reply to post by NOTurTypical
Thanks for the vid...Chuck mentions seven early on and I thought I might paste this from the seal of God .. Oh and near the end he shows the
subtle difference from Mat.24 and Luk.21 ..the before these things and the after these things ...I miss the simplest of things and they are the true
golden nuggets we Christians need....peace
THE SEAL OF SEVEN.
The Bible warns us that the visible things of creation reveal the invisible Creator and that therefore we are without excuse if we ignore the evidence
of His Hand. Romans 1:19-20.
We feel sad about those who have not discerned the Hand of God in His Creation, but what of those who have not seen Him revealed in His Word?
Does the Bible in fact bear any seal whereby we can identify it?
Can the Bible be brought into the scope of Divine Workmanship?
Can it be shown that the Author of the seals in sevens, some of which we have examined, is also the Author of the Bible?
Look first on the surface of the Scriptures.
It has long been known, and appreciated, by those who have studied the Word, how the number seven has been used to convey a certain and specific
conclusion. It usually denotes God's fullness of purpose, or completion of a specific period.
The leper was told to wash seven times in the Jordan. If he had stopped at six he would not have been healed.
The children of Israel were commanded to march around Jericho seven times on the seventh day, (no doubt with the inhabitants laughing at them), but at
the seventh time the trumpet sounded, the earth shook, and they laughed no more.
There is NOTHING magical in the number itself. It is only the 'mark' of God's Hand in the particular incident. His Signature, and we find it
throughout the Scriptures, this seal of seven.
The Bible itself is in seven distinct divisions. Just look at the last book, Revelation, which is God's Book of climaxes, judgements, and
This is what we find.
Seven Spirits of God.
Seven candle sticks.
Forty two months, six sevens.
Three and a half days with two witnesses.
Seven thousand men killed by earthquake.
A Beast with seven heads.
This is just an example of sevens on the surface, all in Revelation.
Here also in Revelation is a somewhat hidden example of sevens, that is, one could pass over them many times and perhaps not notice seven connected
Revelation 5:12. Seven attributes of Christ.
Revelation 7:12. Sevenfold greeting to God by angels.
Revelation 5:14. Four beasts and four and twenty elders worship God.
The term 'blessed' is used exactly seven times, so also is the 'Book of Life'.
There are, in fact, over fifty occurrences of seven in Revelation alone.
Now. In respect to the watermark or seal beneath the surface.
An absolutely staggering discovery, concerning the Hebrew and Greek texts, was made by several independent students of God's Word, a discovery that
God has permitted to be disclosed as a challenge to this unbelieving age and one which, in itself, settles for Time and Eternity.
A fact the believer already knows.
A fact which underlines the Divine authority of the Bible.
A challenge, before which all the liberal and modernistic theories of men crumble like a sand castle does before the incoming tide of the sea.
A sweeping statement but nevertheless true.
It was discovered that hidden, as it were beneath the surface of these texts, was a Seal, a Sign, God's definite seal on His Word.
Other patterns are present also, but the seal of seven is the most prominent in these intricate patterns, and more easily discerned than those, many
It stamps the Bible as the indisputable Word of God.
Ivan Panin, who devoted much of his life to investigating and publishing these things, publicly invited the finest brains, by means of a challenge
through the press, to prove that his facts were not facts, and gave three examples of these numerics.
No one was able to refute those facts.
He also challenged a Bible critic to produce a similar pattern of sevens as that found in the genealogy of Christ back to Abraham wherein the proper
names investigated were named thousands of years before-hand and could not be manipulated in any way to aid the theory.
Of course patterns of various kind have been found in other writings, but these are spasmodic in their occurrence, and generally require
re-arrangement of the original statement, or phrase before a pattern can be discerned, and of course they are not consistent throughout the text which
On the contrary the pattern and design running through the Hebrew and Greek texts are consistent, and uniform, throughout all the various books in
both the Old and the New Testament, and when it is realised that the Bible is the collection of writings by some forty writers, men from all walks of
life, over a long period of time, and in two different languages, the whole fitting together as harmonious whole, any honest seeker after truth must
concede that a far greater Mind than man's is here', for who but a Supreme Being, knowing the end from the beginning, could weave such a design into
the writing of men when the name of places, and persons, of genealogies and events were settled long before the men writing them were even born.
The genealogy of our Lord which we will examine shortly, is a case in point.
All through the ages of course there have been those who have been aware of the use of number in Scripture and whilst we will examine that aspect
Just now I would like to spend some time examining these numeric designs found beneath the surface of the original texts of the Hebrew and Greek
Over and over again, vital statements are sealed by a numeric design exactly fitted within the statement itself.
Coincidence can be ruled right out, and the only logical conclusion, attested to by men of Science, and seekers after the truth, is that here indeed
is the very Seal of God.
