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Good for California. Now come on U.S. Supreme Court. Do the right thing!
Prop. 8 Shot Down In California, page 1
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Topic started on 7-2-2012 @ 01:53 PM by Hardstepah
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hahahaha take that religious cults. your ridiculous bigotry should never be made law.
The United States Constitution. Don't like what it allows? GTFO
The 9th Circuit Court in California struck down as unconstitutional the state's voter-passed ban on gay marriage Tuesday, ruling 2-1 that it violates the rights of gay Californians.
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hahahaha take that religious cults. your ridiculous bigotry should never be made law.
The United States Constitution. Don't like what it allows? GTFO
reply posted on 7-2-2012 @ 01:59 PM by PageAlaCearl
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Another instance of the popular vote doesn't mean s***. People voted and here they are overturning what people voted into law. I don't have an opinion on gay marriages, I don't believe in it as it's not possible to continue the human race if people were gay, the reproductive system wasn't made for homosexuality but to each there own. The real problem here is people voted and they're changing what people voted for. BS
Another instance of the popular vote doesn't mean s***. People voted and here they are overturning what people voted into law. I don't have an opinion on gay marriages, I don't believe in it as it's not possible to continue the human race if people were gay, the reproductive system wasn't made for homosexuality but to each there own. The real problem here is people voted and they're changing what people voted for. BS
reply posted on 7-2-2012 @ 02:05 PM by DarkKnight76
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So if people voted that all right-handed citizens were not allowed to, say, vote, you'd be ok with that too?
So if people voted that all right-handed citizens were not allowed to, say, vote, you'd be ok with that too?
reply posted on 7-2-2012 @ 02:05 PM by FugitiveSoul
Originally posted by PageAlaCearl
reply to post by Hardstepah
Another instance of the popular vote doesn't mean s***. People voted and here they are overturning what people voted into law. I don't have an opinion on gay marriages, I don't believe in it as it's not possible to continue the human race if people were gay, the reproductive system wasn't made for homosexuality but to each there own. The real problem here is people voted and they're changing what people voted for. BS
I'm glad people aren't reproducing. With 7 billion people on the planet, why would we want to increase the population. We're not exactly in short supply.
Something else; there's a serious orphan population in this country, and these guys and gals help in reducing this number since they sometimes do want children, but can't create any of their own.
Some see it as against nature, but I see it as "nature found a way."
Not adding to over population? Check.
Bringing loving homes to the existing, yet forgotten children of the world? Check.
They're 2 for 2 in the positive contribution category in my book.
Since most of the vote was cast for religious reasons, which are supposed to be kept segregated from political matters, I'd say the initial entertaining of the law was illegal to begin with. This is a government matter, not a civil one, since people's constitutional rights are at stake.
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reply posted on 7-2-2012 @ 02:07 PM by tothetenthpower
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You misunderstand how the United States is supposed to work.
It's not a democracy, democracy is crap. The US is a republic, ruled by law. The people CANNOT pass a law that is unconstitutional, that's what the courts are for.
It's to protect the minority from the majority.
In this case, Gay marriage is a lawful, and legal issue, not one of social importance which requires a popular vote. It impacts people's civil rights. Which is why it's an issue for the court, not the people.
~Tenth
You misunderstand how the United States is supposed to work.
It's not a democracy, democracy is crap. The US is a republic, ruled by law. The people CANNOT pass a law that is unconstitutional, that's what the courts are for.
It's to protect the minority from the majority.
In this case, Gay marriage is a lawful, and legal issue, not one of social importance which requires a popular vote. It impacts people's civil rights. Which is why it's an issue for the court, not the people.
~Tenth
reply posted on 7-2-2012 @ 02:10 PM by thisguyrighthere
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The courts are there to keep mob rule democracy from creating second, third or fourth class citizens by virtue of their numbers.
To hold up a majority vote like its a good thing is foolish. The majority is foolish.
Unfortunately the courts themselves can and do fall victim to popular opinion or refuse to make controversial rulings that go against the political tide.
It's a crappy balance in a crappy system that this time at least worked to keep the mob from voting blacks back to the plantation so to speak.
The courts are there to keep mob rule democracy from creating second, third or fourth class citizens by virtue of their numbers.
To hold up a majority vote like its a good thing is foolish. The majority is foolish.
Unfortunately the courts themselves can and do fall victim to popular opinion or refuse to make controversial rulings that go against the political tide.
It's a crappy balance in a crappy system that this time at least worked to keep the mob from voting blacks back to the plantation so to speak.
reply posted on 7-2-2012 @ 02:18 PM by PageAlaCearl
Originally posted by DarkKnight76
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So if people voted that all right-handed citizens were not allowed to, say, vote, you'd be ok with that too?
I don't care about the issue with gay marriage but to change what people voted for is not democracy in a free state. So your saying you'd rather not be involved, not vote and let the powers that be make the decisions for you?
reply posted on 7-2-2012 @ 02:28 PM by tothetenthpower
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That doesn't work.
Democracy in purest form does not work, it never has and it never will.
Show me an example of when true democracy worked out for both the majority and the minority.
As for your belief about homosexuality, it's just a belief and holds no weight in an argument regarding lawful civil rights.
~Tenth
That doesn't work.
Democracy in purest form does not work, it never has and it never will.
Show me an example of when true democracy worked out for both the majority and the minority.
As for your belief about homosexuality, it's just a belief and holds no weight in an argument regarding lawful civil rights.
~Tenth
reply posted on 7-2-2012 @ 02:40 PM by PageAlaCearl
Originally posted by tothetenthpower
reply to post by PageAlaCearl
As for your belief about homosexuality, it's just a belief and holds no weight in an argument regarding lawful civil rights.
No weight? You have a way to make babies with two dudes? You don't think scientifically knowing all we do about the reproductive system that it wasn't designed for a man and a women to reproduce?
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