effect of Solar Flares on the brain. There is plenty of evidence available on it

So why not post that instead of an opinion piece?


This is real science, not some quack stuff.

So provide that info.


The Government even had Harvard University study the effect of increased solar activity on the stock market, and it was shown to have an effect on the trading. Maybe you should do some research on it before denying it, this is a real phenomenon.

Why don't you post the links to the research instead of simply claiming something exists?



posted on Jan, 9 2013 @ 12:52 AM
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english.pravda.ru...

This has been researched to death over the years. So much that most people know that this association exists, it's not a conspiracy, maybe some younger people haven't heard of it I suppose. It is like the effect of the moon on people and seasonal disorders, just a longer cycle. I don't know if it is an awakening, it is a release of certain brain chemicals in the brain. These chemicals can make people spiritual or crazy, depending on the person. This Dimethyltryptamine is a natural psychoactive brain chemical that can do anything from giving vivid dreams to visions or hallucinations. Type in the name Dimethyltryptamine in Wiki, it is also found in nature and our body somehow produces it from tryptophan in foods and needs a MAOI inhibitor to work. The chemical itself is found in certain plants and is used by Indians and other cultures in ceremonies.

I'm not sure if what I am speaking in is considered a drug discussion, if it is a mod can remove it. It is a schedule one drug and is a pharmacutical.
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posted on Jan, 9 2013 @ 05:34 AM
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Since when did the trashy tabloid Pravda become a credible source of scientific information?



posted on Jan, 9 2013 @ 07:14 AM
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Citing Theses and Dissertations is commonplace and accepted academic conduct by journals.

The UK researcher did publish the condensed version in a peer reviewed journal 4 years later.

In quite prominent dental journal Caries Research.

I think you missed the 2001 following the 1997;

PubMed here www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11275672

Caries Res. 2001 Mar-Apr;35(2):125-8.
Fluoride deposition in the aged human pineal gland.
Luke J.
School of Biological Sciences, University of Surrey, Guildford, UK

Official Karger publisher link content.karger.com/ProdukteDB/produkte.asp?Aktion=ShowAbstract&ArtikelNr=47443&Ausgabe=227489&ProduktNr=224219
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posted on Jan, 9 2013 @ 07:32 AM
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And He (Jesus) was saying, “For this reason I have said to you, that no one can come to Me unless it has been granted him from the Father.” John 6:65


Let's try believing Jesus over a hippy looking to destroy you. If you believe what Jesus said above, you'd know that no amount of fluoride could impair your ability to believe through 'calcifying the pineal gland'. In which case, you could see that the lies presented in the OP's video. This then would lead you to look for other ways fluoride effects us to the negative. Fluoride in our drinking water messes up the thinking process by interfering with acetyl- choline synthesis. If our thinking process is impaired, as anyone who's drunk too much or taken medication can verify, our actions and decisions become affected because what we normally hold as right and wrong goes flying out the _

So when this promoter of 'third eye enlightenment' comes along preaching the evils of fluorides impact on the pineal gland and it's prevention of obtaining said "enlightenment" is he not instead working to build up your desires for such "enlightenment"? If you knew the truth of Jesus words above, you could spot the deception. Our God in Heaven could care less about the state of your pineal because if needed, he'd zap it healthy.

God uses everything that these wolves do to accomplish his own purposes. If sodium fluoride goes, it would be to bring back the clarity of thought to people that have been walking around like docile and state obedient pups, lapping up the violent and mindless filth that our same government pours on us through its ministry of propaganda called hollywood. If it affects our thinking through docility and obedience it is impairing our ability in right and wrong which then in turn involves judgement.

Knowing that it is God who grants belief means that neither the sun nor our pineal gland affects such granting, and therefore this video serves only one purpose - enticing susceptible individuals into desiring what this man sells. He makes the "fruit" attractive to you - mass awakening, altering consciousness, god as a force, third eye enlightenment and psychic abilities. These things can make us desire that fruit....and "mass awakening" is but the old serpent's promise of "knowledge" from eating it. 

This "third eye enlightenment" through meditation, drugs, sodomy and yoga all stem from Hinduism...you know, the religion whereby it's adherents are marked on the forehead? The religious practice deceptively sold in the western world as "spirituality". The religion that entices us westerners with the phrase


Yoga is the progressive elimination of consciousness in order to secure pure Self-awareness.


And NEVER includes the sentence that follows:


This consciousness must be reduced to ashes, its seeds sterilized so as to render all future consciousness impossible.”


