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The sickest auction sale ever?

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posted on Feb, 7 2012 @ 07:31 PM
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I'm sure that there are going to be several different opinions on this auction.
If you owned this.....would you sell it, or donate it to a museum?

www.dailymail.co.uk...


A collection of surgical equipment that belonged to a Nazi concentration camp commandant is being put up for auction this week.





The wooden box of tools belonged to Anton Burger, a major in the SS who worked at the Theresienstadt concentration camp between July 1943 and February 1944, where 140,000 Jews were held - and 33,000 of them died.

News of the sale has provoked outrage in the Jewish community. Jon Benjamin, chief executive of the Board of Deputies, the main representative body of British Jews, said that 'to seek to profit from such ghoulish objects is deeply troubling'.

Other Jewish groups, including the Anne Frank Trust and Holocaust Educational Trust, said that the collection should be placed in an educational context, such as a museum.

Theresienstadt was used as a propaganda tool during the Second World War, with the Germans trying to fool the world that it was a 'paradise camp'.





Disturbingly, given the contents of the box, there is no evidence that Sturmbannfuhrer Burger ever received medical training.

The mostly monogrammed equipment - which has a guide price of £2,000 to £4,000 - has been put up for sale at a small auction house in Bude, Cornwall, by an anonymous seller.


IMO, considering the nature of these tools, I would think that the only moral option would be to donate them to a museum. To make profit off of something directly connected to some of the worst atrocities in the world just seems wrong to me. It just would not be worth all the bad feelings that are caused.




posted on Feb, 7 2012 @ 07:36 PM
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There's no way in hell that i would buy those...thats just disgusting. Just thinking about owning something that was used to brutally operate on people, without anesthetic (though i don't know how true that is) just disturbs me.
Can't blame someone for wanting a profit off of it though, most people are greedy.
If i owned that, i would just get it out of my house no matter how.



posted on Feb, 7 2012 @ 07:40 PM
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outrage in the Jewish community.

Im assuming its not a jewish person making money off it then



posted on Feb, 7 2012 @ 07:42 PM
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Bahaha exactly.

It's only outrageous if it offends a jew - sorry, a 'member of the jewish community'. Wait - isn't that a jew?

So sick of people getting offended by everything. If I was offended by everything that offended me I'd be a lot busier.



posted on Feb, 7 2012 @ 07:43 PM
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Should be donated to a Holocaust Museum.

Yes I agree, it's sick an if I came into possession of such a cursed object, I would donate it and get rid of it asap.

I hope the money made for this goes towards human rights.

We gotta grow up folks, humanity is on a tight time line and if we all don't start playing a lot nicer recess is going to be called off permanently.



posted on Feb, 7 2012 @ 07:43 PM
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has been put up for sale at a small auction house in Bude, Cornwall, by an anonymous seller.


Probably not......anonymous.......I don't think I'd want people to know who I was either, but of course I wouldn't want to own them in the first place.



posted on Feb, 7 2012 @ 07:46 PM
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There are people that collect Nazi paraphenilia (sp) , from uniforms to weapons, to this crap.

It will probably fetch a few bob, it will be something that someone must have.

Me, Im ok with my coin collection.



posted on Feb, 7 2012 @ 07:46 PM
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Originally posted by Garfee
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Bahaha exactly.

It's only outrageous if it offends a jew - sorry, a 'member of the jewish community'. Wait - isn't that a jew?

So sick of people getting offended by everything. If I was offended by everything that offended me I'd be a lot busier.
The anti semitism crap has gone too far.. I mean look right now they are using it as an excuse for Israel to butcher hundreds of thousands of innocent people.
I think they often forget that millions of other people who were not Jewish also died in ww2.

And any smart person would know that you can’t move on from everything if you continue to make it a touchy subject.



posted on Feb, 7 2012 @ 07:47 PM
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The wooden box of tools belonged to Anton Burger, a major in the SS who worked at the Theresienstadt concentration camp between July 1943 and February 1944, where 140,000 Jews were held - and 33,000 of them died.


Lets forget about the gypsies,gays other foreigners ,the disabled and resistance people that were also killed just for the sake of convenience.

6 million jews were killed in WWII


And another 6 million people in europe together with the jews but why care,right?



posted on Feb, 7 2012 @ 07:47 PM
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I studied the Holocaust for several years, did a thesis on Mein Kampf in college.

Offense, I'm not sure if I'm Jewish or not, maybe it's a blessing I don't know my biological maternal heritage because I could be any of your distant cousins.