Sir Ambrose Fleming. D.Sc. F.R.S. that great scientist. The inventor of the thermionic valve which made wireless possible, once, as President of the
Victoria Institute of Science, opened its session with a paper entitled, 'Number in Nature and the Bible,' indicating a common origin in a Supreme
Intelligence. His object was to show that this 'common pattern' pervades the Bible, just as it does Creation, yet is found in no other literature in
this consistent and interwoven way.* * * * * * * * * *
At this point Mr. Payne introduced Iva Panin whose studies in the significance of Numerics structure in Scripture reveal an intricate design there
which could only have put there by a supernatural hand, the Hand of God.
The study can be fascinating, and, I simply ask the reader to take note of the phenomena, contemplate and enjoy the wonder of it, and, encouraged by
this marvellous seal, immerse yourself in the Word of God with added enthusiasm.* * * * * * * * * *
Then Mr. Payne wrote. I might add that Panania's work has been investigated by the Nobble Research Foundation of Los Angeles, U.S.A. and regarding
his statement that the Bible could not possibly have been written except by inspiration of God Himself and their verdict is as follows. 'So far as
our investigation has proceeded, we find the evidence overwhelmingly in favour of such a statement.'
Remember you are not reading fiction, but deep hidden truths, revealed, not to supplant our faith, but to strengthen it.
Our spiritual strength and our spiritual growth, comes from understanding the finished Work of God in Christ, revealed to us in His Word.
This Seal of God is only of true value when we see it as God's signature upon the Scriptures and we LOOK TO THEM ALONE for our guidance led by the
Holy Spirit of God.
Neither Mr. Payne nor I hold Numerics in ANY regard as a STUDY in itself and, certainly NOT as anything to 'lean on' or trust for our Christian walk
because they are only fallible numbers.
Mr.Payne saw the design Ivan. Panin and others had discovered in Scripture, as a 'Seal' of God's Hand there, to encourage us to return to the Word
of God with even more enthusiasm, an enthusiasm we had both found also, when the beauty and design in flowers had first drawn us beyond their beauty
to see the great Architect of the Universe.
King David expressed much the same when he wrote. 'The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handiwork. Day unto day
uttereth speech, and night unto night sheweth knowledge. There is no speech nor language, where their voice is not heard. Their line is gone out
through all the earth, and their words to the end of the world.' Psalm 19:1-4.
It is the same plea Paul gives to the Christians in Rome. 'For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being
understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse.' Romans 1:20.
The New Testament begins with the genealogy of Christ back to Abraham. Matthew 1:1-17.
It is interesting to note that the genealogy itself is divided into three sets of 14.
Abraham to David.
David to Babylon.
Babylon to Christ.
It has two natural sections. Matthew 1 to the captivity and from Matthew 1:12-17 to the Birth of Christ.
Both sections have numeric phenomena but I am dealing with the first section here and the examination is of the Greek text of this section in which
the New Testament is written.
The numerics are taken from Panin's work.
The vocabulary to the first section of this genealogy has 49 words, and 49 is made up of 7-7's, and it has two separate numeric features, it is a
multiple of 7, and the sum of its factors is 14, 2-7's. Of these 49 words, 28 or 4-7's, begin with a vowel, and the remaining 21, 3-7's with a
Thus the whole of the words of the vocabulary are divided into words beginning, and ending, with a vowel, or a consonant, not at random but by
Here then we have four features of seven.
These words have 266 letters, again a multiple of 7, 38-7's, and that is not all. The sum of the figures is 14, 2-7's, and the sum of the factors,
2+19+7 is again a multiple of 7, namely, 28, or 4-7's, so we have three more features of 7.
Now remember we said the 49 words of the vocabulary, are divided between vowel words and consonant words, by sevens. This is remarkable in itself but,
the 266 letters follow exactly the same plan, that is, 140 of them, 20-7's, are vowels, and 126, or 18-7's are consonants!
There is only one chance in a million that these things could have happened accidentally, and if that were all one could say would be perhaps, 'Well
a strange thing may happen once in a while, even though the chances are one in a million.' But it so happens that of those 49 words, seven occur in
more than one form.
Forty two. 6-7's in one form only.
Fourteen. 2-7's occur once.
Thirty five. 5-7's more than once.
Of the forty two nouns, thirty five. 5-7's are proper names and the other seven are not, and the number of times these proper names occur is exactly
The male names occur, in all, 56 times 8-7's and the three female names have letters in them totalling 14. 2-7's.
Only one city is mentioned. Babylon, and it contains seven Greek letters. This not only presents a further set of divisions of seven, but diminishes
the chances of coincidence to about six hundred billions to one, according to the law of chance.
This scheme alone shows that some mathematical artist was behind the wording of this genealogy, and if you give the matter careful thought you will
realise that every word, even every letter, would have to be watched for this plan, or sign of seven, to appear with such marvellous persistence, to
say nothing of the fact that the proper names were fixed before the genealogy were even begun and could not be altered.
And this is only one aspect. Many other features of seven are hidden in this genealogy which fit together with those shown.
Having now introduced the subject let me ask you, has your mind suggested to you that this might possibly be coincidence?
That was my first reaction.
However when I read more about the law of chance or averages, I at once realised the foolishness of such a suggestion and so, for the benefit of my
readers, let me just give a simple illustration of the law of chance.
Suppose you have ten cents marked 1 to 10.