So unless you want to sit still wearing diapers, be spoon-fed your every meal and cared for as a mindless invalid like all yogis who supposedly obtain nirvana - which IS the highest attainment of Hinduism - you'd best delete this video from your favourites. Get your rational thought process back - use the evidence of psych wards filled to the brim with druggies who've so fried their brains that they too need physical assistance just like those forehead stamped invalid yogis. The west is under their sway, all images and logos are branded with their sun god and third eye imagery - and yet we can't discern that this seemingly nice guy on YouTube is pouring out just what they want you to eat. That's where fluoride impacts us - our critical thinking!



posted on Jan, 9 2013 @ 08:27 AM
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The Pineal gland releases it's chemicals during prayer also. It releases it's chemicals during singing. These chemicals are what gives us the spiritual feeling in church. So you are saying that this spiritual feeling isn't necessary for Christianity. It in fact is the reason that people truly believe in Jesus. Fluoridating water will destroy peoples belief in Christianity also. This is evident in society here in America where more and more people are worshiping material things instead of what we are supposed to worship. This knowledge of fluoride is ancient, it goes back at least a couple of thousand years. People have been trying to break the tie with god for a long time.



posted on Jan, 9 2013 @ 10:55 AM
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Unsupported? Even though I cited a scientific pub?

You clearly don't know what you're talking about. Another sentence in reply to you is only wasted at this point.
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posted on Jan, 9 2013 @ 11:17 AM
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Unsupported? Even though I cited a scientific pub?

You clearly don't know what you're talking about. Another sentence in reply to you is only wasted at this point.

You picked an article which has no bearing on the issue.

What tissue did the article cover? It didn't.

If you select an article make sure that it is germane to the discussion.

I had hoped when I asked questions in an earlier post that you would have picked up on the problem.



posted on Jan, 9 2013 @ 11:23 AM
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It is like the effect of the moon on people

The Moon does not effect people.

The article you linked to is not a scientific source. It seems to be nothing other than an unsubstantiated opinion piece.



posted on Jan, 9 2013 @ 11:25 AM
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As I stated before the statements made about that article do not follow from the contents of that article.



posted on Jan, 9 2013 @ 11:37 AM
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Fluoridating water will destroy peoples belief in Christianity also

Things just went from crazy to loony.

There are all sorts of claims about fluoride. Some such as this claim border on fear mongering.

The fact is that fluoridation is effective against dental problems. That has been clearly demonstrated for over 60 years. The anti-fluoridation movement is consumed by created one irrational fear to another. This is only one tactic used by those opposed to preventing tooth decay. All sorts of bogus claims are tossed out with the desperate plea that unless all lunatic claims are dispensed with then nothing should happen.

Look over the articles in those loony anti-F websites. Do the articles discuss what the websites claim? Nothing posted in this thread addresses the issue that is claimed. Not surprising. The same tactic is used by frauds like Wilcock that reference articles unrelated to their claims.



posted on Jan, 9 2013 @ 11:56 AM
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You really haven't researched the subject to at least intermediate depth.

There are crystals in the pineal, it was tested and confirmed even with the high-end physics lab - European Synchrotron Radiation Facility (ESRF)

Your post had this, contrast that with closing sentences of the abstract



claim of MUCH higher in the pineal that the teeth is not supported by the article you reference.


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Pineal and muscle contained 297+/-257 and 0.5+/-0.4 mg F/kg wet weight, respectively; bone contained 2,037+/-1,095 mg F/kg ash weight. The pineal contained 16,000+/-11,070 mg Ca/kg wet weight. There was a positive correlation between pineal F and pineal Ca (r = 0.73, p



posted on Jan, 9 2013 @ 12:16 PM
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According to everything I have read and was scientifically founded from research dictates that melanin is a sort of semiconductor or even considered a superconductor so sun flares is one thing, taking advantage of them is another, melanin and the pineal are very connected so there will be no mass awakening if you are not fully equipped naturally.

My question is, all of these theories that suggest some sort of awakening from the sun's rays or radiation awakening your pineal abilities, if you do not have a high amount or any melanin receptors at all what good is this entire theory of the new age bandwagon of this nonsense of 3rd eye ? or even the more frivolous claim that taking it synthetically will assist in pineal activation accessing 4th dimension and above for everyone?

There are tons more research about melanin, that many reject because it might be too radical for them to accept.

Will it even benefit or work for those that seek this enlightenment, everything that I have been reading says no, you are wasting your time, if you don't have the circuitry for a ciruit to work, what is the point? you are a natural loss to tap into it, skin cancer sort or proves that for the fair skinned black or white doesn't matter the race, the sun is not your friend for prolonged direct exposure.
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