Offense, war, murder, violence, torture and genocide are highly offensive to me.

And he who forgets history is doomed to repeat it.

We're well on the way of repeating Hitler's Germany right as we speak.



posted on Feb, 7 2012 @ 07:48 PM
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Hope the money goes towards huan rights? Rights to what? Mcdonalds? Life?

Who administers these rights?

Why don't you want it to go towards the owners university education or a trip around the world?



posted on Feb, 7 2012 @ 07:49 PM
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To make profit off of something directly connected to some of the worst atrocities in the world just seems wrong to me


Maybe to you, but there may be some hard core Hasidic dude out there willing to buy it so he can melt all of it down and then forge into a Super Duper Star of David or even a Menorah to be given to that one relative that 'never got it'...





Point is - more can be done with this than to drop it in a museum and give it more fanfare than it deserves...



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posted on Feb, 7 2012 @ 07:50 PM
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The way I see it, people with lots of money already are the ones who usually (can afford to) donate things to a museum. The linked article states an estimated fetching price of 2000-4000 GBP (approx 3000-6000 dollars). I'm sure that is not a lot of money to a museum that is genuinely interested in preserving this distasteful piece of history.

The sale may raise a few eyebrows but I don't see anything inherently evil in it. Just my 2 cents. I would guess the anonymous owner is not a Rockefeller or a Rothschild. According to Wikipedia the Nazi in question lived a free life after escaping twice from prison. His death (1994) and identity were only discovered 3 or 4 years after the fact. Perhaps a more pressing question would be how did the present owner come into possession of them.

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posted on Feb, 7 2012 @ 07:54 PM
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Jewish, Gypsies, the handicapped, the elderly, children...............we won't even get into how many Russians died that's another subject.

Oh and what about Hiroshima and Nagasaki, Vietnam, and all the other places that are

War is stupid - it's one fracking live chess game with the 1% that play off the other 99%, moving them around like pawns.

War is brought about by manipulating fear, power hungry, greed and stupidity.

If Homo sapien is ever going to reach being a class 1 civilization we had better grow up and fast.



posted on Feb, 7 2012 @ 07:55 PM
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I would not be surprised if this was forced to be donated to some form of Jewish holocaust fund or war museum.

Not that i would ever want to own a torture kit such as this, but if i wanted to, it is my own right to own a piece of wood and steel that are connected to each other. I mean come on.



posted on Feb, 7 2012 @ 07:59 PM
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wow, i dont know whether to be sickened or amazed, i bet that will fetch quite a sack full of money.




If Homo sapien is ever going to reach being a class 1 civilization we had better grow up and fast.


yeah, like thats ever going to happen



posted on Feb, 7 2012 @ 07:59 PM
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Sick people like to surround themselves with sick things.
Many years ago I read in a national newspaper that Napaleon's penis was auctioned - there was a photo of it in a box - It didn't look in very good health - what is that about?
ps it was a rather small box
tonyperrottet.com...


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posted on Feb, 7 2012 @ 08:01 PM
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To make profit off of something directly connected to some of the worst atrocities in the world just seems wrong to me.

Meanwhile many Jewish people continue to profit off some of the worst atrocities in the world TODAY. But no one seems to care about that??



posted on Feb, 7 2012 @ 08:09 PM
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Originally posted by ofhumandescent
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Jewish, Gypsies, the handicapped, the elderly, children...............we won't even get into how many Russians died that's another subject.

Oh and what about Hiroshima and Nagasaki, Vietnam, and all the other places that are

War is stupid - it's one fracking live chess game with the 1% that play off the other 99%, moving them around like pawns.

War is brought about by manipulating fear, power hungry, greed and stupidity.

If Homo sapien is ever going to reach being a class 1 civilization we had better grow up and fast.



Yep i agree but the point i was making is the fact that when WWII is mentioned jews exclusivly get mentioned even tho 6 millon non-jews or more where killed at the same time in europe. That does not really show sincere respect for all victims does it.

What do we learn here in school ever since our very first history lesson ?
jews died

A total disregard for the other man, woman and children that got gassed ,shot ,hung etc in the numbers that at least equal that of the jews. It is offensive.






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posted on Feb, 7 2012 @ 08:14 PM
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Yes it is odd but not that odd that Hitler was a keen fan of Rockerfeller's Eugenics
Rothschild and Rockerfellar of course did what they usually do and fund both sides of the war
Hitler was of course an embarrasment to them - He was too obvious


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