Place in a bag and shake them.
What now is your chance of drawing number 1?
The answer is quite obvious. 1 chance in 10.
In other words, over a number of repeated draws, with the drawn cent replaced each time, you would ON AVERAGE succeed once in every 10 draws.
What then is your chance of drawing 1 and 2 in that order at successive draws, with the number 1 cent replaced before the next draw?
Actually it is only 1 in 100.
That is to say, from those ten cents you can achieve a 100 different combinations at two draws.
That is:-- 1-2, 1-3, 1-4, to 1-10, then 2-3, 2-4, and so on.
This gives 45 combinations.
When this is exhausted you can have these in reverse order. 10-9, 10-8, 10-7, and so on right back to 2-1.
This gives a further 45 combinations.
Also because cents have been replaced you can have 1-1, 2-2, 3-3, to 10-10, giving a further ten combinations.
Making in all a 100 different combinations.
Thus you will see, because there could be 100 different draws, the chance of achieving the combination 1-2, is 1 in 100.
But what would the chance be for 1 . . . 2 . . . 3, in that order?
It is now reduced to 1 in 1000.
Now this is a law, and carries on in that ratio indefinitely.
But if it were not for the fact that it is a law, I, for one, could never believe that to draw those ten cents in sequence from 1 to 10 your chance is
reduced to the unbelievable figure of one chance in ten thousand millions! 1 in 10,000,000,000.
Thus, at a glance, we can realise the impossibility of these designs in the Scripture being mere chance, for they are up against this same law.
This brings us a little deeper by including numeric values.
It must be understood that in the Greek and Hebrew, every letter has a numeric value, so it follows that every word and sentence must also have a
numeric value, being simply the sum total of each letter value.
Now I have chosen a vital portion, being the account of the birth of Jesus. Bear in mind, Jesus is the foundation of the whole Christian faith, and so
I shall take, all through, examples which have a direct connection with Him beginning with the account of His birth in Matthew 1:18-25.
The number of Greek words is exactly 161
The numeric value of these is exactly 93 394
The number of vocabulary words is exactly 77
The numeric value of these is 51,247
Here we have a perfect, double, interlocked design covering every word and letter, which must remain constant, whilst the following designs are woven
into it, and not a single letter can be altered.
There are six Greek words which are found nowhere else in Matthew.
Their numeric value is exactly 5,005
These six Greek words have exactly 56 letters
Now the first two verses, a natural division, have exactly 42 words
The last verse, another natural division, has exactly, 14 words
3-7's of 7's
Again the 161 words occur in 105 forms
The numeric value of these forms is exactly 65,429
In these 105 forms there are exactly 35 verbs
There are also exactly 7 Proper Names
The number of letters in these names is exactly 42
The word 'Emmanuel' is used here but nowhere else in the N.T.
Its numeric value is 644
The sum of its figures is 14
The number of forms exclusive to this passage is 14
Their numeric value is exactly 8,715
Now we have another remarkable occurrence.
The angel speaks to Joseph, and although his words form another pattern of their own, they fit exactly into the whole!
In speaking to Joseph the angel uses, of the 77 vocabulary words, exactly 28
The numeric value of all the angel's words is exactly 21,042
The angel uses exactly 35 forms
These 35 forms have exactly 168 letters
The numeric value of these letters is exactly 19,397
Now the angel, in using only 28 of the vocabulary words leaves exactly 49
In using exactly 35 forms he leaves exactly 70
The sum of the figures 70 is 7 and, its factors, 7 + 2 + 5 is 14
This by no means exhausts the passage but enough has been shown here to show us that the design in it is not there by chance.
Surely, anyone after thought, must acknowledge that only Divine Wisdom could inspire the words of such a passage so that they would show such an
interlocking system of sevens when completed.
This record of the birth of Christ, in 161 Greek words, occupies about one-third of one page in the Bible and the challenge from Panin, directed to
those of his day, was for them to produce a similar passage of 161 words in three years. According to the law of chances, chance in this passage which
we have briefly examined stands at one in 200 or so quintillion, a number consisting of 21 Figures.
Panin stated. 'There is not a single paragraph in this Gospel that is not constructed in the same way as those already shown. It would have taken
Matthew over one thousand years to have constructed the Gospel on these lines, even assuming it to have been possible for him to do so, which of
course, it was not, because of the many circumstances over which he had no control.'
But is it possible that Matthew had some supernatural power?
Well, he certainly was directed by a supernatural power as is plainly stated in 2 Timothy 3:16-17. 'All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and
is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: that the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished
unto all good works.'
But! If we credit Matthew with this power, we must also credit Mark, Luke, John, James, Peter, Jude and Paul with the same power, for the records of
each reveal the same supernatural phenomena.
Every paragraph, every sentence, can be shown definitely to be constructed in the same marvellous way, each demonstrating a work estimated to take a
Humanly speaking this is simply impossible.
There is but one explanation, and we have read it plainly in 2 Timothy 3:16 and repeated for us in 2 Peter 1:20-21.
'No prophecy of the Scripture is of any private interpretation. For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man; but holy men of God spake
as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.'